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Gazza1712
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 Posted - 2014/04/02 : 21:46:45
It was slammin vinyl who carried out the crb check and it was a full and proper one and took
6 weeks to get the results back, storm and chris both knew he agreed to it and that it was grant at slammin vinyl that was doing it
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djDMS
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Posted - 2014/04/02 : 21:47:55
Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/04/02 : 22:02:15
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone!
At least Hardcore Underground is still alive and doing well! It's the only label that really peaks my interest atm. That and the freeform labels, although I haven't been keeping up with freeform as of late I think I'll peruse Stamina Records if I have the time. Gotta finish packing first going out of town for the weekend.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2014/04/02 : 23:02:06
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Originally posted by Gazza1712:
It was slammin vinyl who carried out the crb check and it was a full and proper one and took
6 weeks to get the results back, storm and chris both knew he agreed to it and that it was grant at slammin vinyl that was doing it
Sy hasn't been booked by Slammin Vinyl since it kicked off as far as I know. Unless he's saying they were happy to book him but didn't because of other factors such as MC storm.
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DJ SCOTT DEVOTION
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Posted - 2014/04/02 : 23:38:24
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Originally posted by ConnerIntenzifi:
All this just sums up how pathetic the uk hardcore scene is. You would have thought when it first came about they would have done everything behind the scenes, the checks etc...
A big part of a guys career is ruined & all "they" keep doing is bitching over facebook etc...
I'm one of only 3 promoters in Scotland & it makes me want to say **** them & let it go down the drain here which is close anyway. Only just keeping it alive
I have to agree with you ConnerIntenzifi.
I have not been participating in this scene since mid 2010, I thought it was a pathetic scene then, full of people in it for the wrong reasons. Myself, as an outsider to hardcore music, looking back recently on what is happening within hardcore and listening to the music and seeing how it is all going, I read and listen in disgust. The scene is so amature, with many top name DJ's and MC's acting like little school kids bitching on the NET, these guys are older men in there mid 30's plus, think some people need to grow up and move on and pass the baton on to the younger generation, sort it out you idiots. It is not the most mature of scenes anyway.
As DJ DMS said:
"Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone"
Yes agree and looking at the scene and catching up on it, it seems far worse than when I knew the ins and out's speaking to fellow dj's etc. Dam shame imo to see a scene make itself look so pathetic in so many ways, not just in this thread topic. May be the so called people whom run the hardcore scene will sort it all out.
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fakka13k
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 02:48:31
I wonder if this has reared it's ugly head again due to HTID Ravers Choice? I'm guessing Storm has had a bit of a backlash from the promoters and maybe other dj's? Rekkon he's gotten Chris to hold off his statement on the matter as a last ditch attemp maybe?
Anyway Fcuk storm!
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ricHARDcore
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Canada
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 03:06:07
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Originally posted by DJ SCOTT DEVOTION:
I have not been participating in this scene since mid 2010, I thought it was a pathetic scene then, full of people in it for the wrong reasons. Myself, as an outsider to hardcore music, looking back recently on what is happening within hardcore and listening to the music and seeing how it is all going, I read and listen in disgust. The scene is so amature, with many top name DJ's and MC's acting like little school kids bitching on the NET, these guys are older men in there mid 30's plus, think some people need to grow up and move on and pass the baton on to the younger generation, sort it out you idiots. It is not the most mature of scenes anyway.
As DJ DMS said:
"Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone"
Yes agree and looking at the scene and catching up on it, it seems far worse than when I knew the ins and out's speaking to fellow dj's etc. Dam shame imo to see a scene make itself look so pathetic in so many ways, not just in this thread topic. May be the so called people whom run the hardcore scene will sort it all out.
What I feel is happening is that some people are ruining this scene by thinking too much about them and what people think of them.
The thing is that "rave partys" are all about the crowd, the music and having fun. (not about you and yourself)
I know so many good guys who were implicated in the scene and who have disappear because they were sick of all of this bullying! Come on
What about hitting the "reset" button and starting all over? Anyway, my point is that we should stand together and help each others. The others, who don't wanna follow, they are the kind we are talking about here.
Imagine how others feel when reading all of this bashing! It makes me sick to see all those talented producers leaving or moving to other scenes!
I don't know so much about Sy's history. What I know is that he was an excellent producer and Dj not so long ago. So much talented. This guy have done a lot for Hardcore. That's the facts
The rest of the history is speculations as nobody have a real "proof" of it. (from what I read) If so, correct me!
I know he refuse to tell the truth but that's his choice. He will have to deal with the consequences now. So get over this and give this guy what he deserve. Respect for what he did for hardcore and have some reserve about his personal life. As Sc@r said, I'm pretty sure many people did worst things and nobody even notice.
We should start some label like: global Hardcore - Or - Reborn Hardcore - I would jump into some project like that and just let the others auto-destroy themselves instead of letting them destroy everything.
I love Happy/Uk hardcore... The old stuff.... Where people were authentic... music was diversify, every producer as his own identity. We can observe this in the new breed of hardcore artists, many times in other country than the UK... (and that's a shame as it come from the Uk)
Once again, sorry if I make mistakes as I speak french at home.
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Luna-C
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 03:06:58
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Because the days of everybody working together toward a common goal are long gone!
Those days never existed. There was just no internet so the dicks were dicks in private, and the common goal was make good music rather than be king of the pond.
As for this whole thing? I think it unfair that anyone should expect Sy to "give evidence" to the general public - firstly because it was a private matter and should have remained so. Those who made it public are massively irresponsible. And secondly, as Sy well knows, it would do no good. He would have to defend himself forever repeatedly. If he came on here and uploaded some proof or whatever, in 3 months time the same accusation would be made on a different site.
