rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/09/10 : 17:05:45
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
He's wrong because he doesn't like the slower tempo? Have a day off!
Loads of people love Hardstyle, loads don't. Isn't that the same with any genre?
I notice you totally ignored his other point about keeping up the tempo with this 'New' sound to attract the harder crowd. What's your opinion on that?
Music can be fast but when it boring and using the same old formula for 15 years what is point? Like you listen to all the freeform at the moment. It sounds like shite lol
Is about as Hardcore as a progressive trance and has never evolved. Maybe that is why nobody buys it anymore.
But you are right about loads of people liking Hardstyle .Adrenalize just got a million plays on spotify. There is a reason it is a bigger scene than the rest of the Hard Dance scenes put together.
It is evolving and a much better quality produced genre.
I'm sensing that maybe you guys feel threatened by a change for the better that you can't stop.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/09/10 : 17:15:27
muthafukn sprinky bringin the real sound of future hardcore. now THIS is what a groovin crowd looks like. If only darren and crew were as intuitive as sprinky. This is proper tempo. hardcore ravers want to get hype, not bobble to hardstyle.
Guest Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,511 posts Joined: Feb, 2015
Posted - 2018/09/10 : 21:06:35
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
muthafukn sprinky bringin the real sound of future hardcore. now THIS is what a groovin crowd looks like. If only darren and crew were as intuitive as sprinky. This is proper tempo. hardcore ravers want to get hype, not bobble to hardstyle.
frenchcore is ********, nobody cares about fast shit or dancing
drum |& bass bitches don't rule the world, hardcore was formulated for the needs of the many, and why its at mainstream events like EDC and tomorrowland and ibiza goes hard exists
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djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/09/10 : 23:20:09
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
I'm sensing that maybe you guys feel threatened by a change for the better that you can't stop.
I'm not against change at all.
But (there's always a but)...
If I want to listen to Hardstyle - oh look, there it is! I can speed it up and slow it down to my hearts content.
Nobody is reinventing Hardcore, or changing anything for the better. It just robbing from another in a long list of genres. Influences are great, keeps things interesting. But copy and pasting another genre and banging 10BPM on top isn't progression.
The ONLY time Hardcore has been even slightly original was when Happy Hardcore came about - and even then there was all sorts from other areas.
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/09/11 : 00:24:47
quote:Originally posted by Guest:
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
muthafukn sprinky bringin the real sound of future hardcore. now THIS is what a groovin crowd looks like. If only darren and crew were as intuitive as sprinky. This is proper tempo. hardcore ravers want to get hype, not bobble to hardstyle.
Guest Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,511 posts Joined: Feb, 2015
Posted - 2018/09/11 : 03:09:06
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:Originally posted by Guest:
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
muthafukn sprinky bringin the real sound of future hardcore. now THIS is what a groovin crowd looks like. If only darren and crew were as intuitive as sprinky. This is proper tempo. hardcore ravers want to get hype, not bobble to hardstyle.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,072 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/09/12 : 08:07:31
rafferty is still mad that the sound Breeze tried to fashion into the "next big thing in UK Hardcore" with his last few entries in the Clubland Xtreme series failed.
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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
621 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/09/18 : 10:55:44
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
rafferty is still mad that the sound Breeze tried to fashion into the "next big thing in UK Hardcore" with his last few entries in the Clubland Xtreme series failed.
Actually quite the opposite. Take a good listen to that set of Darren Styles. Breeze paved the way for the edm & Hardstyle takeover in UK Hardcore.
Darren Styles has embraced it and now it is UK Hardcores biggest influences in new productions.
I think you might be mad lol.. Candy is dieing and seen as something only for 7 year old girls these days.
And Trancey Hardcore and Freeform is going the way of the video cassette. Dated and irrelevant. :)
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,072 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/09/19 : 06:31:22
They don't even sound the same.
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DJ Saiyan Average Member
Canada
172 posts Joined: Nov, 2002
Posted - 2018/10/04 : 12:30:42
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
It is not Hardstyle, is Hardcore with EDM & Hardstyle influences. Hardstyle has pretty much killed off Hard Trance and is the biggest Hard Dance genre by a mile at the moment.
So a lot of Hardcore djs are simply getting influences from this genre when producing.
If anything Hardstyle kicks are pretty much how real Hardcore should sound. All the mid to late 90s stuff had similar kicks. So if anything Darren styles is going back to his roots in way.
If he was getting back to his roots he'd be back making breakbeat for Kniteforce.
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,654 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2018/10/04 : 17:39:50
quote:Originally posted by DJ Saiyan:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
It is not Hardstyle, is Hardcore with EDM & Hardstyle influences. Hardstyle has pretty much killed off Hard Trance and is the biggest Hard Dance genre by a mile at the moment.
So a lot of Hardcore djs are simply getting influences from this genre when producing.
If anything Hardstyle kicks are pretty much how real Hardcore should sound. All the mid to late 90s stuff had similar kicks. So if anything Darren styles is going back to his roots in way.
If he was getting back to his roots he'd be back making breakbeat for Kniteforce.
pleeeease? maybe styles just doesn't have any piano rifts left...
I also enjoy old skool at 160 bpm, it sounds much better than hardstyle core (or whatever they are calling it) at hardstyle speed.
Craigavon raver Advanced Member
Ireland
2,207 posts Joined: Sep, 2007
Posted - 2018/10/21 : 19:01:15
And speaking of styles, was on youtube the other day and heard a styles,dougal & gammer track, can't even remember the name, but was on that monstercat you see about on youtube (what ever the hell that is) and it was ****ing awful! absoulute shite if i've ever heard, can't even believe they would make something like that, i think even in the comments someone said it wasn't a styles,dougal & gammer track, and i would seriously hope so by listening to it!
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