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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/10/02 : 16:35:58
Styles and gammer will never be respected outside the scene while they are trying to copy everything else, best off just being hardcore and being known for that I'd say.
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jordesuvi
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Posted - 2015/10/02 : 16:53:20
quote: Originally posted by trippnface:
"i suppose using happy hardcore as the blanket term for our music does make more sense. i am just very used to distinguishing happy vs UK in the US cuz everyone is pretty genre dumb and you have to be very specific. at the same time though we can't call shit from 95 "happy hardcore" ; then call some 2006 shit "happy hardcore" then call his new trap crap " happy hardcore. it does not work,"
Meh, I rarely, if ever hear a trap based hardcore track anymore. I think it was just a tiny experimental phase some producers went through.
quote: Originally posted by trippnface:
"who cares if other people do not like hardcore? is that not the point?"
In Gammer's words:
"We don't seem to get that much hate... what we don't really get is acceptance - and I can understand why. When people hear the music and its 170 BPM, four to the floor, and its really flipping fast and crazy... people listen and just say, "I'm not really sure about that."
"And that's what Happy Hardcore is all about! It's like the most outright rebellious genre standing in rave because its neither trendy nor socially acceptable. That's the honest beauty in it that I wouldn't change for the world."
quote: Originally posted by trippnface:
"i don't understand this huge identity crisis and multiple personality disorder hardcore has. seriously. no other rave genre has this many problems constantly trying to reinvent itself. why? there is nothing wrong with hardcore or the people that listen to it."
It could have easily been resolved.
Happy Hardcore for the 90's sound
UK Hardcore for mid-2000's Squad-E sounding stuff
Hardcore Rave for the recent evolution of hardcore.
However, I believe YouTube music promoters, nanobii and Vau Boy are factors here. They've all labeled the music as happy hardcore and since it's a pretty easy way to describe the music, it's a term that's going to stick around and it does work as a great umbrella term.
Sure, elitists within the genre will title a hardcore track under whatever specific sub-genre they want but to everyone outside of the genre it will be happy hardcore.
Since that is literally what the genre is, happy and hardcore.
It's the same way someone might not know the difference between Euphoric Hardstyle and Rawstyle.
Or the same way someone might not know the difference between Progressive House and Trance.
The list goes on, etc.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2015/10/02 : 17:39:53
quote: Originally posted by Samination:
quote: Originally posted by a2:
quote: Originally posted by Vladel:tyles and gammer can't bring new folk to the scene because they are too removed from it, the best thing they could for hardcore is leave and make some commercial shit that is what they are trying to turn hardcore into.
not only them, 90% uk/happy hardcore today sounds like 170 bpm house/pop/trap tracks
very sad
then you know nothing Jon Snow!
mthfkr got stabbed!!!
tune in next time !
hahaha
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trippnface
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Posted - 2015/10/02 : 17:42:21
i really enjoy all of your insights. i might sound like a bitch but this is one of the few places i can have a serious discussion on hardcore with people i know love it as much as i do :p <3
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Vladel
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Posted - 2015/10/04 : 19:09:40
What i want to know is if he is going to punch anyone in the face that won't call it happy hardcore
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