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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2014/05/13 : 17:27:13
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
A few years back I made a bunch of these bouncy techno style tracks. Just for a bit of fun, really, I've always loved the sound but I know it's far from everyone's taste. Piece of piss to make too, such a basic formula, which again may be why some folk don't like it.
I only seem to have this one on Soundcloud at the minute, I'll find the others on my other PC later, might even do another one.
Thanks for sharing, good tune as well and varied. A lot of people are ignorant to the style and just think of it as one hook with the same Bassdrum but in fact the style is more complex than people think. Often the people who slag this type of Hardcore off are the ones fear it as this was Hardcore's routes and it will always stay on op, why else do people still make it if no one likes it?
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 17:29:08
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
yeah i dont understand the music industry lol so your telling me its easy to getta break ? theres more arse licking going on in the rave scene (& music in general) then there is in a gay bar lol or at least there is in the UK, dunno what its like down under but over here thats how it is & has been for years sadly
& btw im not saying that some people dont get noticed without arse licking but their far & few between & yeah i agree marketing has something to do with it in a sense but like i say over here arse licking does happen all the time
Good points here, the scene was run by a lot of fakes over the last 10 years which has lead to Hardcore' ultimate demise, at least the commercial stuff, it was loosing its appeal fast but those days are over now and new people are coming through, we are in the 2010s remember, not the 2000s so what was the way 10 years ago has gone out of fashion
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raindancerob
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 18:20:36
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
yeah i dont understand the music industry lol so your telling me its easy to getta break ? theres more arse licking going on in the rave scene (& music in general) then there is in a gay bar lol or at least there is in the UK, dunno what its like down under but over here thats how it is & has been for years sadly
& btw im not saying that some people dont get noticed without arse licking but their far & few between & yeah i agree marketing has something to do with it in a sense but like i say over here arse licking does happen all the time
Good points here, the scene was run by a lot of fakes over the last 10 years which has lead to Hardcore' ultimate demise, at least the commercial stuff, it was loosing its appeal fast but those days are over now and new people are coming through, we are in the 2010s remember, not the 2000s so what was the way 10 years ago has gone out of fashion
has always been that way fella the Fantazia split back in the 90s is a perfect example & the way its run now lets just say i wouldnt play or goto one ever again even for a million pounds, its fake anyways is only someone paying to use the name. no doubt the fan boys will say different but iv known (& used to work for) the guy for years. hes a con artist through & through only interested in milking his cash cow & booking whoever is the farthest up his arse at any given time
btw sorry if i sound like im having a dig at you or anyone else im not but if anyone thinks the scene is about love & all dancing together over the rainbow their mistaken. the scenes gotten worse over the years with the politics & back stabbing that goes on. trust me iv seen it first hand, leave em to it anyways the truth comes out in the end ;o)
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Sulphurik
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 19:05:41
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 19:11:20
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
it needs to or "uk hardcore" is finished the style that's being pushed right now isn't working
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raindancerob
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 22:00:44
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
it never went away tbh. sure new tunes werent being made but its still popular & is played at raves in Scotland, the midlands & north of England etc
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 22:32:15
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
btw sorry if i sound like im having a dig at you or anyone else im not but if anyone thinks the scene is about love & all dancing together over the rainbow their mistaken. the scenes gotten worse over the years with the politics & back stabbing that goes on. trust me iv seen it first hand, leave em to it anyways the truth comes out in the end ;o)
That's not the real Hardcore scene, the real Hardcore scene is still about the music but the back stabbers have pushed there way in it but slowly things are starting to change. Real Hardcore is back just more underground with people like us supporting it rather than some 'fake' artists
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 22:34:31
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
it needs to or "uk hardcore" is finished the style that's being pushed right now isn't working
UK Hardcore has had its day. The crowed that it was 'aimed' at grew up and got bored of it while the new crowd have gone towards Dubstep and Electro while 'UK Hardcore' or Upfront as we used to call it is just last decade's fad. Freeform is still going around and the Dutch still have their Gabber but the so called 'Old Skool' is not really Old Skool now, it is being re invented at last
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raindancerob
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 23:24:15
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
btw sorry if i sound like im having a dig at you or anyone else im not but if anyone thinks the scene is about love & all dancing together over the rainbow their mistaken. the scenes gotten worse over the years with the politics & back stabbing that goes on. trust me iv seen it first hand, leave em to it anyways the truth comes out in the end ;o)
That's not the real Hardcore scene, the real Hardcore scene is still about the music but the back stabbers have pushed there way in it but slowly things are starting to change. Real Hardcore is back just more underground with people like us supporting it rather than some 'fake' artists
sadly the fakes pretty much run the show & all some people care about is money & their ego. dont get me wrong not everyones like that but their far & few between. thats why i mainly do charity events now cuz their doing em for the right reasons
imo people should get somewhere from talent alone but its hard to get anywhere when you refuse to suck people off
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 23:28:51
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
it needs to or "uk hardcore" is finished the style that's being pushed right now isn't working
UK Hardcore has had its day. The crowed that it was 'aimed' at grew up and got bored of it while the new crowd have gone towards Dubstep and Electro while 'UK Hardcore' or Upfront as we used to call it is just last decade's fad. Freeform is still going around and the Dutch still have their Gabber but the so called 'Old Skool' is not really Old Skool now, it is being re invented at last
each to their own but i agree at least back in the 90s hardcore had its own identity. alot of UK hardcore stuff now is just speeded up trance or whatever & imo it sounds way too polished anyways, uno like it isint raw anymore. hardcore should be just that hard, sure cheese is good imo but at least make the beats hard & it sound like hardcore not trance or whatever (only faster)
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/05/13 : 23:35:45
This is turning into the same conversation over and over again lol
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2014/05/14 : 00:47:44
I was blasting "Return To Toytown" the other weekend. Sounded just as fresh as I'm sure it did when it was played in 1997-era.
