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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/09/09 :  16:18:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Triquatra:

Love nearly all the tracks on this one, but christ that "Suckin' On My Titties" one is irritating...that's nothing against riot and mob - there are some cracking tracks by them on the rest of the cd, but **** me samples like that sound chavvy and irritating. Just felt like it brought the whole tone of the album down a *few* pegs. I'm not going to go down the "PC" route, but I can't see tracks like that helping make hardcore more palatable for female...or mainstage audiences..

"suckin' on my titties like you wanted me"

Sample doesn't even make sense. You're either sucking on boobs for milk, or you've already made it....with a lady, so it's pretty obvious why you would be inhaling nipplage. So why is she surprised someone is attached to her nipples.




I'm a bit surprised that's even on the album. It's a bit dated for such a project. But then again that shouldn't matter. Music Blocks made its way to HU6, and the track was at least 2 years old at the time that happened. I didn't have a problem with that, but a good number of people on here did.

But on to the Titties track. I actually like it, despite the chavy vocals/samples. Overall it's a well-produced track with a lovely bouncy beat, not unlike titties, but what do I know about that department lol. I can't see a track like this turning any woman away, especially when the even more wretched hideously awful track Clit Commander didn't do much to deter women away from hardcore. Not only were the samples on that track far worse, it was also a cheaply produced track and for me it completely ruined an otherwise brilliant mix.


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Vladel
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Yea but clit commander is far less offensive if you have seen and appreciate the film it is sampled from, sucking on my titties has no real artistic origin so is just daft really.

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alstorm
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Posted - 2015/09/09 :  17:34:51  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit alstorm's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:

Love nearly all the tracks on this one, but christ that "Suckin' On My Titties" one is irritating...that's nothing against riot and mob - there are some cracking tracks by them on the rest of the cd, but **** me samples like that sound chavvy and irritating. Just felt like it brought the whole tone of the album down a *few* pegs. I'm not going to go down the "PC" route, but I can't see tracks like that helping make hardcore more palatable for female...or mainstage audiences..

"suckin' on my titties like you wanted me"

Sample doesn't even make sense. You're either sucking on boobs for milk, or you've already made it....with a lady, so it's pretty obvious why you would be inhaling nipplage. So why is she surprised someone is attached to her nipples.




I'm a bit surprised that's even on the album. It's a bit dated for such a project. But then again that shouldn't matter. Music Blocks made its way to HU6, and the track was at least 2 years old at the time that happened. I didn't have a problem with that, but a good number of people on here did.

But on to the Titties track. I actually like it, despite the chavy vocals/samples. Overall it's a well-produced track with a lovely bouncy beat, not unlike titties, but what do I know about that department lol. I can't see a track like this turning any woman away, especially when the even more wretched hideously awful track Clit Commander didn't do much to deter women away from hardcore. Not only were the samples on that track far worse, it was also a cheaply produced track and for me it completely ruined an otherwise brilliant mix.



ha ha .. i love it .. i put it on because I've been playing it since it appeared in my dropbox, and wanted a solid representation of some tracks i have been playing consistently over the last year, along with some fresh stuff.. for me it helped to boost the energy towards the end of the CD, I'm not so sure people would be that bothered by the words, heard worse lyrics and in worse tracks, its the vibe/music that counts ;)


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Samination
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Posted - 2015/09/09 :  18:04:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by alstorm:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:

Love nearly all the tracks on this one, but christ that "Suckin' On My Titties" one is irritating...that's nothing against riot and mob - there are some cracking tracks by them on the rest of the cd, but **** me samples like that sound chavvy and irritating. Just felt like it brought the whole tone of the album down a *few* pegs. I'm not going to go down the "PC" route, but I can't see tracks like that helping make hardcore more palatable for female...or mainstage audiences..

"suckin' on my titties like you wanted me"

Sample doesn't even make sense. You're either sucking on boobs for milk, or you've already made it....with a lady, so it's pretty obvious why you would be inhaling nipplage. So why is she surprised someone is attached to her nipples.




I'm a bit surprised that's even on the album. It's a bit dated for such a project. But then again that shouldn't matter. Music Blocks made its way to HU6, and the track was at least 2 years old at the time that happened. I didn't have a problem with that, but a good number of people on here did.

