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Too late to try to get recognized in Hardcore?

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Quicksilver
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Posted - 2014/01/16 :  20:37:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Quicksilver's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Hey, look at Adrenalize - kid is 16 or 17 now and has gotten huge in the Hardstyle scene, thanks to Headhunterz who took him on about year ago, with releases on big labels and plays on big events. It's never too late!



wouldn't that be an example of the opposite? too much recognition too soon?



I don't get it?

He's asking if it's too late to get into the scene, and I provided an example of a young teen in another scene who broke through just recently. :P


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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2014/01/17 :  02:51:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage  Reply with quote
I think an example where someone much older than a 17 year old breaking through would make more sense.

Then you could really say: it's never too late




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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2014/01/17 :  12:30:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah that's what i was thinking. Surely at that age the concern would be that you are too young lol? Although i appreciate that he means too late in the progression of the scene, not age wise.



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Quicksilver
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Posted - 2014/01/17 :  12:33:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Quicksilver's homepage  Reply with quote
It depends on how you interpret his post though.

I interpreted it as he was worried the scene had been divided into the different groups between all the DJs and producers and most of them have been there for 10+ years and wouldn't let anyone else in. But I guess you interpreted it as the original poster himself is too old and that would make it hard for him to break through. It's probably what he meant as well, I guess. :P


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maddkid53
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Posted - 2014/01/17 :  18:36:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit maddkid53's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get: he means too late in the progression of the scene, not age wise.





This is what I meant. I'm only 22 in a month, I'm not worried about my own time left on this earth, more that hardcore is older and wiser than I am and might not be okay with freshmen sitting at the cool kids table during lunch.


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Quicksilver
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Posted - 2014/01/17 :  18:39:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Quicksilver's homepage  Reply with quote
So in that case what I said wasn't off then. XD

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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/01/18 :  14:34:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Dys7:
Is it worth the effort if your biggest dream is to see your name on a HU album? Definitely. Is it worth the effort if you just wanna be famous? Not so much. Other posters are right, if all that work wasn't fun and was instead a chore, nobody would do it. Most of us small fish do producing as a hobby, and any recognition or fame or signage is just a side effect of that, although a great one.


I was going to post something and then I saw this. You already said it all.

I'd go one step further and say that the absolutely optimal position is to be motivated entirely by making music even if no-one ever hears it and to not have any real goals or dreams. That way, you'll have a load of fun, never be demotivated and never fall short in your own eyes.

Still, I think I'd find it quite depressing if I was never able to share my work with anyone except myself so maybe it's an unrealistic ideal!


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Edited by - Elliott on 2014/01/18 14:37:49
Maggers
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Posted - 2014/01/18 :  16:43:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Maggers's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Elliott:
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Originally posted by Dys7:
Is it worth the effort if your biggest dream is to see your name on a HU album? Definitely. Is it worth the effort if you just wanna be famous? Not so much. Other posters are right, if all that work wasn't fun and was instead a chore, nobody would do it. Most of us small fish do producing as a hobby, and any recognition or fame or signage is just a side effect of that, although a great one.


I was going to post something and then I saw this. You already said it all.

I'd go one step further and say that the absolutely optimal position is to be motivated entirely by making music even if no-one ever hears it and to not have any real goals or dreams. That way, you'll have a load of fun, never be demotivated and never fall short in your own eyes.

Still, I think I'd find it quite depressing if I was never able to share my work with anyone except myself so maybe it's an unrealistic ideal!



I think what you've both said makes sense and covers my thoughts.

Also, at some point in time all those europeans will move on to other things life, and for the scene to be sustainable it needs new artists. But you should write music and/or dj because you love it, not because you want to be famous or earn a fortune - because hardcore is a small enough scene that neither is really a reasonable expectation from the start. You might get lucky, but the vast majority of the scene is people who have jobs/school and write music/ or run labels on the side.

For the original question - no - I don't think it's too late for you to get into the scene. The amazing thing I find is that I'm still hearing music from the 90's for the first time and I started listening to hardcore in 2001. With digital re-releases its possible to fill your collection with classics and new releases. And if you write solid music, it seems like more than ever, the labels are completely willing to push new artists and there are lots of avenues to release music yourself. :)

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Mental_Adam
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Posted - 2014/01/19 :  04:19:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mental_Adam's homepage  Reply with quote
How could it be too late?

The power of the internet surely holds a vital key to recognition


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ricHARDcore
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Posted - 2014/01/19 :  05:19:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ricHARDcore's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
If you enjoy doing it and aren't motivated by money or popularity then you have nothing to lose really. If people like your music then it doesn't matter how old you are, they will listen to it.



I think the answer was at the very beginning of this topic! (by Hard2Get) All I can add to this is: it don't matter what country you live in, the color of your skin, your age, your clothes, your contacts etc. Music is an International language.

If you really love what you do, and you put your heart into it, you will find people that like what you do.


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