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Samination
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 Posted - 2013/04/01 : 09:18:42
I thought Breeze hated the word Dubcore? Now he's using it everywhere on the fw site. Bloody hypocrite
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 09:30:13
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Originally posted by Samination:
I thought Breeze hated the word Dubcore? Now he's using it everywhere on the fw site. Bloody hypocrite
Guess he couldn't think of a better name by himself.
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 12:40:10
Birds of a feather do tend to flock together and this can't really be good news for us.
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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 13:23:22
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Birds of a feather do tend to flock together and this can't really be good news for us.
I don't see it that dramatically since gammer and styles will always stand out
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 15:57:54
With the exception of Essential Platinum, most of the labels people are talking about have released next to nothing over the last year or so anyway.
I can't see FutureWorld changing much. A lot of us on here make 95% of our purchases outside of these labels anyway. And I'm not saying that as a "We're all so fcuking cool we gave up on the larger labels ages ago", it's just fact. And half of it is down to the fact that hardly anything ever gets released. A flurry of HTIDs last year, some consistent Essential Platinums last summer. What else?
I guess just having one major album a year (Clubland X-Treme Hardcore) - there just doesn't seem to be a lot of material pending. Most years there has been a few other albums. A Styles album, an Hardcore Til Die etc. And that fuels releases on the major labels.
Not entirely sure where I was going with this. I'm sure there's a point in there somewhere. lol. I think I was trying to explain that people need to chill the fcuk out and this is not a big deal. Or, at least just wait and see what happens (RE announcements about other labels winding up [which I still personally think unlikely]).
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 16:47:36
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
With the exception of Essential Platinum, most of the labels people are talking about have released next to nothing over the last year or so anyway.
I can't see FutureWorld changing much. A lot of us on here make 95% of our purchases outside of these labels anyway. And I'm not saying that as a "We're all so fcuking cool we gave up on the larger labels ages ago", it's just fact. And half of it is down to the fact that hardly anything ever gets released. A flurry of HTIDs last year, some consistent Essential Platinums last summer. What else?
I guess just having one major album a year (Clubland X-Treme Hardcore) - there just doesn't seem to be a lot of material pending. Most years there has been a few other albums. A Styles album, an Hardcore Til Die etc. And that fuels releases on the major labels.
Not entirely sure where I was going with this. I'm sure there's a point in there somewhere. lol. I think I was trying to explain that people need to chill the fcuk out and this is not a big deal. Or, at least just wait and see what happens (RE announcements about other labels winding up [which I still personally think unlikely]).
Jamie Donovan everybody!
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 16:49:50
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 17:00:19
Good point (if there was one :P)
I find this waterfall release style really annoying. Store up tracks all year round, rinse them out live, put them on an annual album then drip-release them and still expect people to be excited about buying them.
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 17:14:26
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Good point (if there was one :P)
I find this waterfall release style really annoying. Store up tracks all year round, rinse them out live, put them on an annual album then drip-release them and still expect people to be excited about buying them.
Or following Hixxy's business model: NOT releasing the good ones.
Where is "Hixxy & UFO - Eternity has passed" for example :X
Curse you, now I have to listen to Bonkers 5 again! lol
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 17:23:46
Yeah, it's a fair point. I don't know whether it's planned like that, or whether it's simply that label-runners are just Dean Slack when it comes to sorting out digital release schedules. That certainly seems to be the case with Hixxy. I saw he posted on facebook the other day something like "Sorry I've been shit at keeping everyone up-to-date on facebook recently. Will try and get some more digital tracks released soon too".
Who knows. Maybe compared to the money the top guys get for DJing three times a weekend, the amount they get from digital releases is peanuts, and they, therefore, understandably, just don't feel especially rushed to do it?
An elongating factor is SoundCloud. You hear a track about eight years before you hear it at a rave, and then it'll get spanked for a year or so, and then it'll be on the Christmas album, and then it finally gets digitally released. It's great there's unreal access to your favourite producers' latest tunes, but it certainly does seem to be an age before you get to mix the tracks yourself.
Whilst it doesn't reduce the frustration levels, I guess you just have to consider that these are just guys that are Hardcore fans, DJs and producers - with lives of their own to sort out outside of Hardcore. They're not in swanky offices with loads of staff, or have meetings about sticking to targets and schedules (for releases). All the boring admin shit and scheduling is down to the individual producers/label-runners. They may well consider it a smidge tedious? And just eventually get around to it at some point in the future. That kind of approach?
No idea really. Just possibilities. lol.
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 17:38:00
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or whether it's simply that label-runners are just Dean Slack when it comes to sorting out digital release schedules.
Lol!
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Samination
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 17:40:08
Somehow "One label to rule them all" would be better. I don't think Breeze is forcing everyone to produce 'dubcore', But what does he intend to call the label? Future World? Somehow it fits, but I would still like it if the label is going to be divided. Either in making different Sublabels (like Future World Hardcore or Future World Gabber), or in the catalogue number (FW069G or FW065H)
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 17:45:30
Love you Jay! X
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 17:49:36
I find the concept of one label very odd. Why would that be the case. If people don't run their own labels it's because they don't want to. Anyone can do it, any time. No one has any control over these things. Anyone and everyone can freely promote and sell whatever they like.
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Posted - 2013/04/01 : 18:00:03
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I find the concept of one label very odd. Why would that be the case. If people don't run their own labels it's because they don't want to. Anyone can do it, any time. No one has any control over these things. Anyone and everyone can freely promote and sell whatever they like.
someone could finally force Hixxy to release his stuff on time? :)
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