But on to the Titties track. I actually like it, despite the chavy vocals/samples. Overall it's a well-produced track with a lovely bouncy beat, not unlike titties, but what do I know about that department lol. I can't see a track like this turning any woman away, especially when the even more wretched hideously awful track Clit Commander didn't do much to deter women away from hardcore. Not only were the samples on that track far worse, it was also a cheaply produced track and for me it completely ruined an otherwise brilliant mix.



ha ha .. i love it .. i put it on because I've been playing it since it appeared in my dropbox, and wanted a solid representation of some tracks i have been playing consistently over the last year, along with some fresh stuff.. for me it helped to boost the energy towards the end of the CD, I'm not so sure people would be that bothered by the words, heard worse lyrics and in worse tracks, its the vibe/music that counts ;)



Scott Brown - Check the Penis or Crushed Testes come into mind? :)


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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2015/09/09 :  20:39:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by alstorm:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:

Love nearly all the tracks on this one, but christ that "Suckin' On My Titties" one is irritating...that's nothing against riot and mob - there are some cracking tracks by them on the rest of the cd, but **** me samples like that sound chavvy and irritating. Just felt like it brought the whole tone of the album down a *few* pegs. I'm not going to go down the "PC" route, but I can't see tracks like that helping make hardcore more palatable for female...or mainstage audiences..

"suckin' on my titties like you wanted me"

Sample doesn't even make sense. You're either sucking on boobs for milk, or you've already made it....with a lady, so it's pretty obvious why you would be inhaling nipplage. So why is she surprised someone is attached to her nipples.




I'm a bit surprised that's even on the album. It's a bit dated for such a project. But then again that shouldn't matter. Music Blocks made its way to HU6, and the track was at least 2 years old at the time that happened. I didn't have a problem with that, but a good number of people on here did.

But on to the Titties track. I actually like it, despite the chavy vocals/samples. Overall it's a well-produced track with a lovely bouncy beat, not unlike titties, but what do I know about that department lol. I can't see a track like this turning any woman away, especially when the even more wretched hideously awful track Clit Commander didn't do much to deter women away from hardcore. Not only were the samples on that track far worse, it was also a cheaply produced track and for me it completely ruined an otherwise brilliant mix.



ha ha .. i love it .. i put it on because I've been playing it since it appeared in my dropbox, and wanted a solid representation of some tracks i have been playing consistently over the last year, along with some fresh stuff.. for me it helped to boost the energy towards the end of the CD, I'm not so sure people would be that bothered by the words, heard worse lyrics and in worse tracks, its the vibe/music that counts ;)



Just like to say your and shimamura's cd is amazing on this Al. Been listening on repeat since I got it -10/10. Best mix I've heard in a while.




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alstorm
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Posted - 2015/09/10 :  10:51:40  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit alstorm's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by alstorm:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:

Love nearly all the tracks on this one, but christ that "Suckin' On My Titties" one is irritating...that's nothing against riot and mob - there are some cracking tracks by them on the rest of the cd, but **** me samples like that sound chavvy and irritating. Just felt like it brought the whole tone of the album down a *few* pegs. I'm not going to go down the "PC" route, but I can't see tracks like that helping make hardcore more palatable for female...or mainstage audiences..

"suckin' on my titties like you wanted me"

Sample doesn't even make sense. You're either sucking on boobs for milk, or you've already made it....with a lady, so it's pretty obvious why you would be inhaling nipplage. So why is she surprised someone is attached to her nipples.




I'm a bit surprised that's even on the album. It's a bit dated for such a project. But then again that shouldn't matter. Music Blocks made its way to HU6, and the track was at least 2 years old at the time that happened. I didn't have a problem with that, but a good number of people on here did.

But on to the Titties track. I actually like it, despite the chavy vocals/samples. Overall it's a well-produced track with a lovely bouncy beat, not unlike titties, but what do I know about that department lol. I can't see a track like this turning any woman away, especially when the even more wretched hideously awful track Clit Commander didn't do much to deter women away from hardcore. Not only were the samples on that track far worse, it was also a cheaply produced track and for me it completely ruined an otherwise brilliant mix.



ha ha .. i love it .. i put it on because I've been playing it since it appeared in my dropbox, and wanted a solid representation of some tracks i have been playing consistently over the last year, along with some fresh stuff.. for me it helped to boost the energy towards the end of the CD, I'm not so sure people would be that bothered by the words, heard worse lyrics and in worse tracks, its the vibe/music that counts ;)



Scott Brown - Check the Penis or Crushed Testes come into mind? :)



haha but .. the tracks themselves are still superb ;)



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Hehe.


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway.

Sooooo, sneaky prying question alert! Are the days of Happy, Harder, Freeform, 3 cd layouts behind us now? Just wondering why the format has been dropped!


