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skarr
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In comparison to the htid line up i think it's very poor



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not seen it. but not bothered anyway, only one line up im waiting for and that's westfest which i am 100% coming out of ravin retirement for .Tickets, hotels all booked already :)

sorry i know u dont care about that but it feels like im doin my 1st rave all over again, not been to one in like 6 years lol.


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No idea, what is it?

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Posted - 2015/06/17 :  19:22:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage
Not as appealing as HTID ITS' lineup. And there's no Gammer or Darren Styles, but you know I guess they didn't want to fork over the supposed $12,000 it cost to book Darren, more likely because they couldn't afford it!



Oh, and there's also no freeform, no gabber hardcore djs as far as I can tell, and no DJs that focus on old skool sets, which is a good or bad thing depending on your taste. Give me a moment while i upload the flyers and link it up on here.


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Edited by - latininxtc on 2015/06/17 19:27:44
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is madonna there?

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Posted - 2015/06/17 :  19:47:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage
Alright so uploading pics now. Odd thing I found was they did the bar crawl the first night and instead of having a hardcore opening night, they did a cop-out and are sending you to some dubstep/dnb closing party at Amnesia. I think that is rather upsetting for those who don't even like those genres. And I was wrong classics set there's a night for that. Interesting that Unknown is doing a Quosh classics set. I'd like to see him do a set like that without using anything that Sy was involved with, good luck with that asshole!









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hixxy anythin goes set should be good

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Lineup looks good enough. Styles & Gammer obviously the big difference between this and HTID. Other than that they're remarkably similar. Still think it's a ****ing stupid idea having two overseas events in a scene of this size when most people can only afford one or the other. A sad indication of the small minded pricks running 'the scene'.

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quote:
Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
Still think it's a fucking stupid idea having two overseas events in a scene of this size when most people can only afford one or the other. A sad indication of the small minded pricks running 'the scene'.



True, but what's funny is that Ravers Ibiza could have toppled HTID ITS had they done a better job at their event, and had their egos not gotten the best of them. Those Ravers Ibiza cunts just don't know how to keep their mouths shut and they end up making it worse for themselves, and now they'll be the ones struggling to sell tickets for their event like HTID was last year.

And no there are striking differences in the lineup, there's definitely more variety still at HTID ITS, there's freeform, there's a good gabber hardcore presence with a mystery MOH DJ being there. There's 5 nights of quality lineup, a waterpark party and not a pool party, a yacht party (hopefully a yacht with a proper dancefloor instead of having to deal with rows of seating like Ravers Ibiza), free alcohol with your wristband, and you'll have close to 1600 ravers if the capacity is at 2k. And I'm not seeing as many repeat acts at Magaluf as I'm seeing at Ravers Ibiza either. Seems like Ravers Ibiza is gonna try and shove Outforce and Rescue down everyone's throats.


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Whatever else is happening, I am thrilled to see Mob and Prospect get some support.

I occupy a unique position, where I worry about half qualified producers dedicating any time to hardcore. The mere fact this is a win is a huge f**ing dark mark on the scene for me. Why booking people based on 2008 stature, generally, is more important than the next five years I can't comprehend.

Equally, no one listened to the warnings before the crash, why they will with resultant head injuries is up for debate.

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quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Whatever else is happening, I am thrilled to see Mob and Prospect get some support.

CDJay



I actually like Mob and Prospect. Thankfully Prospect has been gaining a lot of exposure through Lethal Theory, but I think Mob being associated alongside a twat like MC Enemy has been holding him back A LOT. He's produced a lot of good tracks, but I think he needs to work alongside other labels and collab with other producers because I really think he's got more to offer than what he's already produced.

Oh and as far as Mob and Prospect being at HTID ITS and Ravers Ibiza, I only see them booked for one night/set. I don't know whether that written in stone, they could pick up a gig or 2 here and there. When I went in 2012 I think Mob had at least 3 sets, a boat party set, a daytime club set, and a nighttime club set b2b with I think Dougal. He picked up one (or more) when Hixxy missed out due to health issues. Alex Prospect opened up the last night.


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Edited by - latininxtc on 2015/06/18 01:37:51
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Mob and Prospect are both hugely talented and, to date, horrendously underrewarded. We've lost a lot of good producers over the past 9 years, for that exact reason, and I'm petrified of it happening now. Similarly, I hope to see Rescue and Outforce thrive over the coming years; it's well and truly time to encourage and nurture if we have any collective interest in the future of the genre.

Compiling HU7 has been a real eye opener, for me, there's *so* much less out there than there was even 18 months ago.

I think there's room for two overseas events; they're spaced apart and a lot of work goes into them.

Hopefully this year I get to go out and check it ahhhhhht

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ibiza goes hard is all gabba/hardcore/hardstyle http://www.ibizahard.com/

all though crap hardcore thats dead, and don`t get played no where except 2 of the big events


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Edited by - Guest on 2015/06/18 11:55:07
skarr
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Posted - 2015/06/20 :  14:29:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit skarr's homepage
It just makes me wonder how keyes thinks he's gonna fill those huge super clubs with a hardcore line up nice concept but never gonna happen



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they won`t, its uk hardcore in spain, gabba is hardcore, like the rest of europe, hardcore heads can spend months on youtube telling every its uk hardcore



although you would probably just say shoot those mother ****ers


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Edited by - Guest on 2015/06/20 15:17:23
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quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Compiling HU7 has been a real eye opener, for me, there's *so* much less out there than there was even 18 months ago.




Indeed. Good hardcore music (admittedly it's not just hardcore) is getting harder to find these days. I'll just leave this here: https://www.trackitdown.net/track/mat-weasel/basket-kase/hardcore/8416104.html



I think the lull is worse this time than the one in '99.


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