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| The Doc |
at the mo theres 3 but with Hardcore Adrenaline out on monday there will no doubt be 4! Now for everyone whos pissed off with the sh*te and money grabbers ect! You can't argue the fact that HARDCORE is selling CD's! and I've never known 4 Hardcore CD's being in the chart at the same time! I really think 2007 will be even bigger! I've got all the younger lads in my work asking to borrow my older CD's (at the start of 2006 they all hated it)
THERS NO F**KING WAY IT WILL DIE THIS YEAR! |
| djDMS |
Love the topic title.
No, there'll be 40 albums in the top 40 on monday! :P
Seriously though, i'm having mixed feelings because although there'll be 4 hardcore albums in the chart, they're mostly pretty weak imo as far as representing hardcore goes.
I haven't bought any of them, and have no immediate plans to do so. Having so many albums beong released has made me more choosy - meaning i buy less!
I just pray that the quality of the tunes doesn't continue on this downhill slide - cover after cover, remix after remix.
The only people making original tunes are the ones who don't get featured on big selling albums enough!
No, hardcore won't die this year - but hopefully the sound will go in different directions, with the fresher sounds standing on their own 2 feet instead of being overshadowed by useless charty remixes. |
| The Doc |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Love the topic title.
No, there'll be 40 albums in the top 40 on monday! :P
Seriously though, i'm having mixed feelings because although there'll be 4 hardcore albums in the chart, they're mostly pretty weak imo as far as representing hardcore goes.
I haven't bought any of them, and have no immediate plans to do so. Having so many albums beong released has made me more choosy - meaning i buy less!
I just pray that the quality of the tunes doesn't continue on this downhill slide - cover after cover, remix after remix.
The only people making original tunes are the ones who don't get featured on big selling albums enough!
No, hardcore won't die this year - but hopefully the sound will go in different directions, with the fresher sounds standing on their own 2 feet instead of being overshadowed by useless charty remixes.
class reply! I fell for that one! BOB has a bit about it this time! but for new people that buy this CD it will give them something to think about for some different sounds! (older stuff of a few genres) The thing is though I know so many people in work and friends and family(pre 20) who havn't or didn't listen to hardcore 18 months ago and now its lend me your CD's! Of course they wan't to listen to the cheese! but were do u start from? I'm all about Speedcore and gabba! its my favourite hardcore! but surely the more people that listen to it the more the chance of some young kid (16,17,18ish) whos got fresh ideas! and does something different in the whole hardcore scene!
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| clarke101 |
The only recent album i may buy is the helter v raindance and that will only be for disc 1.
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| MegaJynx |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Love the topic title.
No, there'll be 40 albums in the top 40 on monday! :P
Seriously though, i'm having mixed feelings because although there'll be 4 hardcore albums in the chart, they're mostly pretty weak imo as far as representing hardcore goes.
I haven't bought any of them, and have no immediate plans to do so. Having so many albums beong released has made me more choosy - meaning i buy less!
I just pray that the quality of the tunes doesn't continue on this downhill slide - cover after cover, remix after remix.
The only people making original tunes are the ones who don't get featured on big selling albums enough!
No, hardcore won't die this year - but hopefully the sound will go in different directions, with the fresher sounds standing on their own 2 feet instead of being overshadowed by useless charty remixes.
When I read the 40 in the top 40 bit, I actually did laugh out loud :p anyway, 4 hardcore CD's on the top 40 of what chart anyway?
As for the Hardcore taking off and crap, my only three fears will be that:
A, other genres will attempt to "influence" it, otherwise, DOMINATE the hardcore genre (not to say that this would be a total bad thing, seeing change has kept it alive so long, I just mean change to make it acceptable to mainstream and over-deviating from hardcore itself, if i make any sense)
B, It will "peak over" or get caught up in too much hype and will become non-existant shortly thereafter
C, Chavs will take over the world... >.> |
| jenks |
^^ UK compilations chart (I think). |
| Brian K |
quote:
Originally posted by MegaJynx:
A, other genres will attempt to "influence" it, otherwise, DOMINATE the hardcore genre (not to say that this would be a total bad thing, seeing change has kept it alive so long, I just mean change to make it acceptable to mainstream and over-deviating from hardcore itself, if i make any sense)
didn't that already happen? |
| MegaJynx |
quote:
Originally posted by Brian K:
quote:
Originally posted by MegaJynx:
A, other genres will attempt to "influence" it, otherwise, DOMINATE the hardcore genre (not to say that this would be a total bad thing, seeing change has kept it alive so long, I just mean change to make it acceptable to mainstream and over-deviating from hardcore itself, if i make any sense)
didn't that already happen?
