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| Rapid Bass |
Why is hardhouse considered so hard? You hear Lisa Lashes etc and all that hardhouse crew go on about how hard they play.. Have they ever heard of Gabber or Hardcore? Hardhouse to me seems pretty soft ass!! I don't mind softer dance like Eurodance, Trance and House etc.. But can't stand how you hear Hardhouse and Hardstyle djs go on like their music is for the really hard music fan when it's not.. Sounds pretty midway if you ask me.. Think they should stick to the name Hardhouse..
I'm raw to the floor cause i love my hardcore.
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| TypeR |
i think they may have felt that the name "A little harder than normal house music" was a little too long
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| mj-dream |
lol...........yer i do agree but it is hard to them innit but coz were used to hcore we see everything else as midway etc
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| TypeR |
polka is hard as nails!
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| Triquatra |
hard because its harder than normal house..
its comparably soft compared to hardstyle or gabber though
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| Loz_e |
is hard house the same as hard dance??
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| Triquatra |
hard house is hard dance
hardcore = hard dance
hard trance = hard dance
hardstyle = hard dance
dance music - which is hard
hard. dance. music.
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| DJ E-Rok |
yeah I was gona ask teh same thing......... what a quick answear 
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| Rapid Bass |
Hardhouse is reviewed under the harddance section in mixmag so it must be considerd the same thing.. I'd love to hear one of these so called harddance djs play a set next to someone like Scott Brown or Paul Elstac and then they'll no the meaning of hard.. Would make so called harddance sound like chillout.. Meanwhile think they should rename the genre "club dance" hehe..
I'm raw to the floor cause i love my hardcore.
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| whispering |
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Originally posted by BobbyRitalin:
polka is hard as nails!
They call hard dance polka here :p But then again some use genre names as fist**** techno here :)
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| -Bazza- |
If Hard House was as hard as Hardcore then it would no longer be Hard House it would be Hardcore. 
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| Fishy |
well hard trance isen't really hard either imo
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| capone13 |
Hardstyle is hard, maybe not as hard as Gabba, but its still Hard. Hardstyle is the hardest form of Hard Dance and then it would be Schranz Techno.
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| NathanD |
hard trance might not be hard but it's definately harder than trance.
whys hardcore called hardcore? it's not hard to the core, its hard on the outside and cheese on the inside lol.
who cares what genre's are named what? hard dance is harder than normal dance music. might not be as hard as gabber but if we split music up into so many genre's it'd be hard to get peopole to recognise the scene.
at least with the majority of hard trance, hard house, hardcore being classed as hard dance it means new comers will get a taste of everything when they look under hard dance and maybe discover hardcore... and more hardcore lovers can't be a bad thing, right? 
//Nathan D |
| ryg0r |
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Hardstyle is hard, maybe not as hard as Gabba, but its still Hard. Hardstyle is the hardest form of Hard Dance and then it would be Schranz Techno.
I dont know "Schranz Techno", but I agree that hard style is very hard.
Its funny though, because you try and speed it up to make it harder, and it kinda looses its edge, same with hard trance.
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| clarke101 |
The bet way to think about it is by hard in dance music they usually just mean faster not actually harder at all.
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| Triquatra |
i always thought of hardstyle as gabber for pu**ys
:P
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| DarrenJ |
different kinds of hardtsyle and NRG
most popular hardstyle track on aus in ages was "nobody listens to techno", which sounds like a slowed down babyboom track and played by techno dj's, the sameones who think there music is SO much more mature.
But yeah I own a old house cd from judge jules (was in bargain bin for a few dollars) and the new hard house is alot harder,
I guess its evolution thu, since Hardcore today is alot harder then most old skool hardcore tracks. Yet people dont call it "hard hardcore"
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| capone13 |
quote:
Originally posted by ryg0r:
quote:
Hardstyle is hard, maybe not as hard as Gabba, but its still Hard. Hardstyle is the hardest form of Hard Dance and then it would be Schranz Techno.
I dont know "Schranz Techno", but I agree that hard style is very hard.
Its funny though, because you try and speed it up to make it harder, and it kinda looses its edge, same with hard trance.
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This is a clip of a Schranz Techno choon mate,
http://www.vitalvinyl.com/library/audioLink.ra?item_id=39868&track_id=10903&type=track
Not a very good quality clip tho.
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| katrinar50 |
Billy Bunter plays both Hard dance and Hardcore because some of what he plays can't be called hardcore but is much harder and faster than the stuff you see on MTV Dance.
Kat
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| whittle1 |
Too many hard titled music in the hardcore industry for me to understand
e.g. Hard Trance
Happy Hard
Nu Skool Happy Hard
Hard Dance
HardStyle
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| mj-dream |
quote:
Originally posted by NathanD:
whys hardcore called hardcore? it's not hard to the core, its hard on the outside and cheese on the inside lol.
