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Samination
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  14:51:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
As Luna C predicted (in general, not with Hardcore specifically), with the music being readily available to everyone now, legally or not, the emphasis will shift to live performances as no exclusivity can come from mp3's etc. Something like that lol.



Yea, lets use the "technology is killing the music" arguement that the RIAA has been using since the early 2000's (that's 1900-1999), yet the keep on selling more and more?


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Elliott
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  14:58:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
also TID takes like 50-70% so they barely make anything even IF 100 copies are sold.....


****ing hell. Is that a standard kind of percentage for these stores, does anyone know? Because that seems extortionate.


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Lorenzo.Tweakn
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  15:04:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lorenzo.Tweakn's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
also TID takes like 50-70% so they barely make anything even IF 100 copies are sold.....


****ing hell. Is that a standard kind of percentage for these stores, does anyone know? Because that seems extortionate.



Beatport takes 50%. Itunes takes 30%. I've spoke to several label owners & producers about this. Starstruck refused to sell Australia With Force on TID because they wanted to take a ridiculous amount from sales. :x


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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  15:55:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
also TID takes like 50-70% so they barely make anything even IF 100 copies are sold.....



Thats absolutely scandalous if true. The artists are the ones who do all the work, tid do **** all. I'd refuse to sell my tunes on TID if I was an artist


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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  16:05:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Hellfury's homepage  Reply with quote
What about beatbucket?

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  16:21:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
also TID takes like 50-70% so they barely make anything even IF 100 copies are sold.....



Thats absolutely scandalous if true. The artists are the ones who do all the work, tid do **** all.



It is unacceptable yes but people don't have to use it. Not sure why they do if it is the case.


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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  18:09:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Brainchild's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
also TID takes like 50-70% so they barely make anything even IF 100 copies are sold.....



Thats absolutely scandalous if true. The artists are the ones who do all the work, tid do **** all.



It is unacceptable yes but people don't have to use it. Not sure why they do if it is the case.



I would imagine the only reason labels do use TID is because of how hugely popular it is with DJs purchasing the latest music. I don't know how many real alternatives there are, but I doubt there's a huge number for hardcore these days.


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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  18:17:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Hellfury's homepage  Reply with quote
TID, Junodownload, Beatport, Itunes, Beatbucket

i guess labels only upload their stuff to tid because they use all platforms anyway, to reach as many customers as possible


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Edited by - DJ Hellfury on 2013/04/23 18:18:34
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  18:20:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brainchild:
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo.Tweakn:
also TID takes like 50-70% so they barely make anything even IF 100 copies are sold.....



Thats absolutely scandalous if true. The artists are the ones who do all the work, tid do **** all.



It is unacceptable yes but people don't have to use it. Not sure why they do if it is the case.



I would imagine the only reason labels do use TID is because of how hugely popular it is with DJs purchasing the latest music. I don't know how many real alternatives there are, but I doubt there's a huge number for hardcore these days.


Could sell your own stuff on your own site for free. If it really mattered. And people knew who you are.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2013/04/23 18:21:46
Samination
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  18:42:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
iTunes the cheapest? somehow I don't believe that at all.

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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  18:47:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lorenzo.Tweakn's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
iTunes the cheapest? somehow I don't believe that at all.



they sell so much; that they can afford to charge the lowest


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DJ Hellfury
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Posted - 2013/04/23 :  19:05:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Hellfury's homepage  Reply with quote
itunes is the cheapest maybe but they have regionlock and thats why I can't buy most of J-Core on digital ways :X

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_Jay_
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Posted - 2013/04/24 :  12:42:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit _Jay_'s homepage  Reply with quote
Here's a question:

How many Hardcore tracks do you think are downloaded/purchased on TID on a single given day?


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Posted - 2013/04/24 :  13:15:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by _Jay_:
Here's a question:

How many Hardcore tracks do you think are downloaded/purchased on TID on a single given day?



Less than 50


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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2013/04/24 :  14:18:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by djDMS:
quote:
Originally posted by _Jay_:
Here's a question:

How many Hardcore tracks do you think are downloaded/purchased on TID on a single given day?



Less than 50



At the moment thats probably about right because most of the tunes out just now are distinctly average at best. Once the anthems start coming out that will probably increase considerably



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