oh yea, good point :P |
| this-is-bonkers |
Hardcore has become commercial, so much so that (get this) TESCO!! had BOB, & have been getting quite a few other hardore albums too, this is a big deal unless your tesco stcoked hardore before because mine didnt it was all hip hop crap, teeny bopper dance & Rock... |
| bulby_g |
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Seriously though, i'm having mixed feelings because although there'll be 4 hardcore albums in the chart, they're mostly pretty weak imo as far as representing hardcore goes.
I haven't bought any of them, and have no immediate plans to do so. Having so many albums beong released has made me more choosy - meaning i buy less!
I just pray that the quality of the tunes doesn't continue on this downhill slide - cover after cover, remix after remix.
The only people making original tunes are the ones who don't get featured on big selling albums enough!
No, hardcore won't die this year - but hopefully the sound will go in different directions, with the fresher sounds standing on their own 2 feet instead of being overshadowed by useless charty remixes.
Says it all there really...
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| Scruffles |
I'm new to hardcore/happy hardcore, and it was this site's radio that got me into it (I've also taken to some gabber an listened to hardcoreradio.nl alot). But i prefer happy hardcore and asked for a Hardcore cd for my birthday, and was given Clubland X-Treme Hardcore Vol.3. I really like most of the tracks on it, but the cascada remixes anoy me because they'vez barely remixed it at all, just speed it up an put a bass on every beat =/ But i really like the majority of the tracks on it and want to buy the hardcore adrenaline album that's advertised on the homepage. But i know very little about the genre, dj's and labels. So i'm currently going by whatever i can get my hands on. Though a few tracks that i really like are Freaks - Hixxy, Sy & Unkown, Angel Eyes - Scott Brown and Sure feels good - Styles & Re-Con. Do any of these dj's have albums? Or is most of what people buy compilations albums? Also, which four albums are in the charts? Nobody's mentioned them yet and i'm not sure which chart the poster is refering to. |
| Aaron-Htid |
helter skelter vs raindance isnt that good! especially cd1 :)) cd2 is good tho |
| phewcharyztik |
The 4 albums are:
Helter Skelter vs Raindance : Hardcore 2007
Clubland X-Treme Hardcore 3
Best Of Bonkers
Hardcore Adrenaline
Scott Brown has a few unmixed albums out and Darren Styles is releasing his solo album this year, but it will probably be his hard dance stuff rather than hardcore. |
| Smoogie |
quote:
Originally posted by [email protected]:
BOB has a bit about it this time! but for new people that buy this CD it will give them something to think about for some different sounds! (older stuff of a few genres) The thing is though I know so many people in work and friends and family(pre 20) who havn't or didn't listen to hardcore 18 months ago and now its lend me your CD's! Of course they wan't to listen to the cheese! but were do u start from? I'm all about Speedcore and gabba! its my favourite hardcore! but surely the more people that listen to it the more the chance of some young kid (16,17,18ish) whos got fresh ideas! and does something different in the whole hardcore scene!
Some of the stuff on Best of Bonekrs is some of the best stuff I have heard in a long time! The Ruffneck classics near the end of Hixxy and Re-con's mix is amazing imo!
I have Helter Skelter vers. Raindance which is ok and no intention of Getting Clubland Extream Hardcore 3 or Hardcore Adrenaline as they will be mostly Upfront Hardcore with the usual Raverbaby remixes of club tunes and older stuff! |
| DarkMain |
Man, All this hardcore and I have to sit on the side lines... We get virtually no hardcore in NZ. :(
Any ways, Where can one see these charts?
Is there an official website that shows them? |
| bulby_g |
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
helter skelter vs raindance isnt that good! especially cd1 :)) cd2 is good tho
ppfftt you just have bad taste in music ;) It's not the best "breaks" cd but it's OK.
Mind I do agree that CD2 is the strongest on the comp'.
