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Knightmare
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Posted - 2003/05/09 :  09:32:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Knightmare's homepage  Reply with quote
I'm telling you, It would be cool 4 a while, but afterworse the exclusivity would be totaly destroyed. It happened to (happy) hardcore around here (Belgium and holland) and afterworse the scene was totaly occupied by faking wannabee's and the trax got a little cheesy as well as more and more "amature" producers started to release trax.
I'm warning you, DON'T DO IT! Think of the long term effect and don't make me go through another hardcore devestation again.

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rood
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Posted - 2003/05/12 :  04:15:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rood's homepage  Reply with quote
In Holland there were a lot of HHC tracks in the charts in about 1995, may I name: Charlie Lownoise and Mental Theo, DJ Paul Elstak, Dune. All the good oldfashioned HHC.

Nowadays hardhouse is a hype.

Dana, Warmduscher, JDA, Neophyte, Bass D & King Matthew. That's real Hardcore!


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weba_d
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Posted - 2003/05/12 :  05:42:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit weba_d's homepage  Reply with quote
Im pretty definitly sure it will never reach the charts, the only thing that resembeld hard dance music over here in the charts was Scooter -"Logical song" and "Nessega" (what ever the spelling)

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Posted - 2003/05/12 :  05:48:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Exhile's homepage  Reply with quote
You cant tell me you think hard house rules in holland.

Me thinks you mean trance

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BM
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Posted - 2003/05/12 :  16:39:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
I for sure hope that Hardcore doesn't go commercial out here in the states. I think the scene will be full of kids who listen to pop music. : O Oh yea...Disney already used "Follow The Sun" for one of their commercials for a show. Damn, Disney...just a bunch of copy cats and thieves.

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silver
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Posted - 2003/05/12 :  20:25:06  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by BM:
Disney already used "Follow The Sun" for one of their commercials for a show. Damn, Disney...just a bunch of copy cats and thieves.



What are you talking about? Disney would have paid ALOT of money to the artists and copyright holders to play that track on TV. You can't say that hardcore has not copied tracks either...

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rood
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Posted - 2003/05/13 :  09:41:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rood's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Hoekzema:
You cant tell me you think hard house rules in holland.

Me thinks you mean trance

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Dj Frankus



Well DJ Frankus, it definitely does :)
Frankus Hoekzema, that even sounds Dutch.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but there lots and lots of hardhouse partys all over the country. And that is definetly not the Underground.



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strychnine
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Posted - 2003/05/13 :  15:59:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit strychnine's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by weba_d:
Im pretty definitly sure it will never reach the charts, the only thing that resembeld hard dance music over here in the charts was Scooter -"Logical song" and "Nessega" ...


It's spelt with a "J".

Oh, and you forgot to mention all the hardcore tracks that charted and/or got some serious airplay on Sydney stations back in the mid-late 90's, like "Forever Young", "1, 2, 3, 4", "Tic Toc", "Here's Johnny", "I Can't Stop Raving" etc etc. Even "Shooting Star" got a lot of airplay but never charted cuz we couldn't buy it on CD.

Personally, I've got my feet firmly planted in the "If you like it then listen to it, who gives a flying f*** who else listens" camp.

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toxic
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Posted - 2003/05/13 :  19:33:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit toxic's homepage  Reply with quote
Joins strychnine camp

LOL

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BM
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Posted - 2003/05/13 :  20:48:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
I agree with you, Silver, there is a bunch of copying goin' on when it comes to Hardcore. But to say if Disney ever paid up for using Follow The Sun is unknown. All I know is what I saw and heard ON the Disney channel. And sure enough it was Triple J's version of the song. I have this thing against Disney becuase of how they ripped off Lion King from an anime called "Kimba the White Lion"...but, whatever....

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Posted - 2003/05/13 :  21:30:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit virus's homepage  Reply with quote
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never charted cuz we couldn't buy it on CD.


the fact that there was no music video would have also hindered it's chances


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ruzkin
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Posted - 2003/05/15 :  21:22:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
I've never seen a hardcore track in the charts, but it couldn't do any harm... Hardcore is totally unknown in Canberra atleast, and being able to go to a rave here rather than having to travel to Sydney would be nice once in a while...



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DjNova
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Posted - 2003/05/18 :  17:43:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
Nah man hardcore cant go on the charts becoz the charts SUCK!

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silver
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Posted - 2003/05/18 :  18:24:16  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
All music played anywhere someone is paying for, this includes radio and TV. I can guarantee Disney paid the copyright holders.

Second point: Hardcore has copied so many other things as virus will also agree :) I don't think it unfair for them to copy us now, promotes hardcore doesn't it.

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Comet
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Posted - 2003/05/18 :  18:56:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Comet's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by silver:
All music played anywhere someone is paying for, this includes radio and TV. I can guarantee Disney paid the copyright holders.



You KNOW they have the money for that.. ;)

It stull makes me shudder when I remember that commercial... I swaer they only chose that song because it was on DDR. It's the EXACT same version as on DDR. The 90's in the Shade Remix. I bet you that.

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