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Si Thompson What a time period for Hardcore. So much variation about around this time.

Guest
Guest can't be 92 without the most listened and known set in the world, mainly for second half after he puked on the decks



from here

Si Thompson
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Originally posted by Guest:




That came out the summer of 1993.
Samination you expect guest to give a ****? :P
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by Samination:
you expect guest to give a ****? :P



Don't even know who he is.
Mickey Init It?s all about 1998!
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
It?s all about 1998!



One of my favourite Happy Hardcore years, even though Hardcore was steadily on the decline.
LeVzi
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
It?s all about 1998!



Awful year for Hardcore, utter shit cheese releases from all labels. Glad I bailed in 1997/8 NYE even though I kept listening to the music and bought tape packs. WHen they got so unlistenable I stopped completely.
Guest
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:

That came out the summer of 1993.



the EP came out in 93, the white label, and remixes are from 92, or some of them are, probably find them on universe tapes
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
It?s all about 1998!



Awful year for Hardcore, utter shit cheese releases from all labels. Glad I bailed in 1997/8 NYE even though I kept listening to the music and bought tape packs. WHen they got so unlistenable I stopped completely.



That's your opinion. Loads of tracks I liked in 1998. The scene was slipping, though.
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by Guest:
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:

That came out the summer of 1993.



the EP came out in 93, the white label, and remixes are from 92, or some of them are, probably find them on universe tapes



Interesting, cos it says the remixes are '93 on Discogs
https://www.discogs.com/Orca-4AM-The-Remixes-The-Original/release/210844


I really like the remixes on that release.
Si Thompson Fack it. I'm gonna make this a thread.


Here's some more goodness from the golden era of rave music.
















LeVzi
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
It?s all about 1998!



Awful year for Hardcore, utter shit cheese releases from all labels. Glad I bailed in 1997/8 NYE even though I kept listening to the music and bought tape packs. WHen they got so unlistenable I stopped completely.



That's your opinion. Loads of tracks I liked in 1998. The scene was slipping, though.



No, its not my opinion, its cold hard fact, I witnessed first hand the death of the hardcore scene as it was, and everyone said the same thing, cheese. it ruined HHC. It was seriously sad to go to a Dreamscape and see the queue only a few people deep just before they opened the gates, where as you'd be queuing for ages to get in at the Sanctuary. THings were dying so quickly, it was heart breaking. But when you were in the main arenas, F&S were doing their relentless vocal tirade and the start of the whole fast trance bollocks. It drove loads out. Me included.

They must have started losing money hand over fist from that point on, trying to flog a dead horse.
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
It?s all about 1998!



Awful year for Hardcore, utter shit cheese releases from all labels. Glad I bailed in 1997/8 NYE even though I kept listening to the music and bought tape packs. WHen they got so unlistenable I stopped completely.



That's your opinion. Loads of tracks I liked in 1998. The scene was slipping, though.



No, its not my opinion, its cold hard fact, I witnessed first hand the death of the hardcore scene as it was, and everyone said the same thing, cheese. it ruined HHC. It was seriously sad to go to a Dreamscape and see the queue only a few people deep just before they opened the gates, where as you'd be queuing for ages to get in at the Sanctuary. THings were dying so quickly, it was heart breaking. But when you were in the main arenas, F&S were doing their relentless vocal tirade and the start of the whole fast trance bollocks. It drove loads out. Me included.

They must have started losing money hand over fist from that point on, trying to flog a dead horse.




I'm not disagreeing that Hardcore was on the slide, I interpreted your statement about it being a 'awful year for Hardcore' as in the music being produced was shit, which is your opinion. I loved 1998 for the music, you didn't. Opinions lad. We'll agree to disagree on that one.


As for the events. Helter Skelter was still pretty packed, as was Dreamscape. A lot of the smaller events weren't operating anymore, so it was really just the main ones, Helter Skelter, Dreamscape & Hardcore Heaven. Then came 1999 and less and less stuff was being made. For sure the scene was smaller..


Oh, Hysteria was another event, although, a smaller one and for over 16s.
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Mickey Init:
It?s all about 1998!



Awful year for Hardcore, utter shit cheese releases from all labels. Glad I bailed in 1997/8 NYE even though I kept listening to the music and bought tape packs. WHen they got so unlistenable I stopped completely.



