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CDJay
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Posted - 2014/12/09 :  08:53:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by versia:
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Look at Fracus' Ravin Eye reviews.


Has a bad review ever been given out in Ravin' Eye?






Probably not; fairly sure Gaz has said before that he'll only feature stuff that either he likes or is strongly convinced others will. It's only one page of A5; the scene still has more than that worth showcasing being released quarterly

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rafferty
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Posted - 2014/12/09 :  09:07:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
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Originally posted by Vladel:
Well to be honest if you look at all of the main FW producers;

Styles - makes as much good as he does crap and to be honest i rarely notice any of his stuff come out
Dougal & Gammer - Dougal doesn't seem to do much without gammer and these two are FAR past their best and the latter while able to make some good stuff, is by far the worst.
Recon - Isn't really part of the scene any more and i don't really notice anything from him either.
Hixxy - By far the most flexible and talented producer of the lot is pretty much dead music wise which is a shame.
Breeze - Do i really have to say anything?

I'm not concerned with the nobodies who make up the rest of them though maybe i missed one or two of note? or maybe not and that's why i missed them. FW is not a patch on HU and it would be an insult to CDjay and the crew to suggest otherwise. When FW was formed, there was a lot of big talk and that's it, all talk. HU has pumped out project after project and i for one am truely grateful.

Edited to add: There's not a single FW producer i would ever want to see on a HU project.




God, what a boring, negative post.

Darren Styles - The best thing that's ever happened to hardcore. I'm not sure i'd even maintain an interest in hardcore if it wasn't for this man. The mix he posted on soundcloud recently is epic. One of they mixes you can listen to all the way through without feeling the need to skip any tracks.

Dougal & Gammer - One of, if not the longest standing partnerships in hardcore. They are still making great music after over a decade of collabs which is an achevment in itself. Dougal, like many before him (Sy for example), obviously can't engineer tracks so relies on gammer for the technical side of things. They compliment each other well. Can always tell the difference between Gammers solo tracks and his collabs with Dougal.

Re-Con - Up there with DS. An extremely talented producer. Isn't part of the scene anymore? If you'd said that 1-2 years ago I might have agreed but he's certainly a lot more active now and making some amazing tunes. For him to still be involved in hardcore says a lot about his passion for the music - he probably makes a shitload more from other genres.

Hixxy - Agreed on this one. I don't think he's made any music since he joined Futureworld - so all in all its been a fairly pointless switch. Hopefully he gets back to making music soon but I'm not holding my breath. A true hardcore ledgend.

Breeze - He certainly doesn't make as much music as the rest of them bar hixxy, which is probably a good thing and most likely his intention when the new Futureworld was born. Have to admit I've been impressed by a couple of his new tunes though. 15 seconds is great and I like the update of sometimes.






Well said mate, I did'nt agree with that post either.


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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/12/11 :  14:28:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
Well to be honest if you look at all of the main FW producers;

Styles - makes as much good as he does crap and to be honest i rarely notice any of his stuff come out
Dougal & Gammer - Dougal doesn't seem to do much without gammer and these two are FAR past their best and the latter while able to make some good stuff, is by far the worst.
Recon - Isn't really part of the scene any more and i don't really notice anything from him either.
Hixxy - By far the most flexible and talented producer of the lot is pretty much dead music wise which is a shame.
Breeze - Do i really have to say anything?

I'm not concerned with the nobodies who make up the rest of them though maybe i missed one or two of note? or maybe not and that's why i missed them. FW is not a patch on HU and it would be an insult to CDjay and the crew to suggest otherwise. When FW was formed, there was a lot of big talk and that's it, all talk. HU has pumped out project after project and i for one am truely grateful.

Edited to add: There's not a single FW producer i would ever want to see on a HU project.



God, what a boring, negative post.

Darren Styles - The best thing that's ever happened to hardcore. I'm not sure i'd even maintain an interest in hardcore if it wasn't for this man. The mix he posted on soundcloud recently is epic. One of they mixes you can listen to all the way through without feeling the need to skip any tracks.

