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Smoogie
Anyone else interested in Andrew Neil's GB News?
I am really excited to see that the MSM have something new going against them as lets face it the media are very left wing.
It is about time that we had some journalism that shows balance to all politicians regardless of who they are rather than the abysmal and out of control bias that we get from the BBC that simply attacks the government without giving them a chance to answer and then gets the leader of the opposition unlimited airtime.
I think that this could be the revolution that we need in the media and the fact that the left are already attacking it shows that we could be on to a winner here!
Samination
How the **** can the brittish news media be left-winged when the ****ing Rubert "I own Fox News and Sky Network, bitches" Murdoch owns most of the biggest news outlets in the country?
Edit: I have missed that he's sold his shares in Sky completely in 2018.
Si Thompson
I don't bother with any legacy media. It's for intellectually lazy folk.
If this new network brings some balance back to the spectrum, then that can only be good.
I won't hold my breath, though.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
I don't bother with any legacy media. It's for intellectually lazy folk.
If this new network brings some balance back to the spectrum, then that can only be good.
I won't hold my breath, though.
It cannot be any worse than the BBC though. The left wing bias there is out of control
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
I don't bother with any legacy media. It's for intellectually lazy folk.
If this new network brings some balance back to the spectrum, then that can only be good.
I won't hold my breath, though.
It cannot be any worse than the BBC though. The left wing bias there is out of control
It's infected everywhere!
LeVzi
The left wing have already started to try to stop this new GB news from ever starting.
I caught something about it the other day, about restricting something, wasnt really able to listen properly.
Seems they tried something similar with Sky News once. Although Sky are biased anyway.
The left wing is out of control in the UK now. As in USA too.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
The left wing have already started to try to stop this new GB news from ever starting.
I caught something about it the other day, about restricting something, wasnt really able to listen properly.
Seems they tried something similar with Sky News once. Although Sky are biased anyway.
The left wing is out of control in the UK now. As in USA too.
I have noticed that the Guardian are trying to pick it apart and somehow think that it is going to be 'far right' which is ironic as they are leaning very left wing or at least they support the woke views. If GB News has them rattled then that is a good start I think
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
The left wing is out of control in the UK now. As in USA too.
Absolutely. Expect this to get much worse with education churning out plenty of marxist idiots for the future.
This is a good video. I believe we aren't far off stage 4 of normalisation in the West. We may even be there already.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
The left wing have already started to try to stop this new GB news from ever starting.
I caught something about it the other day, about restricting something, wasnt really able to listen properly.
Seems they tried something similar with Sky News once. Although Sky are biased anyway.
The left wing is out of control in the UK now. As in USA too.
I have noticed that the Guardian are trying to pick it apart and somehow think that it is going to be 'far right' which is ironic as they are leaning very left wing or at least they support the woke views. If GB News has them rattled then that is a good start I think
The Guardian is absolute trash. I wouldn't even wipe my arse with it. It's written by privileged, out of touch, soy latte drinking, metropolitan wankers that have never traveled further than Watford.
Samination
I still wonder why this discussion is happening here? I thought the values behind happy hardcore is far more lefty than you guys ever appear to agree on?
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
I still wonder why this discussion is happening here? I thought the values behind happy hardcore is far more lefty than you guys ever appear to agree on?
I still wonder why you keep commenting in political threads. You are beyond clueless. Conflating far left marxist ideology with Happy Hardcore values. You say some bizarre things but that's pretty out there even for you.
You don't understand political positions, shifts, overton window etc. Stick to your original intention from the US Election thread. Quote below.
Originally posted by Samination:
There's no reasoning with people who live in a country where somehow one or 2 news outlets are considered bigger than Murdoch's empire, so I'll keep away from these political threads, that imho doesn't even belong here in the first place. You got facebook for that shit
Samination
This place would be far much better off without any kind of political discussion. Heck, you've already driven away at least 2 mainstay here with your attitude, and I even heard you had the audacity to ask to become a moderator here...
Not to even mention you attitude for anyone (not only me) trying to help you IDing tracks. I'm also waiting for at least 2 thanks from you, but considering this post here, I doubt I'll ever see a thank you now.
