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Smoogie
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Hell yeah!


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Hirschi
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Not that bad. Reminds me of the Hardcore tunes Charly Lownoise and Mental Theo did in their early days.

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nrg
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Posted - 2013/09/10 :  09:42:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit nrg's homepage
This is actually a joke track making fun of gabbers ("ravers") back in the day. Other popular examples of this are "Gabber Piet - Hakke en Zage" and to a lesser extent "De Mosselman - Mossels".

These tracks are (were?) generally frowned upon and cited as one of the main reasons for the commercialization and ultimate downfall of the Dutch hardcore scene around 1998.


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I can count to 100 in dutch and know enough words to get myself killed.

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ultraskool
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You know what Smoogie? i still listen to these type of tunes and I have them on my mobile phone. I didn't think you liked Gabber' style . I thought you were more the Oldskool Breakbeats type

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I thought you had a YouTube thread already.

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Warnman
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Posted - 2013/09/11 :  18:53:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Quicksilver:
I thought you had a YouTube thread already.



Well ignored!
But to be honest: I tried to search it, but I was unlucky.


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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2013/09/12 :  02:34:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage
What was Hakkuh?



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Warnman
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quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What was Hakkuh?



If I'm not incorrect, it's an alternative name of Hakke: one of the usual dancing styles for Gabber.


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Mental_Adam
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Posted - 2013/09/14 :  00:29:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mental_Adam's homepage
gah,

This is like going back to 2005/2006 again when i discovered all this hakkuhbar, gabber piet stuff,

gabberwifje klappus in handje

that one was terrible


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nrg
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Posted - 2013/09/17 :  08:03:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit nrg's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What was Hakkuh?



That's the way people (used to) dance to hardcore in The Netherlands.



It took a while to find a well lit video (note that this was at 7AM after most people had already been dancing for 10 hours):

Have a look at the people dancing at 7:45 and ENJOY the great music!


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Edited by - nrg on 2013/09/17 08:25:12
nrg
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And while we're on the topic, this is 8 years later. The original hardcore scene had died and this is what resurrected:

Notice how the dancing has changed to a more jumping and pogo style.






...and the music has turned to shit.


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Edited by - nrg on 2013/09/17 11:28:45
ultraskool
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Is it a a stereotype with 'bald skinny guys and Gabber"?? that's what i see in the clips. LOL!

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Originally posted by nrg:
quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What was Hakkuh?



That's the way people (used to) dance to hardcore in The Netherlands.



It took a while to find a well lit video (note that this was at 7AM after most people had already been dancing for 10 hours):
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quote:
Originally posted by ultraskool:
Is it a a stereotype with 'bald skinny guys and Gabber"?? that's what i see in the clips.



Gabber was a very popular youth culture in The Netherlands in the mid-90s. One of the defining characteristics of a gabber was a bald head. Some would even go so far to say that only guys that shaved their head were "true" gabbers. Other attributes included a track suit (Australian; the Cavello brand was often associated with posers that couldn't afford the more expensive Australian tracksuits) and Nike Air Max shoes.

As you can see in the last video posted above, after the resurgence of hardcore in 2003, the track suit was traded in for Lonsdale gear. I never really quite understood why that was, but when I asked the guys at the time they told me the Lonsdale logo would spell "NSDA" when it was covered by their bomber jacket. This was seen as a reference to the Nazi party NSDAP . Though I'm sure most guys weren't racist, they just went along with the new style.

The skinny look is easy: most gabbers used speed (amphetamine) -- and lots of it.


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Smoogie
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Posted - 2013/09/19 :  10:16:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ultraskool:
You know what Smoogie? i still listen to these type of tunes and I have them on my mobile phone. I didn't think you liked Gabber' style . I thought you were more the Oldskool Breakbeats type



I will always love Gabber over anything else but I think I have heard most of it now lol


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