Dougal & Gammer - One of, if not the longest standing partnerships in hardcore. They are still making great music after over a decade of collabs which is an achevment in itself. Dougal, like many before him (Sy for example), obviously can't engineer tracks so relies on gammer for the technical side of things. They compliment each other well. Can always tell the difference between Gammers solo tracks and his collabs with Dougal.

Re-Con - Up there with DS. An extremely talented producer. Isn't part of the scene anymore? If you'd said that 1-2 years ago I might have agreed but he's certainly a lot more active now and making some amazing tunes. For him to still be involved in hardcore says a lot about his passion for the music - he probably makes a shitload more from other genres.

Hixxy - Agreed on this one. I don't think he's made any music since he joined Futureworld - so all in all its been a fairly pointless switch. Hopefully he gets back to making music soon but I'm not holding my breath. A true hardcore ledgend.

Breeze - He certainly doesn't make as much music as the rest of them bar hixxy, which is probably a good thing and most likely his intention when the new Futureworld was born. Have to admit I've been impressed by a couple of his new tunes though. 15 seconds is great and I like the update of sometimes.






Well said mate, I did'nt agree with that post either.


Seconded. Apart from Breeze, those artists are all great, or at least have the potential to be great again.


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Vladel
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Posted - 2014/12/11 :  15:29:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vladel's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Also while Dougal & Gammer don't produce together nearly as much as they used to. Most of the tracks they have done together or separately with other producers in recent years have been their best to date.
Is more about quality than quantity with them these days.

Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
Dougal & Gammer - Monster

Dougal has done some brilliant ones with Chris Fear too.
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder

Your definitely way of the mark with Dougal & Gammer being past their best as producers. Are very much ahead of alot of the pack with their recent tunes.




Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one: Very bland blah blah blah
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away: Utter Dubcore nonsense quite truthfully dreadful.
Dougal & Gammer - Monster: Horrendous dubcore crap
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave: Half decent track ruined by those dreadful vocals
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder: Should have been named Sh****r




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Elliott
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Posted - 2014/12/11 :  17:14:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Vladel:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Also while Dougal & Gammer don't produce together nearly as much as they used to. Most of the tracks they have done together or separately with other producers in recent years have been their best to date.
Is more about quality than quantity with them these days.

Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
Dougal & Gammer - Monster

Dougal has done some brilliant ones with Chris Fear too.
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder

Your definitely way of the mark with Dougal & Gammer being past their best as producers. Are very much ahead of alot of the pack with their recent tunes.




Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one: Very bland blah blah blah
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away: Utter Dubcore nonsense quite truthfully dreadful.
Dougal & Gammer - Monster: Horrendous dubcore crap
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave: Half decent track ruined by those dreadful vocals
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder: Should have been named Sh****r





Also seconded. Dougal & Gammer haven't done anything truly great since Your One and Trust In Me. Burn was a screamer but I'd still rather they went back to their pre-2012 style.


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/12/11 :  17:48:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Also while Dougal & Gammer don't produce together nearly as much as they used to. Most of the tracks they have done together or separately with other producers in recent years have been their best to date.
Is more about quality than quantity with them these days.

Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
Dougal & Gammer - Monster

Dougal has done some brilliant ones with Chris Fear too.
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder

Your definitely way of the mark with Dougal & Gammer being past their best as producers. Are very much ahead of alot of the pack with their recent tunes.




Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one: Very bland blah blah blah
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away: Utter Dubcore nonsense quite truthfully dreadful.
Dougal & Gammer - Monster: Horrendous dubcore crap
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave: Half decent track ruined by those dreadful vocals
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder: Should have been named Sh****r





Also seconded. Dougal & Gammer haven't done anything truly great since Your One and Trust In Me. Burn was a screamer but I'd still rather they went back to their pre-2012 style.