That's your opinion. Loads of tracks I liked in 1998. The scene was slipping, though.



No, its not my opinion, its cold hard fact, I witnessed first hand the death of the hardcore scene as it was, and everyone said the same thing, cheese. it ruined HHC. It was seriously sad to go to a Dreamscape and see the queue only a few people deep just before they opened the gates, where as you'd be queuing for ages to get in at the Sanctuary. THings were dying so quickly, it was heart breaking. But when you were in the main arenas, F&S were doing their relentless vocal tirade and the start of the whole fast trance bollocks. It drove loads out. Me included.

They must have started losing money hand over fist from that point on, trying to flog a dead horse.




I'm not disagreeing that Hardcore was on the slide, I interpreted your statement about it being a 'awful year for Hardcore' as in the music being produced was shit, which is your opinion. I loved 1998 for the music, you didn't. Opinions lad. We'll agree to disagree on that one.


As for the events. Helter Skelter was still pretty packed, as was Dreamscape. A lot of the smaller events weren't operating anymore, so it was really just the main ones, Helter Skelter, Dreamscape & Hardcore Heaven. Then came 1999 and less and less stuff was being made. For sure the scene was smaller..






Which then leads me on to mention what a good job Scott Brown did through 1999 with the new Evolution sound that kept the scene going into the 2000s.
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Si Thompson ****in' ace.

Vz0u I love some good ol 1991 to 1993 breakbeat hardcore stuff


MusicILove


Lesson over. :)
youngson My favourite from 92
danielseven
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Originally posted by Vz0u:
I love some good ol 1991 to 1993 breakbeat hardcore stuff






The B-side of the first one is also good
Vz0u The B-side of the first one is also good


Yessir, great track. that first breakbeat is killer
Si Thompson Dj Sy @ The Gallery in Leeds back in 1992.


Si Thompson












Vz0u
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:







Great song, I used it in a mix i did a few months ago.



Si Thompson Got this in 2009 on vinyl for about 10 quid. Now at 90-100 on Discogs.


Wicked release. Stand out tracks being these two.



Si Thompson
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Originally posted by Vz0u:
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:







Great song, I used it in a mix i did a few months ago.







Big up!
Si Thompson Gorgeous piano.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson Love this.

Si Thompson Such a underplayed gem.

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Si Thompson Love this. Proper ravey.

Si Thompson Classic.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson Beautiful.

Si Thompson Tune.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson This track was great. Mental stuff.

Si Thompson Quality bit of early Hardcore.

Si Thompson
Thumpa Did this at the weekend!

https://soundcloud.com/thedjthumpa/thumpa-takes-you-one-step-beyond-fantazia-summertime-92-tribute

Possibly the biggest rave of the 90s with an estimated 30,000 outdoors at Castle Donington listening to Ratpack, Ellis Dee, Easygroove, Seduction, Grooverider, DJ SS, Mickey Finn, Simon Bassline Smith & more. I wasn't there but I love the sets so much I decided to take all my favourites played on this magical night and turn them into a big tribute mix! Enjoy!

01. Family Foundation - Xpress Yourself (Jungle Techno Remix)
02. Terrorize - Feel The Rhythm (Slammin Mix)
03. DJ Seduction - Hardcore Heaven (The Reincarnation)
04. Sy Kick - Upside
05. Manix - Feel Real Good
06. Hackney Hardcore - Dancehall Dangerous (Steve Johnson Remix)
07. Elevation - Can You Feel It
08. Hyper On Experience - Watchusnow
09. Urban Hype - I Feel The Heat
10. Knight Phantom - What's The Situation
11. Ellis Dee & Swan-E - Roughneck Business
12. Phuture Assassins - Future Sound
13. Foul Play - Ricochet
14. Psychotropic - Hypnosis (SL2 Remix)
15. Manix - Hardcore Junglism
16. Bodysnatch - Just 4 U London (Kuff Mix)
17. Egyptian Empire - The Horn Track (Foghorn Mix)
18. DJ Seduction - Cuckoo In The Jungle
19. Flag - Dominate
20. Tic Tac Toe - Ephemerol
21. Satin Storm - Let's Get Together
22. Justice & Mercy - Soothe My Soul
23. Nick OD - Jazzy Hardcore (Festa Remix)
24. DJ SS - Respect To The Following
25. Acen - Trip II The Moon (Part 2: The Darkside)
26. Xenophobia - Rushing The House
27. Acen - The Life And Crimes Of A Ruffneck
28. Rufige Kru - Menace
29. Bay B Kane - Good Good Sensi
30. Yolk - Music 4 Da People
31. Rufige Kru - Jim Skreech
32. Underground Software - Different Ting
33. Foul Play - Ragatere
34. DJ SS - Breakbeat Pressure
35. Edge Of Darkness - Come Together
Si Thompson I played this in my Halloween set 2 years ago.



