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Mickey Init
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Posted - 2016/11/21 : 08:54:25
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote: Originally posted by skarr:
Apparently keyes has put a stop to storn, whizzkid and squad e playing at uproar.
And here was me thinking that Storm is the 'governing force' in hardcore lol.
I heard Storm was putting a stop to Uproar.
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skarr
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Posted - 2016/11/22 : 20:38:47
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote: Originally posted by skarr:
Apparently keyes has put a stop to storn, whizzkid and squad e playing at uproar.
And here was me thinking that Storm is the 'governing force' in hardcore lol.
Already had this conversation, not gonna get into it again, I'm surprised whizzkid is taking orders off keyes though, maybe he is more involved in their nasty little group than we originally knew, and just isn't as public about it.
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Posted - 2016/11/22 : 20:45:21
quote: Originally posted by skarr:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote: Originally posted by skarr:
Apparently keyes has put a stop to storn, whizzkid and squad e playing at uproar.
And here was me thinking that Storm is the 'governing force' in hardcore lol.
Already had this conversation, not gonna get into it again, I'm surprised whizzkid is taking orders off keyes though, maybe he is more involved in their nasty little group than we originally knew, and just isn't as public about it.
Like that prick Juntao from Rush Hour.
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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/11/22 : 22:31:32
As someone very much in and out of the loop, like Schrodinger cat mk5, I can say with assurance that any nasty little group is not actually directly related to Keyes. I get the same thing, as I was Nostradamus (infallibly) on USH and am yet to be forgiven.
The lone reason we haven't folded and fled genre is that new link. Whatever has come prior, wherever associations exist, you're barking at the wrong tree stump. Change is problematic; the best way to stave it off is referential glory and division of effective competition. It's now over. Merit, ideas and execution *will* win. Whatever past-derived new setbacks to us occur in the present short term.... they will not endure.
Even today I see the gilded thrones set out with no seat afforded, as per, whilst we scrambled to make the wider scene durable and relevant. Until now I would have felt excluded, undermined, amd compromised. Today I see entitled princesses getting new heels when a hike is looming. Good luck to them.
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arpz
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Posted - 2016/11/22 : 22:40:37
quote: Originally posted by CDJay:
As someone very much in and put of the loop, like Schrodinger cat mk5, I can say with assurance that a nasty little group is not actually directly related to Keyes. I get the same thing, as I was Nostradamus (infallibly) on USH and am yet to be forgiven.
The lone reason we haven't folded and fled genre is that new link. Whatever has come prior, wherever associations exist, you're barking at the wrong tree stump. Change is problematic; the best way to stave it off is referential glory and division of effective competition. It's now over. Merit, ideas and execution *will* win. Whatever short term past-derived new setbacks present in the short term the will not endure.
Even today I see the gilded thrones set out with no seat afforded, as we scrambled to make the wider scene durable and relevant. Until now I would have felt excluded, undermined, amd compromised. Today I see entitled princesses getting new heels when a hike is looming. Good luck to them.
CDJay
If the link is good for 'the scene' as a whole then it's all good but you can't really blame people for casting aspersions using the only information that's available to them. Unfortunately, because precisely no one ever want to specify anything concrete, all that's left in the mind of anyone 'not in the know' is an image of people cutting whichever deal suits them at the time and then claiming it's going to be the making of the genre.
I hope it is
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Mickey Init
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Posted - 2016/11/22 : 23:10:23
CDJay, what's your favourite book (or top 3, even) and do you have a favourite author?
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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 00:51:17
Quite partial to Mitch Rapp, and increasingly thinking that attitudes portrayed are more likely effective than the hippy love parade so far offered.
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skarr
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 14:59:07
quote: Originally posted by CDJay:
As someone very much in and out of the loop, like Schrodinger cat mk5, I can say with assurance that any nasty little group is not actually directly related to Keyes. I get the same thing, as I was Nostradamus (infallibly) on USH and am yet to be forgiven.
The lone reason we haven't folded and fled genre is that new link. Whatever has come prior, wherever associations exist, you're barking at the wrong tree stump. Change is problematic; the best way to stave it off is referential glory and division of effective competition. It's now over. Merit, ideas and execution *will* win. Whatever past-derived new setbacks to us occur in the present short term.... they will not endure.
Even today I see the gilded thrones set out with no seat afforded, as per, whilst we scrambled to make the wider scene durable and relevant. Until now I would have felt excluded, undermined, amd compromised. Today I see entitled princesses getting new heels when a hike is looming. Good luck to them.
CDJay
Sorry but I have no idea what your talking about, are you trying to say that keyes hasn't put a stop to whizz storm and squad playing uproar?
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 15:29:23
quote: Originally posted by skarr:
Sorry but I have no idea what your talking about
Haha! I sometimes wish this site had a CDJay>plain English translate feature.
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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 15:50:41
I have no idea about that, all I know is that where the established order have literally run things into the ground both Ravers Reunited and Hardcore Underground are 10 years deep and have had to fight tooth and nail for every victory. They've grown even as everything else tanked.
Part of the genius of the establishment is preserving divides as it stops any genuine competition emerging; and as you can likely sense from my heated tone I got wind of yet another HU-Exclusion-Power-Play yesterday and am *so* *SO* very tired of it.
I/We have RELENTLESSLY tried to work for the wider scene, with the wider scene, and no matter how many times that is thrown back in our face we keep on truckin'.
With a HH album due for release in under a fortnight, I have no idea how we end up excluded from these things by default; I'd object a lot less if I thought anyone was offering up useful ideas or alternatives.
Bleugh? Bleugh.
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skarr
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 15:59:04
quote: Originally posted by CDJay:
I have no idea about that, all I know is that where the established order have literally run things into the ground both Ravers Reunited and Hardcore Underground are 10 years deep and have had to fight tooth and nail for every victory. They've grown even as everything else tanked.
Part of the genius of the establishment is preserving divides as it stops any genuine competition emerging; and as you can likely sense from my heated tone I got wind of yet another HU-Exclusion-Power-Play yesterday and am *so* *SO* very tired of it.
I/We have RELENTLESSLY tried to work for the wider scene, with the wider scene, and no matter how many times that is thrown back in our face we keep on truckin'.
With a HH album due for release in under a fortnight, I have no idea how we end up excluded from these things by default; I'd object a lot less if I thought anyone was offering up useful ideas or alternatives.
Bleugh? Bleugh.
CDJay
What's is it your excluded from ? As the 'rogue squad' seem to be doing alright.
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 16:11:43
It will all become clear; expect hooj international things to happen with zero HU involvement (even though we lead the international scene for years, back when it "didn't matter", and F&D were "only big in Japan", and selling tens of thousands of CDs worldwide)
Meh.
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 16:22:02
I hope one day someone writes a massive expos? about it all
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Mickey Init
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Posted - 2016/11/23 : 17:38:48
Who owns Uproar now then?
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skarr
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Posted - 2016/11/25 : 13:01:04
quote: Originally posted by CDJay:
It will all become clear; expect hooj international things to happen with zero HU involvement (even though we lead the international scene for years, back when it "didn't matter", and F&D were "only big in Japan", and selling tens of thousands of CDs worldwide)
Meh.
CDJay
How can hu be getting left out of things when f&d are calling themselves 'the rogue squad', that's just crazy., surely no one would ignore them with a name like that, makes them sound well 'ard.
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