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latininxtc
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 Posted - 2012/01/16 : 13:37:35
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
The first highlighted bit - what? That sentence reeks of arrogance. How do you know how much we talk to Gammer? You apparently don't know him too well considering how personally you're taking this when it wasn't even directed at you.
Agree with everything you just said except this. It smells more like he is trying to be honest, perhaps rather ignorant or innocent but still trying to be honest none the less. It was just written very badly and comes off remarkably tall poppy. I think that is a much more accurate gauge of it then how you read it andy.
I disagree. Neko definitely used it as a reason why he believes he knows Gammer better and why he, and sounds like he's convincing the rest of us to, believe that Gammer's threat is genuine. I'm with Andy on this one. You can't take anything serious from a guy who has pics on his facebook wearing a tube top, skirt and makeup so bad it looks like a parrot exploded on his face lol. I believe yes he was annoyed and just simply vented a little. Like someone said we all do it, and yes it seems rather unprofessional about it, but this isn't something he does routinely, so he's allowed one, or a couple, slip-ups. People are just making a big deal over nothing and saying that he incites violence at raves is ridiculous.
I'm not a "fanboy" as many ppl here are labeling those defending him. I can admit when he's made some great tunes, and when he just comes out with some worthless shit. His style of hardcore doesn't bother me in the least bit whether or not I hate it, because I can always find something out there that I like from a variety of producers.
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 14:00:33
LEAVE GAMMER ALONE!!
I MEAN IT!!!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 14:08:25
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
LEAVE GAMMER ALONE!!
I MEAN IT!!!
lol I saw on TMZ that he's going to be doing gay porn (that guy in the pic NOT Gammer lol)
i lmao'd when I heard that.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 15:07:53
The reason I said it is because everyone is acting like I have no idea what Gammer is like and must be taking it seriously because I don't know him. The truth of the matter is that I do know what he's like because there's a good chance I've talked to him more than the accusers have. That's not arrogant or name dropping or whatever label you want to put on it - it's fact.
I appreciate people trying to defend him, but this isn't about me misunderstanding his intent or his character, this is about the fact that he should know better than to throw threats around that sound serious, because regardless of whether or not he would follow them up, there's hands-down proof he's just encouraged a bunch of other people to be violent - which in hardcore we REALLY don't need.
He's responded with sarcasm, funny pictures and piss-taking before and that's fine - that hasn't encouraged people to punch each other or hit people with bricks, but this status update did and he should know better. End of.
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wong
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 15:46:54
hixxys (light hearted) view on this matter, off facebook
Whilst people are on the topic of
Gammer and his ego, let me tell the
truth about his real ego that he
manages to hide from most of you!!!
You may think he's a nice fellow who
can grow a supurb and spectacular
beard whilst mixing up them tunes like
a demoned but here is an example of
what and who thye real DJ gammer is.
Here is a tiny tiny small bit of gammers
rider for HTID in the sun this year (the
full copy is 18 pages long !!) Chauffer
driven limo
To take Gammer to the airports in UK
and also in Spain - however the driver
cannot have nor be able to grow a
better beard than Gammer.
Private Jet to and from Girona
The jet must be have a flight code/
name called Potato1 or
Gamgambeardo1, they must only serve
caviar, pink champagne and kumquats
on board. All the stewardesss and
pilots MUST have (if they dont already)
full detailed knowledge of Gammers
discography, his accolades and carry a
picture of Gammer at all times and
remind him how great he is. When
coming into Land they must play I
need a hero by Bonnie tyler.
Hotel
Hotel must be a 7* hotel minimum and
Gammer must have the Presidental
suite (once Gammer checks out this
room must then be named Dj
gammers ritzy Glitz Gaff dj gammer
will not charge the hotel for this
honour of using his name.
The Hotel must also replace all photos
and pictures in the hotel to ones of
Gammer either Djin or ones of Gammer
stroking baby animals or playing
chess...... ....... ...... ....... ....... ...... ....... ....... I
hope that gives you some insight to
this evil egotistical man !!!! Plus I see
you've threatened violence now if
people don't like you or your music,
well i'm not scared of you or you're
wobbley bass line tunes !! I'm un-liking
this page !
LOL
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 15:59:01
Yeah don't get me caught up in the "Gammer has a big ego" stuff. I don't care if he does or doesn't have a big ego and personally I don't think he has an ego at all, he's quite a down to earth person. I separate my issues, just because I don't like one thing about a person doesn't mean I'll shit on every other aspect of them.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 16:05:48
funny. I can go around saying "I'm going to hit a jew soon" and get shit for it, but saying "I'm going to hit anyone who complains", and nothing happens?
A threat is a threat, no matter WHO it is aimed for. I'm with Neko here.
Unless Gammer has Tourette's or any other cronic sickness, he is not an exception from rules or laws.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 16:51:19
Who gives a shit. It's just some meaningless comment on a meaningless website.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 16:55:03
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Who gives a shit. It's just some meaningless comment on a meaningless website.
as much as i intend to buy gammer tracks again?
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Breakbeat Jon
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 18:02:03
Don't understand what everybody's moaning about. It's pretty obvious to me Gammers making a deliberatly over the top comment to make point. No difference to Jimmy Carr making a rape joke, it's quite obvious he's going not going to rape anyone, or encourage people to go out raping.
As for the whole dubstep influence thing, i'm sick of boring trance leads and wishy washy vocals. For the last 6 years i've hardly listened to like of Hixxy, Breeze, Styles etc as I found there music to be frank, a new low for hardcore. They seem to have finally got bored of the same old tired thing and made the music in my opinion a lot better, and more interesting, and probably more relevant to new kids getting into it. Just like they did around 2000/2001 when they brought the trance sound in.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 18:14:47
ofcourse hardcore needs to reinvent itself time to time, but do they need to take in something that's a fad?
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Breakbeat Jon
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 18:29:40
I don't really think you can call dub-step a fad, was trance a 'fad'? To be honest this debate would be null and void if DJs had the creativity to mix a bit of everything up in a set, Easygroove or Luna-C style, instead of playing the same style all the way through. As i've said, i'm not a fan of the trancy vocal cheese, but i'm not going to moan about the odd few tunes in a set.
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jenks
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 18:36:39
To be fair, Gammer hasn't exactly adopted the style the way Breeze has. Him and Dougal use sounds from all over the place. Their Summer Gathering CD is great.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 18:45:41
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Originally posted by Breakbeat Jon:
Don't understand what everybody's moaning about. It's pretty obvious to me Gammers making a deliberatly over the top comment to make point. No difference to Jimmy Carr making a rape joke, it's quite obvious he's going not going to rape anyone, or encourage people to go out raping.
Except if you looked at the status update comments you'll see that it DID encourage violence. That's the problem with saying that kind of thing in the hardcore scene, hardcore ravers are much more easily provoked than say, trance. It's bad enough having top deck vs bottom deck fights involving bottles being thrown, people getting punched and all sorts between the dnb and hardcore fans on the coach on the way to westfest, the last thing we need is more fighting between genres, it makes raves completely unsafe to attend and they're pretty dicey already.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/01/16 : 19:15:26
Jon: Well if you're ok with a few vocal trancecore tracks, I could be that with dubstep influenced hardcore too. But not a whole set, and then force it down people throats and say "here, **** off". If facebook existed in 2001 and internet is as big it is today, it would've happened back then too :P
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Gammers getting pretty pissed
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