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bantamlad1
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2014/12/06 : 12:26:20
Oh god, this is agony.. (lol)
his tracks were/are my favourite hardcore stuff, but i've just listened to a few of his new songs and it's painfully sh*te and that's the nicest way of putting it
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rafferty
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Posted - 2014/12/07 : 01:08:12
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by rafferty:
All that Trancey Stuff alot of you guys like is not even the real Hardcore sound. The stuff Seduction, Slipmatt and Hixxy were doing in the 90s is the only True hardcore.
I like it how you say stuff like this, yet you complain about japanese hardcore? If anything, they are closer to late 90's Hardcore than UK Hardcore is
90's UK Happy Hardcore is nothing like Jcore. The kicks in UK Happy Hardcore were way heavier with lots of breatbeat influences too and it was all in English.
Have no idea what made you think that.
You seem to be stuck in the past. Like it or not Hardcore can't keep recycling a an old sounding Trance riff from 10 plus years ago. The new generation of ravers won't get into it. You look at all the Hardcore djs at the top of their game now and in the dance scene in general. They are nearly all playing fresh EDM or Hardstyle influenced sounds and have moved with the times.
Is not groundhog day mate.
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Ravemark
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Posted - 2014/12/07 : 04:42:04
Yeah S3rl really has changed his music. I like a lot of his his early tracks. I remember Pretty rave chick was huge.
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skankineddie666
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United States
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Posted - 2014/12/07 : 05:04:01
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Originally posted by Ravemark:
Yeah S3rl really has changed his music. I like a lot of his his early tracks. I remember Pretty rave chick was huge.
I used to like that song.... The first 3 times I heard it.... Then it got over played to death...
To me, S3RLs - Rave Girl was what Breeze & Styles - Your Shining was.....It was a good tune that got played, over and over and over and over in till everyone got tired of it but then it kept getting remix after remix after remix that you eventually got sick of the whole thing together.
(Wasn't really comparing both songs just trying to make a point to what became of them)
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Samination
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Posted - 2014/12/07 : 08:10:40
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Originally posted by rafferty:
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by rafferty:
.... The stuff Seduction, Slipmatt and Hixxy were doing in the 90s is the only True hardcore.
I like it how you say stuff like this, yet you complain about japanese hardcore? If anything, they are closer to late 90's Hardcore than UK Hardcore is
90's UK Happy Hardcore is nothing like Jcore. The kicks in UK Happy Hardcore were way heavier with lots of breatbeat influences too and it was all in English.
Have no idea what made you think that.
You seem to be stuck in the past. Like it or not Hardcore can't keep recycling a an old sounding Trance riff from 10 plus years ago. The new generation of ravers won't get into it. You look at all the Hardcore djs at the top of their game now and in the dance scene in general. They are nearly all playing fresh EDM or Hardstyle influenced sounds and have moved with the times.
Is not groundhog day mate.
Who's stuck in the past you say? ;)
I might have heard the old stuff when I started getting to Hardcore, but Bonkers 8 was just around the corner, and that was the stuff that got me hooked in the first place.
I'm fashinated that you say that jcore is nothing like 90's Brittish Happy Hardcore. Firstly, I said j-core was CLOSER to the 90's stuff compared to the trancier stuff, not that i WAS the same. And it IS! Not in what samples are used, but in the actual FEELING of the track. Just listen to most stuff that Shimamura, REDALiCE and P*Light make instead of what most people associate with j-core nowaways (like Sharpnel and M-Project).
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/12/07 : 09:19:31
I was talking to someone about S3RL today at the Toronto event I was at. And I remember seeing an interview of S3RL on youtube about how he met Kevin Energy and after meeting him he learned so much that he went back and re-worked a lot of his tracks. Well, that honestly didn't last long as a year later he started going downhill for me.
For me his downward slope started with Pika Girl. I just could not stand the overly cheesiness and ridiculous lyrics a good number of his tracks were filled with after that one release. It seemed whatever he learned from Kevin Energy didn't stick around very long, and his tracks severely suffered from that lack of inspiration. I'm actually a bit glad he's gone from hardcore.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2014/12/08 : 01:54:40
720 suicide; transformers; birds & bees; here we go; butterfly... i really liked s3rl lol
to be honest the whole " trance sounding hardcore has had it's day" i just don't really feel.
besides using female vocals and similar euphoric sounding elements; trance & hardcore are totally absolutely different. an old armin van buuren show ( or sound) is nothing like a uk hardcore show and never was.
most trance fans definitely do not like hardcore either.
i think maybe some people just get sick of what hardcore sounds like and wish it would change or evolve... and that is not quite fair to everyone else ;)
the difference in perception due to area must be a massive factor that needs to be considered as well; because as far as the US is concerned; ditching this so called " trance" element ( which is as far as i am concerned what makes hardcore hardcore and what makes most people " kandi kids" or go to hardcore shows; in the US ) is already proving to be a failure and get pretty bad backlash.
i don't like house; or people that go to house shows honestly.
