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Hardcore Heaven Awards 2013 FINAL VOTING!

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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  10:15:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Alex BassJunkie:
Honestly don't know why Technoboy is on there, he's a Hardstyle DJ, might aswell chuck DeadMau5 and Skrillex on there too!

I noticed Breeze ain't on any DJ or Producer list, or the lifetime achievement list, maybe all the voters read the S3rl vs Breeze post haha!



hah! I'm sure it's more than that. He brought it upon himself, using more and more DnB in his tracks and mixes does turn away people. They don't consider it "real" hardcore, so they're not going to vote for him because of that.

Either way, he was never a groundbreaking DJ or producer all on his own in my opinion, but he sure loves to sound and like he is, or thinks he deserves to be treated like one. Dougal is almost on the same boat as him, but at least he seems to have a much better and friendlier personality than Breeze does.



Dougal not a groundbreaking dj or producer? Are you being serious? The man is a hardcore legend, basically invented the happy hardcore sound. Just because he doesn't produce tracks on his own doesn't make him
like breeze in any way. He clearly has a huge influence on every track he's accredited to and his sets are always worth listening to and always have been.


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TTE
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  11:49:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TTE's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Thumpa:
So happy to be on that list, both albums on there too, great!

If the freeform lot listened to me in the first place and agreed on one name to vote for there would be more actual freeform DJs on that list...what a shocker eh lads.



That's total nonsense. Look at it this way... If everyone who voted for 'someone else' had voted for either you or Douglas the results would have been exactly the same. In the first round, you want a decent spread of votes across a reasonable number artists to guarantee more freeform DJ's on the list. Co-ordination has reduced the spread giving fewer, not more choices.

You'll never get ten freeform DJ's nominated by encouraging people to vote for only a couple of artists, you'll get only a couple represented, which is essentially exactly what you have got now.

It's really not all doom and gloom though, you and Douglas have a greater chance of picking up votes from the 'freeform lot' (who might not have picked you as first choice) than ever before, because your co-ordinated vote campaign has given us fewer choices, we stand a better chance of a freeform artist winning it.

So rather than complaining that the 'freeform lot' have created this problem, I think you should be very pleased with how your campaign is going.



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Edited by - TTE on 2013/11/11 11:50:00
Rodz90
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  12:17:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Rodz90's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by TTE:
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Originally posted by Thumpa:
So happy to be on that list, both albums on there too, great!

If the freeform lot listened to me in the first place and agreed on one name to vote for there would be more actual freeform DJs on that list...what a shocker eh lads.



That's total nonsense. Look at it this way... If everyone who voted for 'someone else' had voted for either you or Douglas the results would have been exactly the same. In the first round, you want a decent spread of votes across a reasonable number artists to guarantee more freeform DJ's on the list. Co-ordination has reduced the spread giving fewer, not more choices.

You'll never get ten freeform DJ's nominated by encouraging people to vote for only a couple of artists, you'll get only a couple represented, which is essentially exactly what you have got now.

It's really not all doom and gloom though, you and Douglas have a greater chance of picking up votes from the 'freeform lot' (who might not have picked you as first choice) than ever before, because your co-ordinated vote campaign has given us fewer choices, we stand a better chance of a freeform artist winning it.

So rather than complaining that the 'freeform lot' have created this problem, I think you should be very pleased with how your campaign is going.





This man speaks sense!


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TTE
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  12:31:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TTE's homepage  Reply with quote
I like how you can replace 'freeform lot' with 'wankers' and the tone remains the same. Haha



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Edited by - TTE on 2013/11/11 12:32:55
Darts
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  14:03:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Darts's homepage  Reply with quote
From the dealings I've had with Dougal he's always been a proper gent and you can tell he's still got a lot of passion for the music, I've got a lot of respect for him

Super big thanks to everyone who voted Stomp in for both Best Breakthrough Event and Best Club / Club Night categories - what with this and our fantastic event on Friday I feel like I'm walking on air today


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Darts
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  14:17:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Darts's homepage  Reply with quote
Also well done to all the other nominees

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Warnman
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  21:33:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
I don't want to sound disrespectful, but after reading the entire thread and calling up my memories from the past years, I came to the conclusion that this award is a complete farce and no winner should be feeled honoured at all. It's like receiving the Nobel Peace Price since they started to hand it over to people who only produced hot air or are war criminals like Arafat and Obama.
Dave, when I heard the nomination of STOMP I felt so joyfully especially for you, because you seem to invest so much hard work, love and passion to it and honestly deserve to win. I also felt happy for Sc@r's last year's victory, but finally the feeling in me grows that this price isn't worth any shit and I wouldn't mind if these complete farce would die out.
Your event is wonderful, because you have a talent to find the right locations, book the right DJs, attract the right crowd and combine all single factors to receive a great rave atmosphere soup. You totally should be proud of yourself! If all your events are as lovely as it has been last Friday than you've already won an even more important award - the heart of us ravers and a growing amount of friendships - including mine.


