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rafferty
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Posted - 2018/09/10 :  15:32:06  Show profile Send a private message
It faster than Hard Trance and Hard House and seems to be getting harder every year. It is starting to make me wonder how much further they can take Hardstyle towards Hardcore before it becomes almost the same genre.

The kick after the breakdown would probably have been classified as Hardcore had it been released in the mid 90s.

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Edited by - rafferty on 2018/09/10 15:35:52
Smoogie
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160 bpm Hard House can be mixed into Hardcore. I done it before but I don't branch into Hardstyle. Not my thing

Hard House is still more Hardcore than Hardcore though even at it's tempo


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Skidzorz
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Both HS and HC have changed pretty significantly in the past 8 years. I was just talking recently about how HC is starting to sound more like Hardstyle, though I guess the opposite could be true. Regardless I'm not liking the sounds/VST's/synths/ whateverthecorrecttermwouldbe that HC producers are using as of late, as it sounds way too much like Hardstyle. I know HC has always been very derivative of other genres since the early 2000's, but the main leads just sound .. Different.

Have been having very frequent seizures as of late and my memory/vocab is pretty ****ed at this point, so I hope people can understand what I mean. But yeah, you're definitely not the only one who has noticed OP, and I'm not digging it all that much.

It's bound to happen though .. Both HS and Gabber have gotten way less "hard" since the mid 2000's. It's hard to imagine a track like Nosferatu's Knockout, or any of the mid 2000's Brennan Heart stuff coming out these days.


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Rafferty, don't kid yourself. This is pure garbage.

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Don't see it myself.

Just because you think or believe something, doesn't make it true.

Starting to sound like Smoogie.


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Skidzorz
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EDIT: For some reason it reposted my post above .. Won't let me delete ?\_(ツ)_/?



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Edited by - Skidzorz on 2018/09/13 17:05:01
rafferty
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Posted - 2018/09/15 :  04:12:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
160 bpm Hard House can be mixed into Hardcore. I done it before but I don't branch into Hardstyle. Not my thing

Hard House is still more Hardcore than Hardcore though even at it's tempo



Not sure what you mean by Hard House is more Hardcore than Hardcore?

I'm guessing you meant to say Hard House is more Hardcore than Hardstyle which is an absolute laugh.

Hard House is the weakest Hard Dance genre on the planet. The kicks are softer and is'nt it a genre that came out of the gay scene? Used to be call Hambag House.

Also Hard House is very disposable, it is a throwaway genre. Very generic with productions. I always thought the bin logo was very appropriate for tidy tracks.

Hardstyle is where it's at. The who culture of the genre is influenced from gabber. From what people wear to the massive Dutch Hardcore Kicks.







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Edited by - rafferty on 2018/09/15 22:08:34
rafferty
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Posted - 2018/09/15 :  04:26:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Don't see it myself.

Just because you think or believe something, doesn't make it true.

Starting to sound like Smoogie.



Enjoy.



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Hardcore and Hardhouse is no match sorry.

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Smoogie
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Posted - 2018/09/15 :  08:34:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage
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Hardcore and Hardhouse is no match sorry.



No because Hard House actually puts out decent tunage while Hardcore is little more than EDM drops these days


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djDMS
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quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Don't see it myself.

Just because you think or believe something, doesn't make it true.

Starting to sound like Smoogie.



Enjoy.





I really like that.




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quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Don't see it myself.

Just because you think or believe something, doesn't make it true.

Starting to sound like Smoogie.



Enjoy.





I really like that.






agreed


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Posted - 2018/09/15 :  20:51:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Guest's homepage
prefer this one, good for a little interlude while you take some photo's =



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Edited by - Guest on 2018/09/15 20:53:16
rafferty
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Posted - 2018/09/15 :  21:42:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
prefer this one, good for a little interlude while you take some photo's =





That is a brilliant tune 👍👍


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Edited by - rafferty on 2018/09/15 22:00:19
rafferty
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Posted - 2018/09/15 :  21:55:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:




I'll be honest that is a lot better than the stuff Lisa Lashes and the Tidy Clowns used to play. It does still surprise me how a lot of UK Hardcore people like Hard House though. Is so club sounding.

Like DJ Brisk, I always think Hard House does not suit him as he always seemed to be someone that liked his beats really Hard. Hardstyle to me sounds more like something he would play when not playing Hardcore.

This reminds me a lot of Brisk



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Edited by - rafferty on 2018/09/15 22:24:57



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