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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
658 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2014/11/19 : 09:40:35
Saw in a recent interview on youtube and in the dance press Tiesto answers why he left Trance for EDM and House.
To summarise in short form. He basically says nobody really cares about Trance anymore and that it would have been counter productive to his career.
Also that it is nice to be intouch with the new generation of 16 to 18 year old producers that are mostly into house now days.
Is also more exciting to play shorter tunes that don't go for 8 minutes like Trance tracks.
I never liked Tiesto when he played Trance but have to admit the sound he plays now is alot more versatile and interesting.
Just shows it pays to move with the times. Most of the old Hard Trance djs don't even make the Top 100 anymore. Have nearly all been knocked out by Hardstyle and EDM djs.
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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
658 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2014/11/19 : 09:41:39
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Saw in a recent interview on youtube and in the dance press Tiesto answers why he left Trance for EDM and House.
To summarise in short form. He basically says nobody really cares about Trance anymore and that it would have been counter productive to his career.
Also that it is nice to be intouch with the new generation of 16 to 18 year olds producers that are mostly into house now days.
Is also more exciting to play shorter trachs that don't go for 8 minutes like Trance tracks.
I never liked Tiesto when he played Trance but have to admit the sound he plays now is alot more versatile and interesting.
Just shows it pays to move with the times. Most of the old Hard Trance djs don't even make the Top 100 anymore. Have nearly all been knocked out by Hardstyle and EDM djs.
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Let's ditch the candy & go back to the gym & streetwear at raves :)
Rodz90 Average Member
United Kingdom
208 posts Joined: Sep, 2012
Posted - 2014/11/19 : 09:49:02
Take that how you will, my personal perception is that's just marketing fluff for "other genres had more money".
He was a pretty average trance dj anyway compared to others. Artists like Lange, JOC, Aly & Fila, Simon Patterson, Paul Oakenfold, Menno de jong, Indecent Noise are all paving the way for trances bright future in my opinion.
latininxtc Advanced Member
United States
7,307 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2014/11/19 : 15:52:30
I always thought he was the most boring shit during his trance career. I never understood why people liked him so much. I think playing at the Summer Olympics helped his career further, which is a damn shame as I would have loved to never see more of him ever.
ninja edit New Member
Spain
51 posts Joined: Aug, 2014
Posted - 2014/11/19 : 18:47:34
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
I always thought he was the most boring shit during his trance career. I never understood why people liked him so much. I think playing at the Summer Olympics helped his career further, which is a damn shame as I would have loved to never see more of him ever.
maybe you dont like trance ?) cause for example these are masterpieces
rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
658 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2014/11/20 : 06:49:41
The music he plays on his Club life show I think is alot better than Trance. Don't think it was ever about the money. Is better music what he plays now.
Davie Forbes left Happy Hardcore and changed his name to just David Forbes making Trance instead. He could be called a sell out in that case too.
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Rodz90 Average Member
United Kingdom
208 posts Joined: Sep, 2012
Posted - 2014/11/20 : 10:13:04
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Is better music what he plays now.
Subjective
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Davie Forbes left Happy Hardcore and changed his name to just David Forbes making Trance instead. He could be called a sell out in that case too.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,224 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
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Posted - 2014/11/20 : 12:12:54
quote:Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Davie Forbes left Happy Hardcore and changed his name to just David Forbes making Trance instead. He could be called a sell out in that case too.
That's a completely different scale
And then there's Carl Cox aswell
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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
658 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2014/11/21 : 05:37:35
quote:Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Is better music what he plays now.
Subjective
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Davie Forbes left Happy Hardcore and changed his name to just David Forbes making Trance instead. He could be called a sell out in that case too.
That's a completely different scale
Yeah your right, Davie Forbes and Mark Sherrys change to Trance was a much bigger sellout act than what dj Tiesto did.
Is just so typical of the Trance scene. When djs joined their scene from other genres it is acceptable but when djs leave their scene suddenly they are called sellouts.
Trance is a sinking ship, and the genre is far too formulated and generic to evolve into anything new anymore. One reason why EDM House is leaving Trance in the dusty past at all major festivals. It is new, far more creative and a much warmer friendlier sound.
The dance scene has moved on.
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Elipton Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,268 posts Joined: Apr, 2013
Posted - 2014/11/21 : 07:56:06
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Is better music what he plays now.
Subjective
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Davie Forbes left Happy Hardcore and changed his name to just David Forbes making Trance instead. He could be called a sell out in that case too.
That's a completely different scale
Yeah your right, Davie Forbes and Mark Sherrys change to Trance was a much bigger sellout act than what dj Tiesto did.
Is just so typical of the Trance scene. When djs joined their scene from other genres it is acceptable but when dj leave their scene suddenly they are called sellouts.
Trance is a sinking ship, and the genre is far to formulated and generic to evolve into anything new anymore. One reason why EDM House is leaving Trance in the dusty past. It is new, far more creative and a much warmer friendlier sound.
The dance scene has moved on.
I don't know if any DJ leaving a dying genre is selling out. It only makes sense to leave one industry and take your skills to another to save your career.
I don't think Trance has died by any means, and Tiesto was a heavyweight who could have influenced its direction.
Hard2Get Advanced Member
United Kingdom
12,837 posts Joined: Jun, 2001
Posted - 2014/12/02 : 09:28:29
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Saw in a recent interview on youtube and in the dance press Tiesto answers why he left Trance for EDM and House.
To summarise in short form. He basically says nobody really cares about Trance anymore and that it would have been counter productive to his career.
Also that it is nice to be intouch with the new generation of 16 to 18 year old producers that are mostly into house now days.
Is also more exciting to play shorter tunes that don't go for 8 minutes like Trance tracks.
I never liked Tiesto when he played Trance but have to admit the sound he plays now is alot more versatile and interesting.
Just shows it pays to move with the times. Most of the old Hard Trance djs don't even make the Top 100 anymore. Have nearly all been knocked out by Hardstyle and EDM djs.
brodster Junior Member
United States
99 posts Joined: Nov, 2013
Posted - 2014/12/18 : 04:39:15
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Rodz90:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Is better music what he plays now.
Subjective
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Davie Forbes left Happy Hardcore and changed his name to just David Forbes making Trance instead. He could be called a sell out in that case too.
That's a completely different scale
Yeah your right, Davie Forbes and Mark Sherrys change to Trance was a much bigger sellout act than what dj Tiesto did.
Is just so typical of the Trance scene. When djs joined their scene from other genres it is acceptable but when djs leave their scene suddenly they are called sellouts.
Trance is a sinking ship, and the genre is far too formulated and generic to evolve into anything new anymore. One reason why EDM House is leaving Trance in the dusty past at all major festivals. It is new, far more creative and a much warmer friendlier sound.
The dance scene has moved on.
I think you are confusing "more creative" with "more profitable". About 95% of new mainstream EDM ain't creative at all. It is mostly to please the masses. All the producers at the top either had connections or were just lucky. And that's not even considering ghost production. EDM is being manufactured, not created.
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