Or you constant topic digging you did a year a go to increase your posting count.
hevan
Seeing someone jump to "far left marxist ideology" just from seeing the word "lefty" then trying to sound like they're politically literate because they were able to list literally the most basic political terms is all the entertainment I needed for day. The irony is not lost on me. Thank you.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
This place would be far much better off without any kind of political discussion. Heck, you've already driven away at least 2 mainstay here with your attitude, and I even heard you had the audacity to ask to become a moderator here...
Not to even mention you attitude for anyone (not only me) trying to help you IDing tracks. I'm also waiting for at least 2 thanks from you, but considering this post here, I doubt I'll ever see a thank you now.
Or you constant topic digging you did a year a go to increase your posting count.
1. That's not my problem. I can't help it that people get hurt feelings over words on the internet.
2. I offered to help. You've already brought this up before in other threads when you're in meltdown.
3. On the rare occasion you manage to ID a track, you have been thanked. Don't tell lies.
4. I used to post random stuff for a laugh, so what? I got bored of doing it.
You were even told in the US Election thread by members that you have no idea what you are talking about. Again, that is true in this thread, but feel free to deflect and moan about me instead of debating your half baked ideas.
If there is one thing I do agree with, it's that it would be better off without political posts, hence me never starting any political threads. You can thank Smoogie for that. But, until there is a ban on them and/or people decide not to start them, I will continue to have conversations in them.
LeVzi
I think there is every right to discuss politics here, it's called general chat, and politics is something that gets discussed a lot.
But there is nothing similar between the left and Happy Hardcore. Rave is an anti-establishment attitude, whole point of it was to get away from all things political. Hardly a left wing view at all.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
whole point of it was to get away from all things political.
Exactly this. It was about people from all walks of life coming together for the music.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
Seeing someone jump to "far left marxist ideology" just from seeing the word "lefty" then trying to sound like they're politically literate because they were able to list literally the most basic political terms is all the entertainment I needed for day. The irony is not lost on me. Thank you.
Yet I'm right, and you make no point whatsoever.
hevan
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
Seeing someone jump to "far left marxist ideology" just from seeing the word "lefty" then trying to sound like they're politically literate because they were able to list literally the most basic political terms is all the entertainment I needed for day. The irony is not lost on me. Thank you.
Yet I'm right, and you make no point whatsoever.
Why are you responding like a hurt 12 year old? Either way, hope your "boohoo I'm so oppressed by the left" role play is going well for you brother. Peace.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
Seeing someone jump to "far left marxist ideology" just from seeing the word "lefty" then trying to sound like they're politically literate because they were able to list literally the most basic political terms is all the entertainment I needed for day. The irony is not lost on me. Thank you.
Yet I'm right, and you make no point whatsoever.
Why are you responding like a hurt 12 year old? Either way, hope your "boohoo I'm so oppressed by the left" role play is going well for you brother. Peace.
Nice strawman you built there. Peace to you too.
Samination
For someone who wants to be always right, I'm still waiting for to show me where I mistakenly called Toy Town for Shooting Star. But I presume you can only end up using jokes to shuffle arguments away.
But I do have to take some things back, but you did give me thanks for one of the ID's I thought you didn't. it was for the freeform (which was makina) id one were the original thread was unanswered, and the other id wasn't even yours
Samination
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
...whole point of it was to get away from all things political.
Ironic that...
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
For someone who wants to be always right, I'm still waiting for to show me where I mistakenly called Toy Town for Shooting Star. But I presume you can only end up using jokes to shuffle arguments away.
But I do have to take some things back, but you did give me thanks for one of the ID's I thought you didn't. it was for the freeform (which was makina) id one were the original thread was unanswered, and the other id wasn't even yours
That was a joke about Shooting Star. I was winding you up.
No worries. Maybe I was a little harsh in my original reply. We're all good.
Samination
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
No worries. Maybe I was a little harsh in my original reply. We're all good.
Except for our political stand points :P
Just to be clear, while I do hate basicaly everything on the right side, I don't like everything on the left side either. But that's the problem. In most countries, no one wants to meet in the middle. It's either very left or very right (and the few times extremely left or extremely right)
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
No worries. Maybe I was a little harsh in my original reply. We're all good.