most people that like hardcore; don't like house or really hanging out with house people
alot of the people i see enjoing this trend are the people that not too long ago had no idea what hardcore was.. and probably won't again very soon. just mainstream hoppers. ..or never even took the time to take the hardcore scene seriously... hard not to get a little mad when loads of people are defiling something you love for a quick orgasm while i am married to it.
i assume in the rave scene in the UK the demographics would be similarly separated?
the hardcore people want their cheesy uplifting sing along vocal fast hardcore ; and i like it pure like that.i don't know alot of house fans or whatever that take their music as serious as the hardcore crew takes theirs.. some of the producers are just trying to bridge the gap the wrong way i feel like... but i do think the bridge could be gaped ! the hardcore scene in the US is kind of underground; and we like it like that i think. the elements some of the producers are trying to spread into the hardcore scene; are elements we absolutely despise; musically and the fanbase it brings...i hope that makes a bit more sense.
and besides; if trance sound is so done for; why is freeform viable ?
which makes uk hardcore even more viable honestly...:p
( and i honestly don't like freeform ) uk hardcore just is not that trancy!!!
not fair to say it is just cuz someone is sick of it and it is slightly somewhat similar
ya there were tons of hardcore trance remixes; there are correlations....but UK hardcore has long since cemented itself as it's own entity; which far outshines trance ( is real trance even around anymore?)
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versia
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Posted - 2014/12/08 : 18:32:33
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
I was talking to someone about S3RL today at the Toronto event I was at. And I remember seeing an interview of S3RL on youtube about how he met Kevin Energy and after meeting him he learned so much that he went back and re-worked a lot of his tracks. Well, that honestly didn't last long as a year later he started going downhill for me.
For me his downward slope started with Pika Girl. I just could not stand the overly cheesiness and ridiculous lyrics a good number of his tracks were filled with after that one release. It seemed whatever he learned from Kevin Energy didn't stick around very long, and his tracks severely suffered from that lack of inspiration. I'm actually a bit glad he's gone from hardcore.
Just making a note, it was Sharkey he learnt all the stuff from. He's known Kevin since 2005.
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skankineddie666
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Posted - 2014/12/08 : 20:33:50
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Originally posted by versia:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
I was talking to someone about S3RL today at the Toronto event I was at. And I remember seeing an interview of S3RL on youtube about how he met Kevin Energy and after meeting him he learned so much that he went back and re-worked a lot of his tracks. Well, that honestly didn't last long as a year later he started going downhill for me.
For me his downward slope started with Pika Girl. I just could not stand the overly cheesiness and ridiculous lyrics a good number of his tracks were filled with after that one release. It seemed whatever he learned from Kevin Energy didn't stick around very long, and his tracks severely suffered from that lack of inspiration. I'm actually a bit glad he's gone from hardcore.
Just making a note, it was Sharkey he learnt all the stuff from. He's known Kevin since 2005.
That is true, Sharkey was the one that got S3RL going. I remember seeing and interview were S3RL mentioned how Sharkey helped him grow as a musician and he also pushed for "TRANSFORMERS" to be released on Relentless Vinyl. That being said, S3RL also worked with Kevin Energy around 2010ish I believe and there is another interview were he mentions that Kevin taught him a lot about music production.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/12/09 : 14:32:37
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Originally posted by rafferty:
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Originally posted by trippnface:
anybody been following S3rl still? how entirely disappointing. some of the worst music i have heard :/
he completely ditched hardcore and is making sped up bigroom house???
why? he doesn't know everybody hates futureworld?
always BLOWS my mind when an excellent producer starts making sich shit
are they joking? this doesn't just sound bad; it IS bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGKdNjT0YwY
Mate that is a bit harsh your being on Futureworld Recordings. While I don't like S3RLS new track you linked. Futureworld Recordings has some of the best producers in the scene and added a fresh alternative to the same old cheesy shite dated trance riffs been put out by all those down under producers. Time to move with the times. Is no longer 2005. Time to try new things!!
If hardcore ever wants to gain a following from the young generation of ravers in their late teens. It has to stay relevant and using EDM, Big Room and Hardstyle elements in productions to make the music fresh again is what is being done.
Hats off to all the producers making the fresh hardcore sounds. Your the only ones I support!!
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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/12/09 : 14:34:30
I actually like that track more than 90% of his hardcore output. Good for him!
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jordesuvi
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Posted - 2015/01/07 : 22:58:05
After looking at S3RL's new upload to YouTube I did a little bit of research in other comments sections.
Looks like he's coming back to hardcore
http://youtu.be/82iKEIcHVgk
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/01/07 : 23:27:03
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Originally posted by jordesuvi:
After looking at S3RL's new upload to YouTube I did a little bit of research in other comments sections.
Looks like he's coming back to hardcore
http://youtu.be/82iKEIcHVgk
Oh that's good to hear the scene was completely lost in the 6 months that he has been gone...
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Samination
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Posted - 2015/01/08 : 09:28:48
did he ever say he'd stop producing hardcore(-like) tracks? :P
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Mansy
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Posted - 2015/01/08 : 12:52:53
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did he ever say he'd stop producing hardcore(-like) tracks? :P
NO but in his statement he just said he will still produce tracks (hardcore) but wont be labeling it hardcore lr slmething.
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