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danielseven
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Posted - 2014/12/13 :  00:13:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit danielseven's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:

Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one: Very bland blah blah blah
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away: Utter Dubcore nonsense quite truthfully dreadful.
Dougal & Gammer - Monster: Horrendous dubcore crap
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave: Half decent track ruined by those dreadful vocals
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder: Should have been named Sh****r



I like all those tracks you listed.



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Edited by - danielseven on 2014/12/13 00:13:16
ninja edit
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Posted - 2014/12/13 :  10:45:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ninja edit's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Also while Dougal & Gammer don't produce together nearly as much as they used to. Most of the tracks they have done together or separately with other producers in recent years have been their best to date.
Is more about quality than quantity with them these days.

Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
Dougal & Gammer - Monster

Dougal has done some brilliant ones with Chris Fear too.
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder

Your definitely way of the mark with Dougal & Gammer being past their best as producers. Are very much ahead of alot of the pack with their recent tunes.




Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one: Very bland blah blah blah
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away: Utter Dubcore nonsense quite truthfully dreadful.
Dougal & Gammer - Monster: Horrendous dubcore crap
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave: Half decent track ruined by those dreadful vocals
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder: Should have been named Sh****r





Also seconded. Dougal & Gammer haven't done anything truly great since Your One and Trust In Me. Burn was a screamer but I'd still rather they went back to their pre-2012 style.




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Posted - 2014/12/14 :  13:17:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Claxton's homepage  Reply with quote
What about the next HTID album released through HU.co.uk?



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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2014/12/14 :  13:39:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Claxton:
What about the next HTID album released through HU.co.uk?



That would be great! Loved the HTID series, although I much preferred the original 2 albums.


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rafferty
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Posted - 2014/12/14 :  14:25:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Vladel:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Also while Dougal & Gammer don't produce together nearly as much as they used to. Most of the tracks they have done together or separately with other producers in recent years have been their best to date.
Is more about quality than quantity with them these days.

Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
Dougal & Gammer - Monster

Dougal has done some brilliant ones with Chris Fear too.
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder

Your definitely way of the mark with Dougal & Gammer being past their best as producers. Are very much ahead of alot of the pack with their recent tunes.




Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one: Very bland blah blah blah
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away: Utter Dubcore nonsense quite truthfully dreadful.
Dougal & Gammer - Monster: Horrendous dubcore crap
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave: Half decent track ruined by those dreadful vocals
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder: Should have been named Sh****r






Vlad you would'nt know a good track if hit you in the face lol.. Just a bitter and twisted jaded halfwit with very poor judgement. I have seen rave crowds go crazy to every single one of those tunes and I know you could'nt make a track as good as these artists if your life depended on it lol...

You just make me laugh man:)


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rafferty
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Posted - 2014/12/14 :  14:33:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:
quote:
Originally posted by Vladel:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Also while Dougal & Gammer don't produce together nearly as much as they used to. Most of the tracks they have done together or separately with other producers in recent years have been their best to date.
Is more about quality than quantity with them these days.

Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away
Dougal & Gammer - Monster

Dougal has done some brilliant ones with Chris Fear too.
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder

Your definitely way of the mark with Dougal & Gammer being past their best as producers. Are very much ahead of alot of the pack with their recent tunes.




Dougal & Gammer ft Hanna Falkner - The one: Very bland blah blah blah
Dougal & Gammer - Float Away: Utter Dubcore nonsense quite truthfully dreadful.
Dougal & Gammer - Monster: Horrendous dubcore crap
Dougal & Chris Fear - Bring back the rave: Half decent track ruined by those dreadful vocals
Dougal & Chris Fear - Harder: Should have been named Sh****r





Also seconded. Dougal & Gammer haven't done anything truly great since Your One and Trust In Me. Burn was a screamer but I'd still rather they went back to their pre-2012 style.








That is the past guys, and the past aint gonna last. Is like saying why don't we all just go back in time to the days of Hixxy and Sharkeys Toytown.

That era is done and dusted. Why don't you go back to Nokia phone too. That is pretty much how dated the Hardcore you like sounds these days.


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Edited by - rafferty on 2014/12/14 14:43:11



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