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Smoogie
It is all some people ever talk about. All day long. For people like me who have no view on it and just want it to be done with I am fed up. On every political page I post on it is 'Brexiteers' against 'Remoaners'
Apprently it is Theresa May's fault. Apprently it is the far right. I actually see it as Labour pissing us around trying to push their way into power but no one else sees that do they?
Yes, if Brexit was the 'B word' then Labour have the 'C word'
Corbyn.
What a nasty group Labour have become since Corbyn became leader. The lies, the bribes and the smears.
Of course who loves Corbyn? That's right, the BBC! They really want Labour elected don't they?
Fu*k that!
They don't like Brexit anyway so use it as a stick to beat the Tories with.
The whole thing is a joke and not a funny one either. I just want David Cameron back and then we can move onto good times without Brexit trying to ruin the Tories to help Corbyn get in.
Just sick of it!
djDMS
You have no view yet you keep making posts about it....
Samination
People with no views -> Keep bashing Corbyn for being slightly "communistic"
Why dont you just move to the US?
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
You have no view yet you keep making posts about it....
I want to vent
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
People with no views -> Keep bashing Corbyn for being slightly "communistic"
Why dont you just move to the US?
Your lucky you don't live in the UK have the threat of Corbyn hanging over you
The drunken scotsman
Posting some old hardcore YouTube vids online should relieve the stress of Brexit.
wong
i hope corbyn gets in just to piss you off
Samination
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
People with no views -> Keep bashing Corbyn for being slightly "communistic"
Why dont you just move to the US?
Your lucky you don't live in the UK have the threat of Corbyn hanging over you
I live in Sweden, we've mostly had people like Corbyn as "prime ministers", so that's why I'm laughing at your brexit right now (that your country's right wing nuts voted through)
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by wong:
i hope corbyn gets in just to piss you off
You would regret that if it ever happened
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
People with no views -> Keep bashing Corbyn for being slightly "communistic"
Why dont you just move to the US?
Your lucky you don't live in the UK have the threat of Corbyn hanging over you
I live in Sweden, we've mostly had people like Corbyn as "prime ministers", so that's why I'm laughing at your brexit right now (that your country's right wing nuts voted through)
We are not Sweden
arpz
Theresa May is to blame for the shambles, had she not called that vanity general election to try and become all-powerful then she'd have a majority that doesn't rely on the DUP.
It does make me laugh when people of the working class, which I assume you belong to, think that the tories are the ones that should be in power. What exactly is it that you're so terrified of about Corbyn? You sound rather frantic about it.
Brexit isn't about party politics, you have people on all sides with different views. But of course Labour will push for a general election, that's their JOB. They are the main opposition party and they have to try to get in power, if they didn't try to use the situation to their advantage then they would be doing their voters a real disservice, don't think for one second that the tories wouldn't be doing the same in this situation.
Unfortunately for you and for everyone else, it really isn't just as simple as 'just get on with it'. Theresa's deal doesn't satisfy the remainers and it doesn't satisfy a large portion of the brexiteers, many of which say that it represents a brexit in name only, that's why she's failed to get it past despite trying three times to do so. It does amuse me that those that say 'just do it' would be totally up in arms about a second referendum but have no qualms at all about having the same vote three times...
I'll leave you with this from Stephen Fry
Triquatra
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
it doesn't satisfy a large portion of the brexiteers, many of which say that it represents a brexit in name only
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
those that say 'just do it' ... have no qualms at all about having the same vote three times...
Bit of contradiction there. You just pointed out how basically nobody wants her deal. Ergo nobody wants to vote on her shit deal, either, least of all three times :P
arpz
quote:Originally posted by Triquatra:
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
it doesn't satisfy a large portion of the brexiteers, many of which say that it represents a brexit in name only
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
those that say 'just do it' ... have no qualms at all about having the same vote three times...
Bit of contradiction there. You just pointed out how basically nobody wants her deal. Ergo nobody wants to vote on her shit deal, either, least of all times times :P
Well it seems like some of the MP's have agreed to it over time because of the wearing down that's taken place. I do see how it's a contradiction though, obviously *some* people do think it's a good deal but it doesn't really satisfying the rabid brexiteers that want out with no deal and it certainly doesn't satisfy remainers. It would probably satisfy the Smoogies of this world though, until they realised what they'd really be getting
TartanTerror2119
i just love watching people lose their minds over this, and how hard the establishment are trying to prevent it
according to official figures i'm the only scot who voted leave apparently everyone else wanted to remain
i highly doubt that
Samination
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
People with no views -> Keep bashing Corbyn for being slightly "communistic"
Why dont you just move to the US?