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  21:59:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Warnman:
It's like receiving the Nobel Peace Price since they started to hand it over to people who only produced hot air or are war criminals like Arafat and Obama.




Says the German whose country was responsible for 2 world wars and millions upon millions of deaths.


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Darts
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  22:12:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Darts's homepage  Reply with quote
Countries and nationalities are all just man made figments of the imagination anyway.

Thanks Warnman, you too mate


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Warnman
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  22:13:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Warnman:
It's like receiving the Nobel Peace Price since they started to hand it over to people who only produced hot air or are war criminals like Arafat and Obama.




Says the German whose country was responsible for 2 world wars and millions upon millions of deaths.


Well, after noticing today's nominating standards for the Nobel Peace Price Adolf Hitler should deserve a win as well, because he was the first one after Napoleon who tried to unite Europe.
And if you'd would carefully followed history lessons you might have noticed that Germany didn't started the 1st World War and the 2nd one was a result of victor's justice after the first one especially made by the American becoming world's police policy.
And to finally stop this ridicolous discussion at all I was born in 1984, my parents were born in 1950, my grandparents were teenagers when Hitler came in charge, My great-grandparents were teenagers during world war 1. It's time to blame others!


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  22:20:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Warnman:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Warnman:
It's like receiving the Nobel Peace Price since they started to hand it over to people who only produced hot air or are war criminals like Arafat and Obama.




Says the German whose country was responsible for 2 world wars and millions upon millions of deaths.


Well, after noticing today's nominating standards for the Nobel Peace Price Adolf Hitler should deserve a win as well, because he was the first one after Napoleon who tried to unite Europe.
And if you'd would carefully followed history lessons you might have noticed that Germany didn't started the 1st World War and the 2nd one was a result of victor's justice after the first one especially made by the American becoming world's police policy.
And to finally stop this ridicolous discussion at all I was born in 1984, my parents were born in 1950, my grandparents were teenagers when Hitler came in charge, My great-grandparents were teenagers during world war 1. It's time to blame others!



Well then you should learn not to make ridiculous statements about Obama being called a war criminal considering that both the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions happened years before his presidency, and there were already deadlines to pull out of Iraq planned out before he was inaugurated into office.

And he wasn't voted for the Nobel Peace Prize due to his actions during his presidency, because he was only president of the US for less than 9 months and he didn't really do much. His win was more of a symbolic gesture and represented the potential he could have brought to foreign relations. Sadly, none of that has come to fruition seeing as how he has to battle with our stupidly republican-controlled house of representatives that make it difficult to compromise on anything.


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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  22:30:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
By the way: how many civilians have been killed after 2nd world war by Americans getting simply called painfully mistakes? Korea, Vietnam, Latin America, Afghanistan (in two wars), Iraq (and I'm not even talking about the war crimes that had were brought to cities like Dresden back in 1944) any many more to come! Even Hitler wouldn't have been able to destroy so many lives in such a short time. USA = oldest democracy? I'm laughing about this shit! You're completly living in the world's oldest existing military dictatorship and still feel proud of it.

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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  22:34:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
Well then you should learn not to make ridiculous statements about Obama being called a war criminal considering that both the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions happened years before his presidency, and there were already deadlines to pull out of Iraq planned out before he was inaugurated into office.

And he wasn't voted for the Nobel Peace Prize due to his actions during his presidency, because he was only president of the US for less than 9 months and he didn't really do much. His win was more of a symbolic gesture and represented the potential he could have brought to foreign relations. Sadly, none of that has come to fruition seeing as how he has to battle with our stupidly republican-controlled house of representatives that make it difficult to compromise on anything.



I havn't called him a war criminal, although he'd deserves this title after his election. I was more refeing to producing hot air when I thought of him and he hasn't disappointed me at all.


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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  22:35:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Warnman:
It's like receiving the Nobel Peace Price since they started to hand it over to people who only produced hot air or are war criminals like Arafat and Obama.




Says the German whose country was responsible for 2 world wars and millions upon millions of deaths.





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Posted - 2013/11/11 :  22:40:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TTE's homepage  Reply with quote
john cleese > everyone else



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