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AoS_Lorenzo
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 Posted - 2015/12/17 : 14:22:02
The original purpose they gave the other 4 was for attending their events(eventually gave away the rest after time). Keep that in mind!
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Samination
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 14:35:41
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Originally posted by AoS_Lorenzo:
The original purpose they gave the other 4 was for attending their events(eventually gave away the rest after time). Keep that in mind!
Still, the only way to purchase the tracks afterwords is to hope that someone pirates it. I don't know HU's stand on piracy on limited stock (I know Thumpa's stand). but when it's sold out or never repressed again, I rather condone the ones who never managed to get it during it's original run. If they complain after that, they're just being pissy or a bunch of hypocrits (*waves at thumpa*).
End of story; If it really was about the music, they shouldn't complain that people pirate it after it's sold out (forever).
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 16:20:56
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by AoS_Lorenzo:
The original purpose they gave the other 4 was for attending their events(eventually gave away the rest after time). Keep that in mind!
Still, the only way to purchase the tracks afterwords is to hope that someone pirates it. I don't know HU's stand on piracy on limited stock (I know Thumpa's stand). but when it's sold out or never repressed again, I rather condone the ones who never managed to get it during it's original run. If they complain after that, they're just being pissy or a bunch of hypocrits (*waves at thumpa*).
End of story; If it really was about the music, they shouldn't complain that people pirate it after it's sold out (forever).
Can you not manage to turn every conversation into a piracy conversation just because you're so proud to do it?
First off, you're not purchasing anything when you pirate it, you're stealing it.
Second, AFAIK the only time HU complained, publicly or otherwise, about piracy was when Little Man, Big Fight was already up for piracy a few days after shipment.
http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk/store/product/id/57
I think Gaz was the one who was publicly upset about it, and it wasn't just that it was pirated so quickly, it's that this album was a non-profit album in that all profits will go to the Caring For Kian Foundation. And it's not even sold out yet, there are still some available at 5 quid less than what it was originally sold for.
And finally, what upsets Thumpa the most is that just like the Little Man, Big Fight album, his albums were already up for pirating days after he shipped them. There's no such thing as common sense, morals and ethics to those who put up albums for download or to freely listen to. They don't keep up with album sales off of sites like the HU store to make sure they're ready to put it up for free after they're completely sold out. And even then, some artist albums like all of Fracus & Darwin's are eventually put up for digital purchase so that negates the "it's already sold out" argument on your part.
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arpz
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 16:39:39
Just because something is limited edition doesn't make it right to pirate it, I'm all for the limited stuff, provided I can actually get hold of it and it irritates me if it becomes repressed or pirated because that takes away some of the 'prestige' of actually owning it.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 17:48:38
Y'all should probably consider waiting until after Christmas and new years in case HU decides to have a sale to make any purchases!
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trippnface
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 18:04:08
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by AoS_Lorenzo:
The original purpose they gave the other 4 was for attending their events(eventually gave away the rest after time). Keep that in mind!
Still, the only way to purchase the tracks afterwords is to hope that someone pirates it. I don't know HU's stand on piracy on limited stock (I know Thumpa's stand). but when it's sold out or never repressed again, I rather condone the ones who never managed to get it during it's original run. If they complain after that, they're just being pissy or a bunch of hypocrits (*waves at thumpa*).
End of story; If it really was about the music, they shouldn't complain that people pirate it after it's sold out (forever).
lets all be real; if this sold out; and someone wanted the tracks; they will get them people.
end of story ;)
and i mean when it sells out; and there is no digital; what more could you ask for or expect of them?
deny a hardcore junkie his fix and feel the wrath!
i kinda feel like HU just doesnt give a **** and this was some end of the year promotional last cd sale buy up deal anyways; and they are hopefully stacking tons of HU work for the very close 2016 ;) which we will all buy
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Samination
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 19:58:12
Or they are waiting for some gobsmack buying the album(s) for 2 million like that unreleased Wu Tang album :P
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Guest
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 22:35:02
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dont need a facebook account, i deleted mine 5 years ago, if it actually has something decent on, it will end up on a forum anyway
Was it you terrorising the USH Facebook page, under the name Barry Badman?
ush`s page was dead anyway, pissing on dogs on acid was better, its just aload of middleclass nerds who aint never done acid http://www.dogsonacid.com/
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djDMS
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Posted - 2015/12/17 : 23:04:55
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Originally posted by arpz:
Just because something is limited edition doesn't make it right to pirate it, I'm all for the limited stuff, provided I can actually get hold of it and it irritates me if it becomes repressed or pirated because that takes away some of the 'prestige' of actually owning it.
Exactly.
If there's something I can't get it's tough shit. Won't go out and get it illegally.
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2015/12/18 : 00:17:42
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Originally posted by Guest:
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by Guest:
dont need a facebook account, i deleted mine 5 years ago, if it actually has something decent on, it will end up on a forum anyway
Was it you terrorising the USH Facebook page, under the name Barry Badman?
ush`s page was dead anyway, pissing on dogs on acid was better, its just aload of middleclass nerds who aint never done acid http://www.dogsonacid.com/
Not quite the question I asked, but cheers anyway.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/12/18 : 15:25:02
Looks like it'll sell out faster than expected! About half spoken for!
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Alexbturbo
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Posted - 2015/12/18 : 17:00:21
I'm not on FaceAche, so had it not been for this thread I wouldn't have even known they were running this promo :( Still, now that I know, I've chucked an order in for a couple of bits I've been meaning to pick up this year so hopefully i'll get one of the EP's :) I'll have to order the other gaps in the back cat next year when I've got more funds available.
On a side note, how long has FaceAche been running a massive whiteout "Sign Up / Login" page that covers the entire front page and prevents you from viewing it? As I just tried viewing the HU page an reading the post on the EP, but as soon as you scroll down even a small amount the entire page / text gets covered by the whiteout "Login / Sign Up" screen. I assume this is FaceAche's way of trying to force more users to sign up?
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CDJay
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Posted - 2015/12/18 : 17:45:35
I had intended to post something about it here, but things have been really hectic on all fronts. Also, normally, I'd have posted it in General Hardcore but I was fairly sure it would get moved.
We really don't want to punish early adopters, it's just a little gimmick to get people to perhaps take a chance on something they otherwise might not. Last year we did the store sampler, this year we thought we'd resurrect the EP series.
We could only get the CDs delivered end of this week, so it made sense to tie it in with Xmas (the EP comes in a separate envelope so people will *hopefully* wait until the 25th to open it)
People who've ordered everything, can email or DM/PM here or on FB and we'll send it out separately.
Previously the EPs were essentially a way to get out some stuff that had been lying around, this time it's more bootleggy and therefore we wouldn't sell. If people want to pirate that after the fact, then more power to them as we wouldn't sell it anyway.
We're just doing what we can to generate as many sales for as many active artists in the scene so people keep writing. 
Looking at the results, it's safe to say that it tipped a fair number of people over the edge for Diversions/Albums Sessions 4/Dedicated. Which is great.
I'll hold a few back for fetishists who miss out for whatever reason, we always look after our core customers both home and abroad!
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arpz
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Posted - 2015/12/18 : 18:31:55
<3 Have a good new year dude :)
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2015/12/18 : 18:33:59
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Stuff
I've just bought HU7 to complete the collection. Chuck us as many freebies as you like!
Love, Paul Bradley
(Because I'm only Captain Triceps on here...)
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