I hardly know Sy, but I like him because he has always dealt reasonably with me. I don't know Unknown as all, but I have no animosity towards him either. What I am saying is I have no dog in this fight Syhe had done something terrible, he would be in jail. If the police raided his house, you know they would have wanted to be able to convict - and if they did not, its because they could not. So I feel the worst he did was get caught with images that anyone who has ever looked at porn online has seen. This makes me think he was just very unlucky.
Even worst luck was having some of the "friends" he had.
When this originally blew up, I wrote a thing defending Sy, and I sent it to him to make sure it was okay if I posted it. Thats what adults do - discuss private matters privately. He did not want me to post it because he hoped it would all die down and go away.
I am dismayed (but sadly not surprised) that certain people in the scene thought it would be okay to just blurt out such damaging stuff. A mans career has been irrevocably damaged by rumour and idiocy. Since it happened, I have avoided those people like the plague. They are not to be trusted because they have shown they have neither the ability or the desire to act like mature adults.
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Luna-C
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 03:09:07
There doesn't seem to be an edit button, but it should read:
"I am saying is I have no dog in this fight. IF Sy had done something terrible"
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Simon
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 05:04:45
Couldn't really agree more with everything that's been said. Sy made it quite clear, NOT prosecuted and no travel bans etc. Something very minor (no pun intended!) has happened and we know the UK laws are very strict on this sort of thing, rightly so when it comes to those monsters out there who take advantage of children. If he was one of those monsters then the world would already know and the fact we don't know goes some way to proving his innosence.
It's a very emotive subject when accusations are made that involve people under age and often the guilty verdict is passed as soon as the rumours start. As for a CRB check, you just don't go around waving those in anybody's face, like Chris said it won't do him any good or make this go away. The horse has already bolted, the people have already judged it is a fait accompli.
It's a shame about his friends, time he moved on and made some new ones, perhaps he should consider doing the same with his music and join a new scene either way I wish him all the best and hope he can get his life back on track. I refuse to condemn anyone without knowing all the facts, I'll let the law enforcers do their job and stay away from the trial by social media..
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 07:53:57
Yeah agree with Luna-C. Its something that should be kept private. I wrote last night that no one has the 'right' to know. What impact does it have on the people listening to his music? Even in the worat case scenario it shouldnt impact anyone in the public unless they take their kids to events.
Its a mission on behalf of some to destroy him and use him as a leg up for themselves.
I stil have no idea what the **** Ramos is still ripping chunks for. I dont think he has a solid handle on this situation at all.
But I dont think this should be something we should even know about let alone talk about...
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DJ SCOTT DEVOTION
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 08:30:28
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Originally posted by ricHARDcore:
What I feel is happening is that some people are ruining this scene by thinking too much about them and what people think of them.
The thing is that "rave partys" are all about the crowd, the music and having fun. (not about you and yourself)
I know so many good guys who were implicated in the scene and who have disappear because they were sick of all of this bullying! Come on
What about hitting the "reset" button and starting all over? Anyway, my point is that we should stand together and help each others. The others, who don't wanna follow, they are the kind we are talking about here.
Imagine how others feel when reading all of this bashing! It makes me sick to see all those talented producers leaving or moving to other scenes!
I don't know so much about Sy's history. What I know is that he was an excellent producer and Dj not so long ago. So much talented. This guy have done a lot for Hardcore. That's the facts
The rest of the history is speculations as nobody have a real "proof" of it. (from what I read) If so, correct me!
I know he refuse to tell the truth but that's his choice. He will have to deal with the consequences now. So get over this and give this guy what he deserve. Respect for what he did for hardcore and have some reserve about his personal life. As Sc@r said, I'm pretty sure many people did worst things and nobody even notice.
We should start some label like: global Hardcore - Or - Reborn Hardcore - I would jump into some project like that and just let the others auto-destroy themselves instead of letting them destroy everything.
I love Happy/Uk hardcore... The old stuff.... Where people were authentic... music was diversify, every producer as his own identity. We can observe this in the new breed of hardcore artists, many times in other country than the UK... (and that's a shame as it come from the Uk)
Once again, sorry if I make mistakes as I speak french at home.
PLUR
Well said mate.
I also agree with Luna C and Elipton very much. This should have been kept behind closed doors and I feel this should not have been spurted out in the way it was. This was only going to cause more damage and arguments and whom had the right to spurt it out on public websites anyway.
To many loud mouth immature people at the so called top of the hardcore scene, grown men that should really grow up and have moved on anyway, just adding fuel to the fire, in order to gain some limelight.
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Mitchie DJ
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 09:39:59
yeah ramos has shown his true colours aswell slandering sy like he has, btw if you dont know ramos said hes quitting DJing after this weekend after what was beening said on chris unknowns facebook status in support of sy (oh yeah guess whos on the same line up as ramos this weekend... sy) this is all being dragged up again because of HTID having to cancel ravers choice because Sy was voted number 1 DJ by the ravers.
that must of been so embarrassing for storm and his goons to see, so now they are trying to remind us about the 'facts' that they cant prove... thats called being a contradict and giving hearsay evidence by the way.
Lets get behind Sy and show our support for an innocent man, if it means we lose bullies like ramos and afew other dinosaurs then so be it.
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arpz
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 09:50:13
The second children get involved (or are implied to be involved) people start becoming very irrational, often to the point of completely over-reacting.
It's like Jeremy Kyle on that Facebook update.
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Posted - 2014/04/03 : 09:56:59
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Originally posted by arpz:
The second children get involved (or are implied to be involved) people start becoming very irrational, often to the point of completely over-reacting.
It's like Jeremy Kyle on that Facebook update.
It's mob justice unfortunately.
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