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DJRTIK
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Posted - 2014/01/08 : 23:33:41
right here goes;
Ive only just began to record some of my mixes and was wondering what people think about them and what i need to improve on etc etc...
i have been dj'ing for a while now (6-12 months)
i would be grateful if somebody can tell me if there any good as i do want to go further and possibly make something out of it lol, as many do say but owell.
thanks for looking and appreciation for those who reply
http://www.mixcloud.com/DJRTIK/january-hardcore-mix/ the latest mix ive done
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Quicksilver
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 03:14:03
1st track is Styles - Here Tonight. :) 5th track is not Cutting Deep (but 6th is), it's Styles - Getting Better. :)
Nice tracklist, except for Re-con's remix of Digital Lover which I find to be shite. :D Absolutely love the Clubland mix of Surrender.
Regarding the mixing, overall quite good transitions and beat-matched! Refining the transitions will come with time. :)
This is a personal thing (some will agree and some will disagree) but try shortening a few more tracks. This can make a mix flow more and make it a bit more exciting! You did this between Getting Better and Cutting Deep but I'm not a huge fan of simply crossfading between tracks (although I do it sometimes myself, admittely). You could play a effect at the end of it (for example a delay or a stutter effect even) to make a cool or smoother transition into the next one. Gammer uses this kind of mixing tons so listen to a lot of his mixes if you wanna know what I mean. Although I think he overuses it a lot and I sometimes go crazy over how many times I wanna enjoy a full track but that rarely happens with him... but no one can deny he's a god at mixing. :P
Good mix, man!
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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 03:24:10
quote: Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Although I think he overuses it a lot and I sometimes go crazy over how many times I wanna enjoy a full track but that rarely happens with him... but no one can deny he's a god at mixing. :P
Yep, Gammer's completely forgotten how to just let a good tune drop. Although I acknowledge his technical skill as a DJ, his mixing these days grates on me a lot. Not everything needs to be double dropped or immediately mixed out of.
Anyway, on the original topic, I'll have a listen tomorrow.
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DJRTIK
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 11:22:23
thanks to those who replied, the digital lover track was just something to go in at the end i know i didnt sound the best but i thought i'd try it!
the darren styles getting better and cutting deep were mixed wrong anyway as i missed the marker i set to start mixing in cutting deep lol, still managed to save it haha just about.
the tracklisting on mixcloud was done automatically not by my
thanks, much appreciated
Marc
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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 14:02:56
Tracklist is a fine set of inoffensive mainstream hardcore. I like that you mixed across an entire decade of hardcore, I reckon it's not particularly easy to jump more than about 6 years back in a hardcore mix and get it sounding good because of style differences and changing production values. I prefer to go through an intermediary track if I want to do that but you didn't do a bad job.
That filter effect you're using: try to time it better. If you're going to use it right in the middle of a breakdown like in Here Tonight, you want to bring it back up so that the finish coincides with the beginning of a new phrase. It sounds like you may have been trying to time it right but went off for some reason. Are you using proper ASIO with a low enough latency (<~10ms)? Substantially more than about 10ms of playback latency will typically start to introduce small but noticeable misfires in your mix.
Are you always keeping the bass EQ bottomed out on one of the decks? It sounds like you've got too much bass between the two decks at some points. Typically with two tracks in sections with the drums playing, at least one of them should always have no bass at all.
With Boom Ba De, you've tried to mix a straight 4/4 drop of another tune into the section where Boom Ba De's rhythm changes and it goes into triplets. I'm sure we've all done this by accident (I know I have) but just know that there's no way to get this part (~11:30) to sound particularly good. It's a fundamental rhythm mismatch that you can't do anything about. To understand what I'm talking about, listen to the very first phrase of Boom Ba De on its own then immediately skip to about 45 seconds in. Listen to how the rhythm changes. The latter is known as triplets. Now, I've never known a hardcore triplet tune to not have a phrase or two of intro and outro with a regular rhythm so it's these parts that you have to mix into and out of. You have to be aware of how long before the track goes into triplets and stick to it. (Note that you also had exactly the same problem at the other end when you tried to mix in Surrender, triplet timing vs regular timing just sounds bad!)
9 tracks in 33 minutes is not a bad ratio by any means. I've seen plenty of hour long mixes where the DJ only played 12 or 13 tracks in that entire time. I didn't listen to them. Why? I don't find a whole set of end to end mixing exciting or particularly skillful. You've already started doing this so well done on getting a decent number of tracks into the mix. Still, experiment with different mix points to make it more exciting, as Quicksilver already said. You're on the way. There's a lot of personal opinion involved here. Maybe I'm biased because I generally put out mixes with 15 or more tracks in 33 minutes.
The volume difference between a lot of your tracks is quite substantial. This isn't your fault, of course, it's just changing mastering processes and individual differences between producers. That said, as a DJ, it's still your job to account for these differences and ensure your whole set is played at a (relatively) normalised level. If you have software auto-gain available (Virtual DJ and Traktor both offer this, I believe) then that can go some way towards fixing the problem but you can never trust computers to do a human's job entirely (auto-gain just maximises the gain without clipping, i.e. peaks at 0db, but that says nothing about compression and perceived volume). You can either go through each track in your collection and make a note of the gain settings you need (or get DJ software to make a note of it for you) or you can use PFL to adjust the gain each time you load up a new track. And during a crossfade, use the volume faders (or a smooth crossfader curve - bit of a cheat!) to keep the volume to a sane level. With the crossfader in the middle and both tracks going full pelt, things get substantially louder than either track playing individually. It's your job to manage this.
When you switch over into a new track, don't immediately release the old one every time. Invert the bass EQs on the tracks during the break and let the old one play out for at least another phrase. Only by doing this can you get the really nice long legato mixes that end to end mixing should ideally entail.
Anyway, I hope that helps. Keep it up! I've heard much worse. :)
Edit: I realise I've got into a lot of detail here so if there's anything you want me to explain better then ask.
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DJRTIK
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 16:25:19
Hi Elliott;
thanks for listening to my mix, i'm using traktor 2 with a pioneer DDJ - T1, i wouldnt have a clue on how or where the auto gain is lol :(
boom ba de was just a sort of a quick pick as i wasnt quite sure on what track to pick to mix into it and as with the drop i think my timing was off as into the drop, i did a mix before using recon - kids and boom ba de and it sounded ok to me but this was back when i first started on a mixtrack pro lol.
to be honest i think i've got a hell of a lot better since getting the pioneer setup. like i say im still relatively new to DJ'ing but hopefully i will get there in the end!
the problem with the gains is that my speakers were quite quiet and was mainly relying on the headphones abit too much.
anyways will use your info m8 really appreciative of that, will post up some new mixes soon so hopefully you can check them out!
cheers, Marc
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wong
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 16:43:21
Auto gain will be in the settings somewhere, all you need to do is enable it :)
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DJRTIK
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Posted - 2014/01/09 : 17:07:13
quote: Originally posted by wong:
Auto gain will be in the settings somewhere, all you need to do is enable it :)
cheers man will have a look when i have a blast on it later
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