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Hardcore: Slump or Surge? (new blog)

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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  07:30:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
Christian, you're alive!

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Claxton
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  11:25:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Claxton's homepage  Reply with quote
He's back from the dead!



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Cyrax
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  14:41:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Cyrax's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Claxton:

Here is a HTID line-up from Summer Gathering in 2004:

Hixxy b2b DJ Sy, Darren Styles, Re-Con, UFO b2b Breeze, CLSM,
Sharkey b2b Kevin Energy, M Zone, Druid, Gammer, G Spencer, Mark Ashley,
K Komplex b2b AMS, Ham, In Effect & Uplift




What a phat line-up!



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_Jay_
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  20:38:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit _Jay_'s homepage  Reply with quote


Christian's back!!!!!!!!!! :-) Best news ever.



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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  20:50:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
... HU HQ is moving after ten years. My uncontained rage issues may taper or subside!

(If everyone plays nice )

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latininxtc
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  21:19:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
... HU HQ is moving after ten years. My uncontained rage issues may taper or subside!

(If everyone plays nice )

CDJay



moving to a more spacious place? Different city?


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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  21:49:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
It doesn't involve driving to and dealing with a lock up daily; storage on site. Main media room, studio and office all massively better. Leased line for resiliency. Either it works or not. I've loss lead and supported the wider scene so long at no small personal cost.

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Edited by - CDJay on 2016/01/06 22:36:12
Warnman
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Posted - 2016/01/06 :  23:24:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Where the FCUK have you been??!?!?!?! :o



Hello Jacek, helloo DMS, hello Jay and hello to all the other members of this forum!
I totally blush for the kind words that you and others have posted in the past months I simply was not aware about being missed at all!
I have been busy with my work - of course - and I was facing huge problems regarding my health for many months, but unfortunately no doctor had found the reason for my suffering. At the moment I feel much better and gladly noticed that Hardcore hasn't died at all and that you and others are still part of the scene. Keep on raving, my friends! Hardcore unites!


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Edited by - Warnman on 2016/01/06 23:28:12
Ravemark
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Posted - 2016/01/07 :  01:33:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ravemark's homepage  Reply with quote
Production wise there is definitely a surge. Some of the new Hardcore producers comming through are unbelievable and there are so many of them. I'm not sure if it is because they were born in the computer age or maybe just the fact it is much more affordable to set up a home studio these days.
But there are definitely very exciting things ahead whatever your preferred style.
The bar seems to have lifted and more competitive than ever.


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Posted - 2016/01/07 :  18:24:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
Been on Spotify today and I had a bit of an idea. Some of TWR songs have Radio Mixes, so here's some comparisons of plays between them and original mixes.

Knight In Shining Armour:
Radio: 53,290
Original: 14,712

Mind Your Sex (just clipped version of original):
Radio: 6,750
Original: 4,988

Rest of Your Life (Da Tweekaz Remix)
Radio: 269,791
Original: 76,110

You & I (Da Tweekaz Remix)
Radio: 272,000
Original: 67,616

Without You (FW)
Radio: 15,944
Original: 7334

Never Forget You (FW)
Radio: 68,420
Original: 8,210

Sure Feels Good (AATW)
Radio: 580,349
Original: 9,165

Save Me (AATW(?))
Radio: 371,014
Original: 1,352

Come Running (AATW(?))
Radio: 776,936
Original: 7,020

[Even Mixed tracks seemed to perform well against original mixes]
Tripod - D&G
Mixed: 10,992
Original: <1000

Monster (D&G)
Mixed: 24,466
Original: 10,519

Cameras Ready (Chris Fear)
Mixed: 2,789
Original: <1000

Future Fuzz (Gammer)
Mixed: 5,645
Original: 4,661

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I think there's a case here.


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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/07 :  19:16:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
Certainly looks that way!

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Claxton
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Posted - 2016/01/07 :  23:08:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Claxton's homepage  Reply with quote
You're putting your point across is a very UnElipton fashion. You're almost rational and dignified.

It suites you :)




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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/08 :  00:23:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
Does this suite come with rose petals, lavender pillow spray and mood music?

Amazing what an e can do. He's Ebeneezer Goode .

CDJay


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Edited by - CDJay on 2016/01/08 00:28:06
Claxton
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Posted - 2016/01/08 :  01:37:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Claxton's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Does this suite come with rose petals, lavender pillow spray and mood music?

Amazing what an e can do. He's Ebeneezer Goode .

CDJay



Second spelling mistake that I've been pulled up on in two days. I'm having a nightmare.


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Entity
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Posted - 2016/01/08 :  02:12:27  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Entity's homepage  Reply with quote
I've skim-read the article and the posts on here, so may have missed a few facts. IMO, As a "die-hard", I think the word "surge" is totally inappropriate. Why? you may or may not ask. I clearly remember the massive dip towards the end of the '90's, but yet, with appropriate pushing, marketing and, I dare-say, a certain Slammin' Vinyl Hixxy mix jump-started the ol' horse and things got popular again. Magazine reviews, TV advertised albums (that weren't loaded with artist/label or even mono/fake mixes), were springing up, and all was good.

And now? I think HU may put the odd album out for retail - I have no idea. What happened to the last Clubland? Things have moved on, and hardcore isn't really of any significance for the bigger names to pump out albums like they used to.

When it comes to making music, yes, there are absolutely AAA top-drawer producers out there. There are also others that can whack a totally shit tune online for sale, and the owners of such sites (not naming names) don't care, because their passion has gone, and will happily take 50% of each sale.

As for events... I think HTID USA showed the UK how it should be done (American/Canadian Raves are the way ahead!) There isn't enough new interest with the same DJ's spinning the same songs over here. I don't think anybody dare argue with me when I say that the number of people coming into hardcore is dwindling and people are going elsewhere. People get older. It is NOT. PHYSICALLY. POSSIBLE. to bring in the numbers that you could in the 90's. I'm still dabbling in UK/happy hardcore, because it's a long-standing passion of mine, and I hope it sticks around...but it won't ever be the same.

Feel free to argue.



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Edited by - Entity on 2016/01/08 02:14:58



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