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FingazMc
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Posted - 2001/07/15 :  06:59:08  Show profile Send a private message  Visit FingazMc's homepage
U no when djs do covers of songs do they have to pay the original artists for example hey jude by the beatles i think it woz vibes who covered it but if he did he must of had to pay a fortune! but ive noticed sumthin in most songs they change 1 or 2 words does that stop them having to pay??thanx!!

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last i heard, producers rarely get permission to do cover, so i would say that the answer is no.

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quote:
Originally posted by mc-stylee:
U no when djs do covers of songs do they have to pay the original artists for example hey jude by the beatles i think it woz vibes who covered it but if he did he must of had to pay a fortune! but ive noticed sumthin in most songs they change 1 or 2 words does that stop them having to pay??thanx!!



In short no... If you use the exact same words as another song you "should" pay for the orginial artist the publishing rights to the song (most of the money), if you change a few words then that song is no longer published under the orginal artist and thus you don't have to pay publishing. If you sample the orginal song and the orginal owner of the recording wants to sue you then yes you have to pay big time :)



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FingazMc
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Posted - 2001/07/15 :  10:27:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit FingazMc's homepage
has anybody in the hardcore buisness ever been sued

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Mostly likely, probally not actually sued but told to hand over all profits from the release.



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Wasn't Hixxy sued by those pricks that did "Spaceman"??? Im sure he was, there was a minor sized article in the newspaper.

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Harsh man

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nah they sumtimes have 2 pay but depends but i do no 1 thing those geezers who did spaceman sued this dj t was in the newspaper ages ago my m8s gona hav a record out dont no wot its called but it is phat oh n head down 2 ikon in newcastle in 4 weeks time on the saturday its gona b phat we gota gig (the unkown jojo,dj evil n me mc magic there my dj buddies )we got this wikid set n if u r gona go let me known of any requests u want n another thing we got this mix but aint got a name 4 it u got any sugestions keep ravin clubbin drinkin n cumin 2 my gigs oh n does any one ere like children of the night that is so phat its played in time n roller world 24/7 k got that peep cya love unkown jojo dj evil n me mc magic cya peeps xxx

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that was a really long sentance.

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The choon WAS "Spaceman" - on the flip it had a very bad, but extremly funny mix of Wigfield's "Saturday Night"

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Posted - 2001/08/08 :  04:50:30  Show profile  Send a private message
I seem to recall drama's when the song Excalibur came out.

I can't remember what the fuss was about but what I *think* happened is that there was a song made very similar to excalibur and it never got cleared by some label (or maybe by the orchestra they sampled) so it never got released commercially. Then along came the tune excalibur and it was given the go-ahead and became the massively popular one everyone knows.

I could be way off the mark, but I remember someone telling me this ages ago, they also said that the tune before excalibur was better.

Does anyone know the truth? Am I making shit up?



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I remember around this time people used to record the BBC when classical stuff was on, make tunes... naughty naughty!



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actually, i thought the people who did the original raving im raving did in fact get sued by the original artist (walking in memphis - marc cohn)

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They have to get permission but prob not always have to pay!

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Posted - 2001/08/08 :  22:09:32  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage
Here is the deal:

If you live in the US you can copyright song lyrics, but in no other country can you do this. Thus you can get a new vocalist to sing the same song and not get into trouble BUT the record label that releases the song has to pay publishing rights to the orginial artist that wrote the song, this is exactly why hardcore producers change the words on tunes so they don't have to pay it.


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