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Mental_Adam Advanced Member
United Kingdom
845 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2013/12/05 : 01:47:40
I know this is probably a daft question,
I've recently been playing alot of old video games, i was mainly curious of the ridge racer soundtracks as they have some barmy sounding rave/happy style tracks
I know the influence must've come from the west when doing alot of the music, but during the 1992-1996 days
did japan have like a underground rave scene? or some interesting beats/bass/rave kinda stuff what not many would know of?
anyone here maybe point me in some directions
I thought this very nice (i love the original) but this version 2 gives more of one of them rave tracks what would be a b-side on a prodigy single or something on that lines
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Alert moderator Edited by - Mental_Adam on 2013/12/05 02:08:06
Posted - 2013/12/05 : 02:23:56
In that time frame, short answer no...
but
In 1992ish there was a club called Juliana's they played what you might call oldskool rave before they closed down.
in 95 / 96 a record store in Tokyo called Q-records with DJ Evil and Uraken working there opened, the concept of this store was to push happy hardcore and jungle in Japan, the happycore rave scene started around this time. Shortly there after DJ Horn started LPU in Osaka... both stores have closed down. About a year later Guhroovy started, it is still around today.
Q-records still has around 50,000 vinyl white labels brand new in boxes, I tried to make a deal to sell them in 2004 but they wanted like 15 dollars wholesale for them and vinyl, it was too expensive. So I passed on it.
Since most of these records are white labels, actually nearly all of them, I suspect the then distributor Alphamagic used to press these secretly and sell them to Japan without the label knowing about it, I don't have proof and just my opinion, but over 600 copies (per release) white label seems quite alot for a white label press.
Hard2Get Advanced Member
United Kingdom
12,837 posts Joined: Jun, 2001
Posted - 2013/12/05 : 06:09:09
Especially since they probably have no intention of selling them.
quote:I suspect the then distributor Alphamagic used to press these secretly and sell them to Japan without the label knowing about it, I don't have proof and just my opinion,
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,239 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2013/12/05 : 09:11:07
This kind of Rave existed all over the world mostly because of the demo scene tbh.
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Captain Triceps Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,211 posts Joined: Dec, 2011
Posted - 2013/12/05 : 14:43:58
I used to play my Ridge Racer Revolution cd in my cd player all the time, just before I actually got into happy hardcore. Class stuff!
ultraskool Advanced Member
Australia
669 posts Joined: May, 2002
Posted - 2013/12/05 : 19:33:01
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
Sounds a bit like Happy Hardcore to me but I don't know much about the Jcore scene
You need to get educated on J-core Smoogie! but this is a good topic and Silver my friend, you are probably one of the only Dj's with good inside information on how the J-core HHC
all started. Was there a label called Dynasty ? and how's Dj Shimamura doing?
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,239 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2013/12/05 : 19:35:47
quote:Originally posted by ultraskool:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
Sounds a bit like Happy Hardcore to me but I don't know much about the Jcore scene
You need to get educated on J-core Smoogie! but this is a good topic and Silver my friend, you are probably one of the only Dj's with good inside information on how the J-core HHC
all started. Was there a label called Dynasty ? and how's Dj Shimamura doing?
Silver or JAKAZiD if you ask me. Since Silver has lived and worked in Japan for over 10 years, it's not wonder he knows it :P
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quote:Originally posted by ultraskool:
You need to get educated on J-core Smoogie! but this is a good topic and Silver my friend, you are probably one of the only Dj's with good inside information on how the J-core HHC
all started. Was there a label called Dynasty ? and how's Dj Shimamura doing?
J-core sounds like Makina (spanish hardcore) to me, but have evolved more now. Dynasty is still around, Shimamura is doing well. I'm still producing music for Konami games and now Capcom.
Warnman Advanced Member
Germany
2,677 posts Joined: Jun, 2010
Posted - 2013/12/06 : 18:56:44
I only know that in 1997 some of the Eurodance groups released their newer tracks in Japan, because sales volume was bigger than on the collapsed European market. E-Rotic's last releases where published in Japan only, because one of their albums developed a huge flop over here.
I don't know if there have been Eurodance raves in Japan, but Silver or someone else might be able to tell us more about it.
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Mental_Adam Advanced Member
United Kingdom
845 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2013/12/06 : 23:29:00
quote:Originally posted by silver:
quote:Originally posted by ultraskool:
You need to get educated on J-core Smoogie! but this is a good topic and Silver my friend, you are probably one of the only Dj's with good inside information on how the J-core HHC
all started. Was there a label called Dynasty ? and how's Dj Shimamura doing?
J-core sounds like Makina (spanish hardcore) to me, but have evolved more now. Dynasty is still around, Shimamura is doing well. I'm still producing music for Konami games and now Capcom.
Now that's pretty sweet, I love any video game music from the early to mid 1990s like i've stated with my post of the ridge racer revolution song video.
Even the sega megadrive gaming music, It's just that influence of alot of rave music which they gave a spin to with their video game soundtracks.
Even on the Tekken PS1 game, there is a track which i'll post, and you can obviously hear a track they've used from early rave song
Now, if you listen to this track from 0:50 (TELL ME WHAT THAT SONG IS BECAUSE I FORGOT)
Mental_Adam Advanced Member
United Kingdom
845 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2013/12/06 : 23:33:25
quote:Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
quote:Originally posted by silver:
quote:Originally posted by ultraskool:
You need to get educated on J-core Smoogie! but this is a good topic and Silver my friend, you are probably one of the only Dj's with good inside information on how the J-core HHC
all started. Was there a label called Dynasty ? and how's Dj Shimamura doing?
J-core sounds like Makina (spanish hardcore) to me, but have evolved more now. Dynasty is still around, Shimamura is doing well. I'm still producing music for Konami games and now Capcom.
Now that's pretty sweet, I love any video game music from the early to mid 1990s like i've stated with my post of the ridge racer revolution song video.
Even the sega megadrive gaming music, It's just that influence of alot of rave music which they gave a spin to with their video game soundtracks.
Even on the Tekken PS1 game, there is a track which i'll post, and you can obviously hear a track they've used from early rave song
Now, if you listen to this track from 0:50 (You can hear Cubic 22 - Night in motion)
quote:Originally posted by Warnman:
I only know that in 1997 some of the Eurodance groups released their newer tracks in Japan, because sales volume was bigger than on the collapsed European market. E-Rotic's last releases where published in Japan only, because one of their albums developed a huge flop over here.
I don't know if there have been Eurodance raves in Japan, but Silver or someone else might be able to tell us more about it.
Well around 99/2000 there was a para para (fast eurodance) crazy so labels cashed in on that.
latininxtc Advanced Member
United States
7,307 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2013/12/07 : 07:06:14
quote:Originally posted by silver:
quote:Originally posted by Warnman:
I only know that in 1997 some of the Eurodance groups released their newer tracks in Japan, because sales volume was bigger than on the collapsed European market. E-Rotic's last releases where published in Japan only, because one of their albums developed a huge flop over here.
I don't know if there have been Eurodance raves in Japan, but Silver or someone else might be able to tell us more about it.
Well around 99/2000 there was a para para (fast eurodance) crazy so labels cashed in on that.
yes and thanks to that it brought such amazing classics as this!
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