Your lucky you don't live in the UK have the threat of Corbyn hanging over you
I live in Sweden, we've mostly had people like Corbyn as "prime ministers", so that's why I'm laughing at your brexit right now (that your country's right wing nuts voted through)
We are not Sweden
You surely aren't a functioning country either ;)
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by TartanTerror2119:
i just love watching people lose their minds over this, and how hard the establishment are trying to prevent it
according to official figures i'm the only scot who voted leave apparently everyone else wanted to remain
i highly doubt that
Rumour has it that the whole of Scotland and everyone under 30 in England and Wales voted to remain and everyone else wants a big time hard Brexit
I am actually tempted towards Change UK/ The Independent Group not for their second referendum but because I want a fresh start
djDMS
Quick rundown of my thoughts.
I wouldn't vote for a party of 'traitors' if they were the only choice.
I voted remain and would do so every single time.
But! I don't want another vote or the result reversed. The result should stand despite so many people having no idea what they were voting for.
The delay isn't a bad thing as long as we get a better deal out of it.
Anybody who says 'just leave with no deal and see what happens' has no idea what the consequences might be.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
Quick rundown of my thoughts.
I wouldn't vote for a party of 'traitors' if they were the only choice.
I voted remain and would do so every single time.
But! I don't want another vote or the result reversed. The result should stand despite so many people having no idea what they were voting for.
The delay isn't a bad thing as long as we get a better deal out of it.
Anybody who says 'just leave with no deal and see what happens' has no idea what the consequences might be.
Good points! A lot that I agree with. I am a casual remainer but respect the result of the referendum and think that it should be done properly.
Have a look at Change UK (not change.org) and they seem quite positive at the moment. They are not getting a lot of recognition at the moment as they are still in the process of being registered but they could be the common ground that our country needs right now
TartanTerror2119
leave/remain...either way they'll find some way to screw us, they always do
Jay-Owen
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
Of course who loves Corbyn? That's right, the BBC! They really want Labour elected don't they?
Don't get me wrong: if you don't like Corbyn, fair enough. To each their own. I won't hide that I'm a lifelong Labour supporter, and although I don't agree with Corbyn on everything, I still believe he's the best current option for PM.
But to claim that the BBC (or indeed any major media group other than the Guardian and the Independent) are pro-Corbyn is simply demonstrably not true. The BBC are decidedly centrist and pro-establishment, which at the moment makes them closer to BoJo than Corbyn (although they were very pro-Blair and pro-Blairism in the day). I mean, Panorama did a whole episode on Labour's antisemitism problem recently - they have never covered the Tories' rampant islamophobia with the same vigour.
Samination
Jews: "We can't vote Labour/Corbin because he's said something anti-semitist or a supporter of BDS."
Britain falls out the EU and has a worse crisis than Venezuela
Jews:
Smoogie
I now support Brexit and have no problems leaving without a deal
djDMS
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
djDMS
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
Well, I'm not moaning about it but yes i voted remain.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am....
LeVzi
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
Well, I'm not moaning about it but yes i voted remain.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am....
Well you are, if you want to be governed by unelectable beaurocrats in a different country. Want all your laws set by a different country that cares less about the UK than I do about Hip Hop. Want non stop immigration with zero control over it, want to trade with the rest of the world AS WELL AS the EU. And would you want your kids drafted into the first EU army ? And please don't tell me that will not happen. I could go on n on n on, but you've heard it all before.
I am not gonna argue or debate it, because I do respect the fact you said you'd be happy with honouring the result even though it wasn't the one you voted for, this was the attitude I actually expected after the referendum. What i've seen since is just laughable.
The whole No Deal situation is no where near as damaging as people are talking about, if you think they are not prepared for it, then that blame lies solely at Teresa Mays feet and she should be charged for it. I'd rather see a deal, a new one, which could still happen and may do tbh as the EU are changing their stance thanks to Boris refusing to say he'll avoid a no deal or prologuing parliment. Which is what we should have said from the start.
What Corbyn and Swinson are doing now is technically treason, but Blair made sure those laws got changed didn't he.
I am sick of the whole thing too now tbh, its dominated for too long.
As regards Corbyn, the man is a complete asshat, and would raise taxes across the board to create a new welfare state. He's a true bellend. As is Samination, who can **** off with the far right comment.
Samination
Oh **** off
You're not governed by anyone outside the UK, or by laws created by everyone else. The people YOU voted for either voted for or voted against implementing certain rules in all of the EU. If the majority voted for something, then the ones who voted aginst it have to live with it, or create rules that makes it harder to actually work. That's how unions work, and it's understandable why Scotland wants to leave the UK (because you are the EU in that context).