Except for our political stand points :P
Just to be clear, while I do hate basicaly everything on the right side, I don't like everything on the left side either. But that's the problem. In most countries, no one wants to meet in the middle. It's either very left or very right (and the few times extremely left or extremely right)
As I alluded to earlier, political stand points and positions are shifting under our feet all the time now. It's moving rapid. Left, right and centre are all moving with the current climate. People that would consider themselves left in 1997 are now centre and right. The shift of the overton window towards the far left has thrown everything into disarray politically. It's pushing moderates right. So what you envisage as the old right may actually be you now.
Notice how i didn't mention the far right? Despite the constant perpetuation of it via legacy media. There is no far right with a current foothold in any institution now in the UK/Europe or America (despite that term being bounced around by MSM frivolously). They are small & fringe, driven underground for the most parts. Nobody accepts them. Rightly so. You are right, we shouldn't accept extremism via any form. So why far left extremism is left to flourish, is beyond me.
If you wish to discuss this at length, PM me or grab me on Facebook. I've had a couple from this site message me privately about politics because of how toxic the subject is, and they don't want to post in the threads.
Si Thompson
Double post.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
As I alluded to earlier, political stand points and positions are shifting under our feet all the time now. It's moving rapid. Left, right and centre are all moving with the current climate. People that would consider themselves left in 1997 are now centre and right. The shift of the overton window towards the far left has thrown everything into disarray politically. It's pushing moderates right. So what you envisage as the old right may actually be you now.
Notice how i didn't mention the far right? Despite the constant perpetuation of it via legacy media. There is no far right with a current foothold in any institution now in the UK/Europe or America (despite that term being bounced around by MSM frivolously). They are small & fringe, driven underground for the most parts. Nobody accepts them. Rightly so. You are right, we shouldn't accept extremism via any form. So why far left extremism is left to flourish, is beyond me.
If you wish to discuss this at length, PM me or grab me on Facebook. I've had a couple from this site message me privately about politics because of how toxic the subject is, and they don't want to post in the threads.
Not trying to drag this on but it is my thread so I shall say that one problem with the left is different factions which have hijacked the Labour Party and the media. You have your old style socialists such as Corbyn who lean towards strong nationalisation and union membership which are 'anti establishment' to an extent but you also have their overly liberal and PC woke left who should really be supporting the Green Party but have found their way into every political debate. The whole BLM and Me Too movements are strong with their cancel culture. Modern Labour pander to this with knee bending but it is far from the traditional values of the Labour Party of the past. Sometimes they are 'socialists' but other times they are not.
Old Labour supporters would have been socially Conservative although would have not used that term themselves. It was about supporting the working man and his family but now it is supporting the breakdown of the family values by throwing benefits and chavvy 'baby mamas' and then endorsing the wave three feminism which seems to want to discriminate against men. That is not real Labour but it is what they have become.
The decline happened under Blair and then it went wacky under Corbyn who was clueless in how to keep these characters out of his broken party. The frightening thing is that the BBC are supporting it and are doing everything they can to get Labour elected.
Samination
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
The decline happened under Blair and then it went wacky under Corbyn who was clueless in how to keep these characters out of his broken party. The frightening thing is that the BBC are supporting it and are doing everything they can to get Labour elected.
I guess he was too busy having to defend himself from people call him antisemitic, when he only hated Israel for what they've been doing for the past 10-15 years?
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
As I alluded to earlier, political stand points and positions are shifting under our feet all the time now. It's moving rapid. Left, right and centre are all moving with the current climate. People that would consider themselves left in 1997 are now centre and right. The shift of the overton window towards the far left has thrown everything into disarray politically. It's pushing moderates right. So what you envisage as the old right may actually be you now.
Notice how i didn't mention the far right? Despite the constant perpetuation of it via legacy media. There is no far right with a current foothold in any institution now in the UK/Europe or America (despite that term being bounced around by MSM frivolously). They are small & fringe, driven underground for the most parts. Nobody accepts them. Rightly so. You are right, we shouldn't accept extremism via any form. So why far left extremism is left to flourish, is beyond me.