//Nathan D
only if you listen to tha cheese mate i no plenty of hardcore which is HARD 2 THA CORE no cheese attached
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| NathanD |
i agree, i was just trying to make a point, music isn't always called what it is for any particular reason. hard house isn't hard, but it's not soft. you couldn't lay there close ur eye's n relax to it like you could with trance. it's only a name... who cares lol? as long as teh music is good that's what matters!
//Nathan D |
| Spiffeh |
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Originally posted by katrinar50:
Billy Bunter plays both Hard dance and Hardcore because some of what he plays can't be called hardcore but is much harder and faster than the stuff you see on MTV Dance.
ahaha, this would be mainly because hard house isn't on MTV Dance :P
Anyway, first off hard house shouldn't really be called hardhouse, as it's about as housey as a ... shoe... however, it is hard compared to normal dance music, for one it's got a kick that is about 1 billion times stronger than the kicks in trance, which are about as hard as a newborn kitten. Also the bass, the percussion etc all give it a chunky hard feel, and also it's about 150bpm, which generally makes it faster (and harder?) than other "dance" music.
Also, hard dance is a term to generally cover the genres of hard house, hard trance, and nrg, as many DJs who play one of these genres, whill generally play the others too as they are very similar.
IMO, hardcore is about as hard as hard trance nowadays, just 20bpm faster, yes theres different styles of hardcore which are much harder, and it's the same in the hard dance scene, for example someone pointed out schranz, however the example they gave was possibly the weakest schranz track I have ever heard... But anyway, I'm running out of things to say so I will just stop... :P
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| Stony McTony |
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
i always thought of hardstyle as gabber for pu**ys
:P
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OI whatcha self sunshine, i like hardstyle AND gabber n i dont consider myself a pussy! hardstlyes jus different jus cos it aint as fast its more drivin with the slow rhythmic beats, hits to yer heart
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| Slammer_Jammer_Man |
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Originally posted by Spiffeh:
quote:
Originally posted by katrinar50:
Billy Bunter plays both Hard dance and Hardcore because some of what he plays can't be called hardcore but is much harder and faster than the stuff you see on MTV Dance.
ahaha, this would be mainly because hard house isn't on MTV Dance :P
Anyway, first off hard house shouldn't really be called hardhouse, as it's about as housey as a ... shoe... however, it is hard compared to normal dance music, for one it's got a kick that is about 1 billion times stronger than the kicks in trance, which are about as hard as a newborn kitten. Also the bass, the percussion etc all give it a chunky hard feel, and also it's about 150bpm, which generally makes it faster (and harder?) than other "dance" music.
Also, hard dance is a term to generally cover the genres of hard house, hard trance, and nrg, as many DJs who play one of these genres, whill generally play the others too as they are very similar.
IMO, hardcore is about as hard as hard trance nowadays, just 20bpm faster, yes theres different styles of hardcore which are much harder, and it's the same in the hard dance scene, for example someone pointed out schranz, however the example they gave was possibly the weakest schranz track I have ever heard... But anyway, I'm running out of things to say so I will just stop... :P
Erm... Hard House does sound a lot like House. Especially considering it evolved from House... it is essentially just House music that is a little faster with some harder kicks and drum lines, which is why it is called Hard House and not Harder than Hardcore House. They're not referring to how hard it is in relation to other genres, just how hard it is compared to House.
Furthermore... sorry, but what have you been smoking? I can see Hard Trance/NRG DJs playing both, but I don't know of more than one or two Hard Trance/House DJs that play both. Hard Trance and Hard House are about as similar as an African is to a British farmer. And you must be listening to some pretty hard Hard Trance/soft Hardcore if you think that they're as hard as each other.
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| Triquatra |
quote:
Originally posted by Stony McTony:
quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
i always thought of hardstyle as gabber for pu**ys
:P
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OI whatcha self sunshine, i like hardstyle AND gabber n i dont consider myself a pussy! hardstlyes jus different jus cos it aint as fast its more drivin with the slow rhythmic beats, hits to yer heart
Theres nothing wrong with the boat those big holes help keep our feet cool.
lol, take a joke
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| DJDURSTAN |
I agree that hard house aint hard (it could be quite easily if the producers would use a hard kick and a decent bass) but hardstyle can be f**k hard in fact harder than hardcore at times. To quote MC Ribbz on a Lenny Dee tape i own from around '97 "It doesn't have to be fast to be hard" and he is damn right. I also dj house/electro and breaks and some of it can be speaker blowin at times it's all about the production!!!!!!
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| bulby_g |
Some hardstyle is as hard as gabba especially some of the spanish/italian stuff I know people who play hardstyle that you could easily mistake for gabba. Hard house can also be really really hard you just have to listen to the right stuff! Lisa lashes and the likes generally play the really light hard house try digging a bit deeper there is some real dirty stuff out there believe me ;) if I get time later ill put up some samples.
Incidentally its the same story with techno some of it is hard as fook some of it not hard at all there is just so much of it out there you gotta no where to look!