LeVzi
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
Britain falls out the EU and has a worse crisis than Venezuela
Lay off the drugs!
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Jay-Owen:
they have never covered the Tories' rampant islamophobia with the same vigour.
Oh give over! Islam is an ideology, and by all accounts a barbaric ideology. No ideas or faith should be above critique in a free society. Islam is not a race either, which is what a lot of people forget when throwing around the racist slur.
LeVzi
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
It is, and its dangerous to walk the streets thanks to the "refugees" now, the video's ive seen of the violence there is madness. Yet this asshat calls us far right , I guess he's a raging lefty that stood there with a sign "refugees welcome" in 2015 when it all started.
Samination
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
Sweden isn't more rapie than the UK. We just have a much lower bar when it comes to what gets classified as rape. Which is probably why the "Metoo" movement wasn't as big in Sweden, as we're already Politically Correct as you can get... for the worse.
Levzi: At least one of those "refugee's" got to wreck ASAP Rocky... if it wasn't for his body guards standing in the way
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
Well, I'm not moaning about it but yes i voted remain.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am....
You are no more right or wrong than anyone else who voted leave or remain. Brexit has never been done before so there is no right or wrong answer. There are many different opinions but no one can be right yet.
Even in ten years time we will be arguing over weather it was right or wrong to leave
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
You won't hear about it on the BBC. They keep stuff about that from the UK quiet as well.
The BBC are known for their pro EU bias and are awfully left/ liberal. They hate Johnson but tolerate Corbyn although it is Blair who they truly loved.
As for Sweden the BBC are obsessed with Greta Thunberg. A nice enough girl but the media practically stalk her. I find it a bit creepy.
Now I will say that I am against racism and condemn it but the BBC are also obsessed with BAME representation so much so that a lot of people from BAME communities find it patronizing. LGBT favoritism itself is strong in the BBC. Again there should be nothing wrong with that but the BBC over represent. If you are white, straight, Conservative and perhaps on the leave side of the fence then you are one of the bad guys in their eyes.
The BBC are one of the major culprits in the Brexit divide in this country. Have their ever really given a balanced view on Brexit allowing any airtime to anyone who sees benefits for leaving?
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
You won't hear about it on the BBC. They keep stuff about that from the UK quiet as well.
The BBC are known for their pro EU bias and are awfully left/ liberal. They hate Johnson but tolerate Corbyn although it is Blair who they truly loved.
As for Sweden the BBC are obsessed with Greta Thunberg. A nice enough girl but the media practically stalk her. I find it a bit creepy.
Now I will say that I am against racism and condemn it but the BBC are also obsessed with BAME representation so much so that a lot of people from BAME communities find it patronizing. LGBT favoritism itself is strong in the BBC. Again there should be nothing wrong with that but the BBC over represent. If you are white, straight, Conservative and perhaps on the leave side of the fence then you are one of the bad guys in their eyes.
The BBC are one of the major culprits in the Brexit divide in this country. Have their ever really given a balanced view on Brexit allowing any airtime to anyone who sees benefits for leaving?
I can't stand the BBC. A lefty nonce brigade. They need to abolish the TV License.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
It is, and its dangerous to walk the streets thanks to the "refugees" now, the video's ive seen of the violence there is madness. Yet this asshat calls us far right , I guess he's a raging lefty that stood there with a sign "refugees welcome" in 2015 when it all started.
Even centrists are called 'far right' now. It's the radical left that's the problem.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
I can't stand the BBC. A lefty nonce brigade. They need to abolish the TV License.
I don't own a TV so I do not pay a TV license. They are welcome to come round and check as well. What they have done to the elderly people is disgusting while paying themselves huge salaries.
Why do I want to pay the wages of people like Laura Kuenssberg, John Pienaar and that awful Corbyn lover Ash Sarkar who is all over the place these days?
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
I can't stand the BBC. A lefty nonce brigade. They need to abolish the TV License.
I don't own a TV so I do not pay a TV license. They are welcome to come round and check as well. What they have done to the elderly people is disgusting while paying themselves huge salaries.
Why do I want to pay the wages of people like Laura Kuenssberg, John Pienaar and that awful Corbyn lover Ash Sarkar who is all over the place these days?
Ash Sarkar the communist. Urgh!
Don't even let TV License goons in. Ignore the letters and shut the door on them. They have no powers of entry, and cannot do shit about it.
Triquatra
No TV licence here, either, but we've not heard a peep out of them other than a 2 year confirmation that we still don't need a licence after initially signing the no tv licence required declaration on the Tv licencing website about 5 years ago. They're very welcome to pop around though, there is no antenna on the house, and I've blocked iplayer at the DNS level.
