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Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,503 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2017/12/12 : 14:11:12
There, I said it. Hard House is harder than Hardcore.
How so? How can anything be bigger and faster than the might HC?
Well you have this:
and then you have this:
I will let the music do the talking...
So yes, after all these years we have been saying it (someone once said it back in 2007) that Hard House is actually ahead of Hardcore in the level of hardness!
I mean does this modern Trancy-Dubstepy-Trappy sounding popcore really sound like Hardcore should be? All of tis Dubstep/Trap stuff (or Crap I call it) is no where near the level that Hardcore used to be. It sounds like the stuff that young Jeremy Corbyn supporters will listen to while rolling on 'Mandy' while in the next room you have some serious Hard House going on.
The new Hard House, Future Hard House is serious business at the moment and it has more ties to traditional Hardcore than anything else bar new Breakbeat and some Gabber!
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,661 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2017/12/12 : 17:16:46
Easy. What Styles & Gammer makes now is NOT hardcore.
You can call a hot dog a hamburger, but people will just tell you to **** off... ( Well.. I guess they need to know the difference between a hamburger and a hot dog first, which some of these music noobs seem incapable of distinguishing)
Genres are real. so very real. Artists that pretend genre's dont exist are whacked out. Artists that pretend their creativity is more important than what genre it is, are whacked out.
Hard house is NOT harder than actual hardcore smoogie.
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Captain Triceps Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,210 posts Joined: Dec, 2011
Posted - 2017/12/12 : 18:39:31
Yep. You can't just handpick a couple of tracks for reference.
I'm sure, if I could be arsed, I could track down some hard house with light poky kicks and decide that was the pinnacle hardness of the entire genre.
Yes, you like hard house, more than modern hardcore. That is fair enough. But face it, mate - no-one fucking cares.
PecheyTheLizard Average Member
United States
172 posts Joined: Apr, 2016
Posted - 2017/12/12 : 19:26:50
Bigger and faster?
Wot.....
Considering most hard house is 145-155BPMs and is a genre that has been kicked under the couch for years AND you keep sharing early tracks that have no revelance to modern production standards I HIGHLY doubt hard house is any bit harder than modern UK Hardcore or even EARLIER happy hardcore.
There's a reason hard house is a very distant relative from hardcore. Repetetive but still following the 4x4 beats. I may like it, but don't even say hard house is harder than UK/Happy Hardcore ever again lol.
djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2017/12/12 : 20:01:28
I'm sure you're sitting there, furiously wanking yourself to death loving the attention gained by yet another oh so hilarious trollfest.
Hard house isn't harder than Hardcore, and your shit examples don't prove your point at all.
But you fail to notice, realise - or even care that you're totally wrong.
Repeating the same words over and over doesn't make you right, it just makes you look like a twat.
Don't be a twat.
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Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,503 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2017/12/13 : 06:44:51
quote:Originally posted by PecheyTheLizard:
Bigger and faster?
Wot.....
Considering most hard house is 145-155BPMs and is a genre that has been kicked under the couch for years AND you keep sharing early tracks that have no revelance to modern production standards I HIGHLY doubt hard house is any bit harder than modern UK Hardcore or even EARLIER happy hardcore.
There's a reason hard house is a very distant relative from hardcore. Repetetive but still following the 4x4 beats. I may like it, but don't even say hard house is harder than UK/Happy Hardcore ever again lol.
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,503 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2017/12/13 : 06:47:31
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
I'm sure you're sitting there, furiously wanking yourself to death loving the attention gained by yet another oh so hilarious trollfest.
Hard house isn't harder than Hardcore, and your shit examples don't prove your point at all.
But you fail to notice, realise - or even care that you're totally wrong.
Repeating the same words over and over doesn't make you right, it just makes you look like a twat.
Mickey Init Advanced Member
United Kingdom
770 posts Joined: Oct, 2012
Posted - 2017/12/13 : 11:18:20
I might believe you if there was an accompanying sims video. Also, what?s Had Hose?
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Mickey Init on 2017/12/13 11:19:00
PecheyTheLizard Average Member
United States
172 posts Joined: Apr, 2016
Posted - 2017/12/13 : 12:22:50
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by PecheyTheLizard:
Bigger and faster?
Wot.....
Considering most hard house is 145-155BPMs and is a genre that has been kicked under the couch for years AND you keep sharing early tracks that have no revelance to modern production standards I HIGHLY doubt hard house is any bit harder than modern UK Hardcore or even EARLIER happy hardcore.
There's a reason hard house is a very distant relative from hardcore. Repetetive but still following the 4x4 beats. I may like it, but don't even say hard house is harder than UK/Happy Hardcore ever again lol.
That track that I shared was new...
In fact most Hard House that I shared is new!
Wait what??? That is "new" yet it sounds like a ****ing early 2000s. Track.
Pff if thats new then hard house producers need to step up their game!
Vladel Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,525 posts Joined: Feb, 2008
Posted - 2017/12/13 : 12:55:46
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
I'm sure you're sitting there, furiously wanking yourself to death loving the attention gained by yet another oh so hilarious trollfest.
Hard house isn't harder than Hardcore, and your shit examples don't prove your point at all.
But you fail to notice, realise - or even care that you're totally wrong.
Repeating the same words over and over doesn't make you right, it just makes you look like a twat.
Don't be a twat.
No need for that
He?s bang on Smoogie and I?m really sure the only reason you come on here is that there simply isn?t enough people into hard house to make it interesting. Now i know this isn?t your usual rubbish because you have decided to compare it to hardcore thus fitting in this section but you are not really talking about hardcore. You are talking about hard house which makes you look like a twat and you do it knowing no one wants to hear it. That makes you much more than a twat.
Take the advice and hit the road troll.
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Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,503 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2017/12/13 : 15:34:53
quote:Originally posted by PecheyTheLizard:
Wait what??? That is "new" yet it sounds like a ****ing early 2000s. Track.
Pff if thats new then hard house producers need to step up their game!
Hard House is traditional and follows a traditional edge. As I said, there are more ties to traditional Hardcore than most of the new 'Dupstep' type Hardcore that gets pushed out these days.
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,503 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2017/12/13 : 15:37:01
quote:Originally posted by Vladel:
He?s bang on Smoogie and I?m really sure the only reason you come on here is that there simply isn?t enough people into hard house to make it interesting. Now i know this isn?t your usual rubbish because you have decided to compare it to hardcore thus fitting in this section but you are not really talking about hardcore. You are talking about hard house which makes you look like a twat and you do it knowing no one wants to hear it. That makes you much more than a twat.
Take the advice and hit the road troll.
Funny as the last time I shared a mix I actually got some people interested in it.
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