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| Fishy |
quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
i always thought of hardstyle as gabber for pu**ys
:P
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Hardstyle IS gabber for pussys :P
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| Chrysostomou |
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Originally posted by NathanD:
hard trance might not be hard but it's definately harder than trance.
LOVE IT.. Hence the name mate HARD Trance
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| Spiffeh |
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Originally posted by Slammer_Jammer_Man:
quote:
Originally posted by Spiffeh:
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Originally posted by katrinar50:
Billy Bunter plays both Hard dance and Hardcore because some of what he plays can't be called hardcore but is much harder and faster than the stuff you see on MTV Dance.
ahaha, this would be mainly because hard house isn't on MTV Dance :P
Anyway, first off hard house shouldn't really be called hardhouse, as it's about as housey as a ... shoe... however, it is hard compared to normal dance music, for one it's got a kick that is about 1 billion times stronger than the kicks in trance, which are about as hard as a newborn kitten. Also the bass, the percussion etc all give it a chunky hard feel, and also it's about 150bpm, which generally makes it faster (and harder?) than other "dance" music.
Also, hard dance is a term to generally cover the genres of hard house, hard trance, and nrg, as many DJs who play one of these genres, whill generally play the others too as they are very similar.
IMO, hardcore is about as hard as hard trance nowadays, just 20bpm faster, yes theres different styles of hardcore which are much harder, and it's the same in the hard dance scene, for example someone pointed out schranz, however the example they gave was possibly the weakest schranz track I have ever heard... But anyway, I'm running out of things to say so I will just stop... :P
Erm... Hard House does sound a lot like House. Especially considering it evolved from House... it is essentially just House music that is a little faster with some harder kicks and drum lines, which is why it is called Hard House and not Harder than Hardcore House. They're not referring to how hard it is in relation to other genres, just how hard it is compared to House.
Furthermore... sorry, but what have you been smoking? I can see Hard Trance/NRG DJs playing both, but I don't know of more than one or two Hard Trance/House DJs that play both. Hard Trance and Hard House are about as similar as an African is to a British farmer. And you must be listening to some pretty hard Hard Trance/soft Hardcore if you think that they're as hard as each other.
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ahahahahah.... ahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... right I know you're Australian and you have your genres mixed up there but lol....
Erm... Hard House does sound a lot like House. Especially considering it evolved from House...
Hard house may have evolved from house, but today it is NOTHING like it, the only resemblance is that it has a 4/4 beat...
For example:
Example House Track: http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181224-01-01-01.mp3
Example Hard House Track: http://www.bangingtunes.com/play/em032/b/
Now how similar are they?... not at ALL!!!
which is why it is called Hard House and not Harder than Hardcore House.
ummm... Hardcore House? you're just making stuff up now lol
I can see Hard Trance/NRG DJs playing both, but I don't know of more than one or two Hard Trance/House DJs that play both.
I know loads of hard dance DJs who play both Hard Trance and Hard House but don't know many that play Hard Trance and NRG together without hard house lol... again here are some examples:
Hard House Example: (same as above)
Hard Trance Example: http://www.bangingtunes.com/play/tranzlation01/a/
NRG Example: http://www.bangingtunes.com/play/passion7/b/
and I am right, because I know best :P
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| Stony McTony |
quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
quote:
Originally posted by Stony McTony:
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
i always thought of hardstyle as gabber for pu**ys
:P
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OI whatcha self sunshine, i like hardstyle AND gabber n i dont consider myself a pussy! hardstlyes jus different jus cos it aint as fast its more drivin with the slow rhythmic beats, hits to yer heart
Theres nothing wrong with the boat those big holes help keep our feet cool.
lol, take a joke
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oooh alrite i'l let u off this time, oh and whats the big fuss about hard house is just hard house, obv there both different but i dunno y evry1s gotta get all upset about the definitions
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| Slammer_Jammer_Man |
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ahahahahah.... ahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... right I know you're Australian and you have your genres mixed up there but lol....
Our genres are exactly the same as in the UK. Furthermore, your Hard House sample isn't Hard House. It's Hard Trance, which is why it sounds so similar to your Hard Trance sample. Hard House DJs are like Jason Nevins, they don't sound a thing like Hard Trance.
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ummm... Hardcore House? you're just making stuff up now lol
I was saying it's called Hard House (i.e. referring to it being harder than House), not Harder than Hardcore House (i.e. it's not making any reference to how hard it is in relation to any other genre). I wasn't saying there is such a genre as Hardcore House.
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| davejukes |
I think a lot of people have there wires crossed on here Hard Dance is a term for all hard music be it hardcore, new nrg, gabba, techno or whatever. its just a term like House music is or even Happy Hardcore- how many choons fall into those categories? I dont personally think lisa lashes is a good example of a hard house dj either, just like the hardcore scene there are hard dj's and i wouldnt consider lisa being one of those.
If you want to hear proper hard hard house try looking for nrg its faster than hard house 155-165bpm and you might see what all the fuss is about, try looking for djs like karim and artists such as narc or grady g. These represent the proper hard house sound.
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