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djscavenger
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Posted - 2014/12/04 :  23:07:50  Show profile Send a private message  Visit djscavenger's homepage
I'm growing increasingly frustrated with the lack of quality of some of the tracks released week in week out. I'm not talking about the big names but the smaller labels. There is absolutely no quality control at all. Most of the stuff would have never seen a vinyl release 10 years ago.

Just because someone can knock a track together in fruity loops doesn't mean they should release it. I'm not going to name certain labels or artist just go on the weekly trackitdown releases to hear for yourself. Music has never been more accessible and I appreciate that many are self taught but with many of the larger labels no gone (Next generation, Essential platinum, Quosh, Junkbox etc) the problem is more apparent.

Why send out demos when you can make your own label and stick it online. What do other people think of this?


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silver
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Posted - 2014/12/05 :  00:57:44  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage
There is no longer a financial risk to release a track, if you didn't sell 500 vinyls in the past you lost money



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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2014/12/05 :  07:42:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage
It's a major problem to be honest. The hardcore releases on tid and beat port have been absolutely shocking for a long time now. Any decent tunes are made almost impossible to find in a sea of utter shite. Can you imagine the impression that gives to your average music fan who decides to have a browse in the hardcore section - they'll never bother again. Its no wonder the scene is on its knees and struggling to attract new listeners.

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Samination
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Posted - 2014/12/05 :  08:45:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage
TBh I dont mind that someone releases non-QC stuff. But selling them at regular prices is a bit to much.

I've bougth alot of tracks, that sound good but are poorly mastered. I dont personally mind that, but yea they can be a little annoying when playing on high volume


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Samination
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Posted - 2014/12/05 :  08:47:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
It's a major problem to be honest. The hardcore releases on tid and beat port have been absolutely shocking for a long time now. Any decent tunes are made almost impossible to find in a sea of utter shite. Can you imagine the impression that gives to your average music fan who decides to have a browse in the hardcore section - they'll never bother again. Its no wonder the scene is on its knees and struggling to attract new listeners.



IMOdownload was worse, but some of those artists became better and got noticed by others. Just look at DJ Square on here. His early stuff wasn't exactly up to par, but they are now. And if the QC is too tight, it might end up hurting more obscure labels because they have no recognition.


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Edited by - Samination on 2014/12/05 08:47:54
Cyrax
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I completely agree, although I did sign tracks quality wise I was unsure of when I started my label, going forward now though I believe to be sucessful you need a very high standard of quality control.

It's also about the little things aswell like getting the same engineer to master all the tracks on an album so that they have the same balance and volume level.


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danielseven
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Posted - 2014/12/05 :  14:17:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit danielseven's homepage
This is anyway making the DJ job much more interesting. If you reach to find the right tunes to play which nowdays is becoming much more harder, and you don't play too much the already overplayed tunes, you're doing a good job.

Good tunes are still present. You have just to dig them.


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Edited by - danielseven on 2014/12/05 14:18:28
The Stisk
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quote:
Originally posted by danielseven:


Good tunes are still present. You have just to dig them.



Too true! it reminds me of crate digging in record shops in the late 90's to find hidden gems that people rarely played/knew about. God i feel old!!!


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DjZelous
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quote:
Originally posted by The Stisk:
quote:
Originally posted by danielseven:


Good tunes are still present. You have just to dig them.



Too true! it reminds me of crate digging in record shops in the late 90's to find hidden gems that people rarely played/knew about. God i feel old!!!



Dude im 16 and im doing what you where doing in the 90's lol (My soul is old as shit lol)


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Samination
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quote:
Originally posted by DjZelous:
quote:
Originally posted by The Stisk:
quote:
Originally posted by danielseven:


Good tunes are still present. You have just to dig them.



Too true! it reminds me of crate digging in record shops in the late 90's to find hidden gems that people rarely played/knew about. God i feel old!!!



Dude im 16 and im doing what you where doing in the 90's lol (My soul is old as shit lol)




in the 90's, I did the same thing but with video games instead. God damn they where expensive back then (but then the prices in Sweden are still 15-35% higher than US/UK).


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The Stisk
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Posted - 2014/12/07 :  14:59:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Stisk's homepage
Ha! im not that old, only turned 30 this year - just really miss digging through records in shops, not very many places in newcastle sell vinyl let alone hardcore vinyl.

@Samination - i still do this with 80's and 90's video games aswell, had a proper retro game fetish for many years now!


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lurker
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Posted - 2014/12/08 :  08:28:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit lurker's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
It's a major problem to be honest. The hardcore releases on tid and beat port have been absolutely shocking for a long time now.

Speaking of TID, has anyone noticed how much generic minimal techno is getting labeled as hardcore
on there? That struck me as a lot more shocking.


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Vladel
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Ok on Trackitdown i've noticed more and more (epidemic proportions), new releases that are utter dogcrap, low volume/poor mastering and general poor quality have these 5 star ratings usually left by one person so my question is.....

Are low quality producers on dog crap labels just putting out their proverbial spunk tissue efforts out and rating them 5 stars themselves?


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Mansy
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As technology advances it will become an even bigger issue. Anyone can make a track using nothing more than a computer. Eventualy everyone will be able to make tracks on mobile phones (and this has become possible already)

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