Underplayed. I remember Sy playing it.
Si Thompson
Si Thompson Got hammered by the DJs, but I still love this.

Si Thompson Late 1992. Quality track.



Si Thompson Classic.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Si Thompson Nice little bootleg mix from 1992.

Si Thompson Quality. Late 1991.

Sulphurik Came into my head today



Sorry wrong thread
Si Thompson Classic sounds.

Si Thompson Classic.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson Such a wicked tune.

Si Thompson Prefer this mix though.

Si Thompson Wicked tune.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Si Thompson RUFF!

Si Thompson Still love this. Absolutely timeless.

LeVzi I found this while ****ing about on youtube. Wicked tunes and the footage is mainly from One Step Beyond Fantazia @ Donnington 1992.

Awesome background music while i'm on the PC.

Si Thompson
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
I found this while ****ing about on youtube. Wicked tunes and the footage is mainly from One Step Beyond Fantazia @ Donnington 1992.

Awesome background music while i'm on the PC.





Ain't these just the best days? Wicked!
LeVzi
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
I found this while ****ing about on youtube. Wicked tunes and the footage is mainly from One Step Beyond Fantazia @ Donnington 1992.

Awesome background music while i'm on the PC.





Ain't these just the best days? Wicked!



Yeah man, they were. Wish I could go back and do that all again.
Si Thompson I'm sure I've posted this before. Anyways, Only ever heard Dj Sy play this @ Dreamscape 3 in April 1992.

Sc@r i kow its not 90-92 breakbeat but some awesome news that Simon Apex and Dair are producing again. and straight way onto the Hardcore Breakbeat stuff. theres also a 90s analog, a naughteys 90s breakbeat ( this clip will be up in a few days) and a uk hardcore mix
but heres the breakbeat hardcore sample of them coming back to the scene yay!

Si Thompson Classic.

Si Thompson Just so 1992.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson 1992 anthem.

Si Thompson Ron Wells under an alias. Quality!

Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
possys2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcgDx1-OgN4&ab_channel=mickeybeam75
Brainstorm Crew - Define The Beat
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by possys2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcgDx1-OgN4&ab_channel=mickeybeam75
Brainstorm Crew - Define The Beat



A young MC Storm was part of that group.


I liked this track.

Si Thompson
possys2 yeah man that reach out track is class, didnt know mc storm was in that group either, he been around forever!!

i found this a few days ago in my 91/93 vinyls
Si Thompson Still love this.

Si Thompson Quality.

Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Si Thompson
Si Thompson Wicked remix. I actually prefer this to the original.

LeVzi
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Wicked remix. I actually prefer this to the original.





That's a remix ? I thought that was the original ?

Si Thompson
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:
Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Wicked remix. I actually prefer this to the original.





That's a remix ? I thought that was the original ?







No. It's Wishdokta's remix.


It has the breakdown with pads in the middle. Much better than the original.
LeVzi Oh yeah I hear the difference now.
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possys2 i like these music track threads... loads of choons ive forgot about.
memories
possys2
Warnman
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Originally posted by possys2:




I deeply love this track, I deeply love this movie "Hackers"! What a choon !

"Hack the planet!"

Si Thompson
Si Thompson
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possys2 my fav remix of this track
Si Thompson
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Originally posted by possys2:
my fav remix of this track




I have this on vinyl. Quality remix.
Si Thompson
Si Thompson This is a cool EP. Made in 2007, but very 1993 kinda style.





Si Thompson Both sides of this are excellent.

Si Thompson
possys2
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Si Thompson Dark as you like. Sublime.

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Sulphurik Came across this one, what a track.

Si Thompson
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Came across this one, what a track.






There's some really good Q-Tex stuff from 1993/94.
Si Thompson Well ahead of its time for 1991.

possys2
Si Thompson Classic.


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