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brodster
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Posted - 2014/05/14 : 03:25:55
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
it needs to or "uk hardcore" is finished the style that's being pushed right now isn't working
UK Hardcore has had its day. The crowed that it was 'aimed' at grew up and got bored of it while the new crowd have gone towards Dubstep and Electro while 'UK Hardcore' or Upfront as we used to call it is just last decade's fad. Freeform is still going around and the Dutch still have their Gabber but the so called 'Old Skool' is not really Old Skool now, it is being re invented at last
each to their own but i agree at least back in the 90s hardcore had its own identity. alot of UK hardcore stuff now is just speeded up trance or whatever & imo it sounds way too polished anyways, uno like it isint raw anymore. hardcore should be just that hard, sure cheese is good imo but at least make the beats hard & it sound like hardcore not trance or whatever (only faster)
well now it's more like sped up electro house, which like you said is too polished. The beats aren't hard, the snare drums are bigger than the kicks, and a lot of tunes are forgettable.
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raindancerob
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Posted - 2014/05/14 : 08:40:33
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Originally posted by brodster:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
it needs to or "uk hardcore" is finished the style that's being pushed right now isn't working
UK Hardcore has had its day. The crowed that it was 'aimed' at grew up and got bored of it while the new crowd have gone towards Dubstep and Electro while 'UK Hardcore' or Upfront as we used to call it is just last decade's fad. Freeform is still going around and the Dutch still have their Gabber but the so called 'Old Skool' is not really Old Skool now, it is being re invented at last
each to their own but i agree at least back in the 90s hardcore had its own identity. alot of UK hardcore stuff now is just speeded up trance or whatever & imo it sounds way too polished anyways, uno like it isint raw anymore. hardcore should be just that hard, sure cheese is good imo but at least make the beats hard & it sound like hardcore not trance or whatever (only faster)
well now it's more like sped up electro house, which like you said is too polished. The beats aren't hard, the snare drums are bigger than the kicks, and a lot of tunes are forgettable.
shows how out of touch with UK hardcore i am then lol never liked electro house either
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/05/14 : 09:16:01
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Originally posted by brodster:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Can't see this style making a come back tbh.
it needs to or "uk hardcore" is finished the style that's being pushed right now isn't working
UK Hardcore has had its day. The crowed that it was 'aimed' at grew up and got bored of it while the new crowd have gone towards Dubstep and Electro while 'UK Hardcore' or Upfront as we used to call it is just last decade's fad. Freeform is still going around and the Dutch still have their Gabber but the so called 'Old Skool' is not really Old Skool now, it is being re invented at last
each to their own but i agree at least back in the 90s hardcore had its own identity. alot of UK hardcore stuff now is just speeded up trance or whatever & imo it sounds way too polished anyways, uno like it isint raw anymore. hardcore should be just that hard, sure cheese is good imo but at least make the beats hard & it sound like hardcore not trance or whatever (only faster)
well now it's more like sped up electro house, which like you said is too polished. The beats aren't hard, the snare drums are bigger than the kicks, and a lot of tunes are forgettable.
if they brought back the bouncy techno/happy hardcore sound with moder production styles it would make a big change in how people veiw them i think they might even regain a bit respect i don't know how they can like this or even dare call it hardcore for that matter maybe it's all part of a bigger plane to make sure the scene is still here 10 years from now if not then breeze and all his cronies should just retire or piss of and ruin another scene n never come back
the hard needs to be brought back into hardcore
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