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Now the HU series is the only "upfront" UK Hardcore compilation left, turning over entire discs to substyles that are either less than active (breaks) seperatist (freeform) doesn't seem the way to go. We're still planning HU Breaks 2, and I reckon the freeform scene is doing a decent job of putting out dedicated CDs.

If anything we're harking back to HU1-3, but with a broader representation of the scene from top to tail.

*Personally* I prefer having variety showcased in each mix, rather than segmenting it off. If people want a "purist" breaks or freeform release they're still catered for elsewhere

As for the reasoning behind going from 4 CDs to 3... it's largely down to international posting. We already lose money on posting outside the UK, but can manage it better as long as a parcel doesn't include more than 2 triple CDs (or a triple CD, a double CD and a single CD, etc) we can send it as a large letter rather than a parcel, which helps a lot. Quad CDs automatically knock us into parcel, which means we're paying ?9.40 as a starting rate and an additional ?2.40 per 250g increment. Large letter seems to actually reflect weight within these brackets, as well as having a slightly lower starting rate.

It also theoretically helps with per track earnings; if we could sell the same number of units as HU4/Presents 2010 they'd actually be pretty damned good under this model. This would, unfortunately, involve the UK scene being a bit more lively and every artist/camp represented on the project to shout about it. Which, as I'm sure most have noticed, isn't even kind of happening. Heh.

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seperatist (freeform)
CDJay



This makes me think of Stars Wars, it's like all the Freeform crew have been sent to Mustafa waiting there before a dark lord comes and murders them all


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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrax:
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
seperatist (freeform)
CDJay



This makes me think of Stars Wars, it's like all the Freeform crew have been sent to Mustafa waiting there before a dark lord comes and murders them all




in all fairness, I am getting a bigger "get off my lawn" vibe from freeformists than I get from hardcore listeners lately


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Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrax:
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
seperatist (freeform)
CDJay



This makes me think of Stars Wars, it's like all the Freeform crew have been sent to Mustafa waiting there before a dark lord comes and murders them all




in all fairness, I am getting a bigger "get off my lawn" vibe from freeformists than I get from hardcore listeners lately




I don't know what that means :)



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quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Now the HU series is the only "upfront" UK Hardcore compilation left, turning over entire discs to substyles that are either less than active (breaks) seperatist (freeform) doesn't seem the way to go. We're still planning HU Breaks 2, and I reckon the freeform scene is doing a decent job of putting out dedicated CDs.

If anything we're harking back to HU1-3, but with a broader representation of the scene from top to tail.

*Personally* I prefer having variety showcased in each mix, rather than segmenting it off. If people want a "purist" breaks or freeform release they're still catered for elsewhere

As for the reasoning behind going from 4 CDs to 3... it's largely down to international posting. We already lose money on posting outside the UK, but can manage it better as long as a parcel doesn't include more than 2 triple CDs (or a triple CD, a double CD and a single CD, etc) we can send it as a large letter rather than a parcel, which helps a lot. Quad CDs automatically knock us into parcel, which means we're paying ?9.40 as a starting rate and an additional ?2.40 per 250g increment. Large letter seems to actually reflect weight within these brackets, as well as having a slightly lower starting rate.

It also theoretically helps with per track earnings; if we could sell the same number of units as HU4/Presents 2010 they'd actually be pretty damned good under this model. This would, unfortunately, involve the UK scene being a bit more lively and every artist/camp represented on the project to shout about it. Which, as I'm sure most have noticed, isn't even kind of happening. Heh.

CDJay



we are getting 1 less beautiful hardcore cd that elevates my spirit; because of posting economics!?
brb; becoming international politician


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Probably be getting a lot less CDs; I'd focus on hardcore politics first.

I still actually can't believe not one top tier DJ featured on this album has mentioned it over the past few weeks. Unreal.

So, so, very incomprehensible.

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Posted - 2015/09/10 :  16:18:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Probably be getting a lot less CDs; I'd focus on hardcore politics first.

I still actually can't believe not one top tier DJ featured on this album has mentioned it over the past few weeks. Unreal.

So, so, very incomprehensible.

CDJay



That's because they're complete douchebags who are only in it for themselves. Any mention of them trying to unite the scene is a load of shit.

Find it equally amusing the MC that will be on during Fracus and Darwin's set isn't bothering to promote the album at all, even if he isn't on there his good buddy MOB is.


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Edited by - latininxtc on 2015/09/10 16:25:01
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Posted - 2015/09/10 :  16:31:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
Wait, what?

they haven't been pimping HU7? Or blu the roof?



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