For us though it wasn't so much a hatred for the BBC, it was just that we noticed that nobody was actually watching live tv so it was ?145 a year that could be better spent elsewhere.
LeVzi
quote:Originally posted by Triquatra:
No TV licence here, either, but we've not heard a peep out of them other than a 2 year confirmation that we still don't need a licence after initially signing the no tv licence required declaration on the Tv licencing website about 5 years ago. They're very welcome to pop around though, there is no antenna on the house, and I've blocked iplayer at the DNS level.
For us though it wasn't so much a hatred for the BBC, it was just that we noticed that nobody was actually watching live tv so it was ?145 a year that could be better spent elsewhere.
How do you block Iplayer ? Id do that and cancel my license if I could trust the others in this house not to use it.
Samination
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by Triquatra:
No TV licence here, either, but we've not heard a peep out of them other than a 2 year confirmation that we still don't need a licence after initially signing the no tv licence required declaration on the Tv licencing website about 5 years ago. They're very welcome to pop around though, there is no antenna on the house, and I've blocked iplayer at the DNS level.
For us though it wasn't so much a hatred for the BBC, it was just that we noticed that nobody was actually watching live tv so it was ?145 a year that could be better spent elsewhere.
How do you block Iplayer ? Id do that and cancel my license if I could trust the others in this house not to use it.
Not like that no, that looks as though it involves money - and of that I have none. There are two free ways to do it.
If you want to block anyone using your router use this method (it's been a while since I did it, but here it is in rough from what I remember)
Method One Step One:
First set up a free openDNS account at http://opendns.com and in your account go to web content filtering - set it to "none" (unless you want to filter porn on your router too, in which case you can choose different levels of content filtering)
below that you'll see a place where you can add specific domains to block. For iplayer and youtube ads add these:
that will stop iplaying working and stop the vast majority of youtube ads - it also has the added effect of also blocking images on any bbc site, if that's a site you use it's just something you'll have to put up with.
Step two: (location and wording will be slightly different for each router) Hop into your router settings and go to advanced and then the DNS tab. type the opendns servers as your dns which are 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
and you're done - if you have a dynamic IP you may want to put the opendns program on one of your pcs so it can update opendns if your Ip changes. This is the most surefire way of doing it, as anything that uses your router is unable to use anything iplayer, so any iplayer apps installed on smarttvs or phones that are connected to your router also will not function.
Method Two: (if you want to block iplayer on individual machines quickly and easily) Install adblocker click on advanced and in the section called 'My filter list' add these URL/Code combi's:
I think the wife was a bit weary at the start of cancelling the licence, but then after a bit you just forget about it and it's like it was never there in the first place. The kids couldn't care less and didn't even notice as they were just using the TV for youtube vids anyway.
LeVzi
Nice one thanks. Bye bye BBC
Smoogie
Things are getting out of control now. Corbyn's Momentum mob are now planning a mass protest in a number of cities. Will this end well?
I sense trouble as we all know that Corbyn likes a riot so I predict that things will turn ugly
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
Things are getting out of control now. Corbyn's Momentum mob are now planning a mass protest in a number of cities. Will this end well?
I sense trouble as we all know that Corbyn likes a riot so I predict that things will turn ugly
Haha.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
Things are getting out of control now. Corbyn's Momentum mob are now planning a mass protest in a number of cities. Will this end well?
I sense trouble as we all know that Corbyn likes a riot so I predict that things will turn ugly
Haha.
Corbyn has gone quiet. Losing a lot of supporters is not something to brag about!
djDMS
He could always sack any of his MP's that don't agree with him.
LeVzi
Well Corbyn has taken a remain stance now, and the lib demo Jo Swinson has basically said she is going to just stop brexit all together.
Lets throw democracy out the window all together then, and completely ignore the biggest democratic vote EVER.
How these pieces of shit are in any position of power shows the level of corruption throughout politics.
At least Johnson has said he wants us to honour the vote and actually leave. But I still don't trust him.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
Well Corbyn has taken a remain stance now, and the lib demo Jo Swinson has basically said she is going to just stop brexit all together.
Lets throw democracy out the window all together then, and completely ignore the biggest democratic vote EVER.
How these pieces of shit are in any position of power shows the level of corruption throughout politics.
At least Johnson has said he wants us to honour the vote and actually leave. But I still don't trust him.
Jo Swinson is a ****ing idiot. I had a read through the Lib Dems proposed policies. The first 10 would ruin the country financially straight away.
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