If you wish to discuss this at length, PM me or grab me on Facebook. I've had a couple from this site message me privately about politics because of how toxic the subject is, and they don't want to post in the threads.
Not trying to drag this on but it is my thread so I shall say that one problem with the left is different factions which have hijacked the Labour Party and the media. You have your old style socialists such as Corbyn who lean towards strong nationalisation and union membership which are 'anti establishment' to an extent but you also have their overly liberal and PC woke left who should really be supporting the Green Party but have found their way into every political debate. The whole BLM and Me Too movements are strong with their cancel culture. Modern Labour pander to this with knee bending but it is far from the traditional values of the Labour Party of the past. Sometimes they are 'socialists' but other times they are not.
Old Labour supporters would have been socially Conservative although would have not used that term themselves. It was about supporting the working man and his family but now it is supporting the breakdown of the family values by throwing benefits and chavvy 'baby mamas' and then endorsing the wave three feminism which seems to want to discriminate against men. That is not real Labour but it is what they have become.
The decline happened under Blair and then it went wacky under Corbyn who was clueless in how to keep these characters out of his broken party. The frightening thing is that the BBC are supporting it and are doing everything they can to get Labour elected.
You make some valid points.
jenks
It's probably going to be some corporate-approved Libertarian shite, but an improvement on the BBC and C4 at least.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by jenks:
It's probably going to be some corporate-approved Libertarian shite, but an improvement on the BBC and C4 at least.
That's what I'm expecting.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
You make some valid points.
I always do!
Samination
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
You make some valid points.
I always do!
Except when you keep calling hard house for hardcore
LeVzi
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
...whole point of it was to get away from all things political.
Ironic that...
Unfortunately rave became political, when politics decided rave had to go. They brought in the criminal justice act to destroy the rave scene, and sanctioned every single event up and down the UK, and put pressure on them until most broke. People getting together and having fun is a no no in the UK now.
The rave scene is fighting back, but look at the response, especially during this pandemic.
Before that I remember the Scum events getting more and more popular, they made the news. So proud of them :)
LeVzi
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
Seeing someone jump to "far left marxist ideology" just from seeing the word "lefty" then trying to sound like they're politically literate because they were able to list literally the most basic political terms is all the entertainment I needed for day. The irony is not lost on me. Thank you.
Yet I'm right, and you make no point whatsoever.
Why are you responding like a hurt 12 year old? Either way, hope your "boohoo I'm so oppressed by the left" role play is going well for you brother. Peace.
Pretty obvious you are a Trudeau fanboy.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
Seeing someone jump to "far left marxist ideology" just from seeing the word "lefty" then trying to sound like they're politically literate because they were able to list literally the most basic political terms is all the entertainment I needed for day. The irony is not lost on me. Thank you.
Yet I'm right, and you make no point whatsoever.
Why are you responding like a hurt 12 year old? Either way, hope your "boohoo I'm so oppressed by the left" role play is going well for you brother. Peace.
Pretty obvious you are a Trudeau fanboy.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
Except when you keep calling hard house for hardcore
Hard House is not Hardcore. It is just harder than Hardcore!
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
Except when you keep calling hard house for hardcore
It is just harder than Hardcore!
It isn't. Hardcore in a lot of cases uses much fatter kicks.
Smoogie
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
It isn't. Hardcore in a lot of cases uses much fatter kicks.
Hardcore has always used much harder kicks but there has been a lot of disappointment as well but I also rate hardness on the effects that are used
hevan
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by hevan:
Seeing someone jump to "far left marxist ideology" just from seeing the word "lefty" then trying to sound like they're politically literate because they were able to list literally the most basic political terms is all the entertainment I needed for day. The irony is not lost on me. Thank you.
Yet I'm right, and you make no point whatsoever.
Why are you responding like a hurt 12 year old? Either way, hope your "boohoo I'm so oppressed by the left" role play is going well for you brother. Peace.
Pretty obvious you are a Trudeau fanboy.
Trudeau can get ****ed.
Si Thompson
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
It isn't. Hardcore in a lot of cases uses much fatter kicks.
but I also rate hardness on the effects that are used
Still doesn't alter my original point.
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