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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  11:24:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
ROFL, KEnneth after who or waht? :P



I think Sharkey came up with it, ironic reference to silly subgenre names and the like.

Anyway, call the modern stuff what you want. I'll call it happy hardcore when it sounds like happy hardcore.


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kotu
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  12:35:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit kotu's homepage  Reply with quote
But Freeform is clearly a better name than Kenneth

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arpz
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  13:33:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit arpz's homepage  Reply with quote
Freeform Barlow

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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  14:40:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
Anyway, call the modern stuff what you want. I'll call it happy hardcore when it sounds like happy hardcore.



My thoughts exactly.

I've described the music as 'Hardcore rave' or 'Hardcore dance' for a long long time - ironically when explaining it to people who ignorantly say 'oh, you listen to Happy Hardcore'?


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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  15:04:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
people who ignorantly say 'oh, you listen to Happy Hardcore'?



This is the sort of thing that pisses me right off. I played Serious Evil Shit Mission 3 once at work, and got told to "get this happy hardcore shit turned off". I played Awesome 3 - Don't Go. The supervisor (she listened to nothing but commercial dubstep and D&B, by the way) said: "I like the piano part but the rest just sounds like happy hardcore". I felt like pounding my head against a wall.
Another guy, thought he was a bigshot DJ because he played in town centre nightclubs and saw himself as the music oracle. Blandest taste in music you could imagine. If it wasn't in the charts or at least popular enough to play up town, then it was automatically "shite", before he'd even listened to it. Constantly belittled my taste in music (I listen to many, many genres). I asked him to name one Darren Styles track, since he knows so much. "Ultrabeat" was his answer. Genuinely thought I listened to Basshunter and Flip and Fill because "they are happy hardcore".
I occasionally got a few actual happy hardcore tracks over the system. And what did the manager say? "I didn't know people still listened to acid house"!
All of this in the last 5 years or so, so it wasn't like it was early UK hardcore or anything.


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arpz
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  15:22:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit arpz's homepage  Reply with quote
one of my colleagues called it 'Happy Go Hardcore' once and I went a bit mental, now he's realised it pisses me off so he does it every time it gets mentioned.





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latininxtc
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  16:23:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by arpz:
one of my colleagues called it 'Happy Go Hardcore' once and I went a bit mental, now he's realised it pisses me off so he does it every time it gets mentioned.







Sounds like something I would do!


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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  16:23:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
I have mates who are into music such as hip hop, heavy metal, progressive trance, etc.
If I was to call them something different, like R&B for hip hop, hard house for trance, and so on, they'd bite my head off.
"But oh, it's only happy hardcore, the joke of the music world, even though I can't name a single record or producer apart from Hixxy - Shooting Star. Why do you call this freeform? Or gabber? It's happy hardcore, can't you tell?"

I sound angry, but I'm really not...


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ViolonC
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  18:10:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ViolonC's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
I've described the music as 'Hardcore rave' or 'Hardcore dance' for a long long time - ironically when explaining it to people who ignorantly say 'oh, you listen to Happy Hardcore'?



Most people don't care about you deep techstep genre. They have broad categories for music they don't specialize in and that's it. If you think Richard Wagner did classical music you'd be as dead wrong as what you complained about. Being ignorant can go both ways.


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Edited by - ViolonC on 2016/06/07 18:11:29
Samination
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  18:31:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
I'd gladly call it happy hardcore as long as people would understand what it could be. In Sweden, and at work to boot, if I ever mention mys music, they just think it's 99% drugs and 1% alcohol :P

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ViolonC
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Posted - 2016/06/07 :  21:19:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ViolonC's homepage  Reply with quote
You could be into Metal. Then its 99% alcohol an 1% drugs.

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trippnface
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Posted - 2016/06/08 :  19:30:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
I'd gladly call it happy hardcore as long as people would understand what it could be. In Sweden, and at work to boot, if I ever mention mys music, they just think it's 99% drugs and 1% alcohol :P



lol!


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Elliott
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Posted - 2016/06/10 :  16:09:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
The funny thing is that Gammer's "happy" hardcore is just about the least happy that hardcore has been since 1995.

quote:
Originally posted by Si Thompson:
This is what I see it as..

Acid House - 1987-1990
Hardcore - 1990-1992
Jungle/Breakbeat Hardcore 1993-1995
Happy Hardcore - 1995-1999
UK Hardcore 1999/00 -


Agree but for me 2012 onwards is a different era. I don't want the responsibility of thinking of a title because I'd just call it "shit 170bpm EDM masquerading as UK hardcore" and that's not very catchy.

quote:
Originally posted by ViolonC:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
I've described the music as 'Hardcore rave' or 'Hardcore dance' for a long long time - ironically when explaining it to people who ignorantly say 'oh, you listen to Happy Hardcore'?



Most people don't care about you deep techstep genre. They have broad categories for music they don't specialize in and that's it. If you think Richard Wagner did classical music you'd be as dead wrong as what you complained about. Being ignorant can go both ways.


This. The number of people who still call ALL electronic music "techno" is hard to believe/deal with though.


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Edited by - Elliott on 2016/06/10 16:12:06
Anarchy Breed
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Posted - 2016/06/16 :  15:26:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Anarchy Breed's homepage  Reply with quote
I've never really been a fan of the name "UK Hardcore", it's not just a UK thing is it? Even back when the name was first really adopted ('00+) there have been artists from all over making it...

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ViolonC
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Posted - 2016/06/16 :  15:48:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ViolonC's homepage  Reply with quote
The Name likely had been adopted in the wake of UK Garage or French House and alike. With the majority of artist in the UK is seemed fitting i guess. But unsurprisingly foreign artist (and crowds) didn't pick up on it that much except to market it in the UK.

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