It's the best offering there has been since Hardcore Underground anyways. |
| yaddam205 |
If only Hardcore Underground sold enth amount of copies to get in there, I would happy |
| Aaron-Htid |
wel thn wots th problem pal we both agree cd2 is th best :S |
| bulby_g |
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
wel thn wots th problem pal we both agree cd2 is th best :S
No problem, just don't agree with you that CD1 isn't very good. I didn't realise I'd made out that there was a problem... :s
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| tru bass |
i have to explain to people what hardcore is and i think its gonna stay that way even if four albums get in the charts. just because the albums are in the compilation charts doesnt mean hardcore will get huge (it basically is). there have been many artists in the compilation charts who have been useless. basically im trying to say whoop de doo if it gets in the charts but id rather people on television and radio talked about it more. and if they played one song on radio 1 that was remotely hardcore in peak listening time i would be more pleased than if hardcore got in the charts 24/7 |
| DJ-Pure |
Feeling hot hot hot :D lol |
| clarke101 |
New KFA album will pwn all. |
| Da Cunney Bugz |
bought hardcore 2007 yesterday and its poo, its average on all fronts with cd3 being complete poo, id say cd 2 is suprisingly my fav abd as for bonkers what i bought yesterday n all its a complete let down |
| Nooney |
quote:
Originally posted by clarke101:
New KFA album will pwn all.
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| andyandypandy |
it wont ever die if we keep feeding more and more talent into it, and allow hardcore to evolve and become more progressive :D |
| The Doc |
quote:
Originally posted by tru bass:
i have to explain to people what hardcore is and i think its gonna stay that way even if four albums get in the charts. just because the albums are in the compilation charts doesnt mean hardcore will get huge (it basically is). there have been many artists in the compilation charts who have been useless. basically im trying to say whoop de doo if it gets in the charts but id rather people on television and radio talked about it more. and if they played one song on radio 1 that was remotely hardcore in peak listening time i would be more pleased than if hardcore got in the charts 24/7
I thought artists releases were based in the album charts! (compilations are albums of a lot of artists on one release) and I would say that 4 albums of any one Dance genre in the charts at the same time would get a response from at least one person in the UK who hasn't heard it before to take note! Also even though Cillit Bang is slated by most hardcore lovers, it has actually been on a couple of times on Radio 1 in the prime time shows (Chris Moyles ect)
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| Hardcore4eva |
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Seriously though, i'm having mixed feelings because although there'll be 4 hardcore albums in the chart, they're mostly pretty weak imo as far as representing hardcore goes.
I haven't bought any of them, and have no immediate plans to do so. Having so many albums beong released has made me more choosy - meaning i buy less!
I just pray that the quality of the tunes doesn't continue on this downhill slide - cover after cover, remix after remix.
The only people making original tunes are the ones who don't get featured on big selling albums enough!
No, hardcore won't die this year - but hopefully the sound will go in different directions, with the fresher sounds standing on their own 2 feet instead of being overshadowed by useless charty remixes.
Says it all there really...
As always, never expect any less from Mr Dean |
| Scruffles |
So the general veiw is that the four albums in the charts aren't really worthy of beeing there when considering the other hardcore compilations there are out there? So what do people think should be in the charts? Quite a few people have given praise to 'Hardcore Underground'. What else would you want in the charts? |
| bulby_g |
^^^Best of Bonkers is good and Hardcore 2007 is OK. CXHC3 is tosh and HE is a bit so so IMO.
quote:
Originally posted by Scruffles:
What else would you want in the charts?
Really couldn't care less. "The charts" are not and never have been a reflection of what's good and what isn't. It's just a list of the stuff that teeny boppers are following at the time... generally dictated by clever marketing. |
| RAVER7 |
ITS ALL COMERCIAL,HARDCORE SHUOLD NOT BE COMERCIALISED,ITS UNDERDROUND AND SHOULD STAY THERE,WHERE ALL BIG RECORDS COMPANIES CANT TOUCH IT AND KILL OUR SCENE |
| Aaron-Htid |
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
wel thn wots th problem pal we both agree cd2 is th best :S
No problem, just don't agree with you that CD1 isn't very good. I didn't realise I'd made out that there was a problem... :s
Well yi dun a fair bit eh moanin like so ther wis a problem pal
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| Sk8SiM |
Erm, I'm confussed!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/compilations.shtml
^^^^ I'm only seeing 2 (Hardcore 2007 & Clubland extreme!)
At number 7 is Hardcore 2007 which has been in the charts for 3 weeks and is going "down!!"
Then all the way down at number 17 is clubland extreme, which has been in the charts for 5 weeks (so fair play on that front!)
As for the other one? - erm i'm not seeing it!
and check it!
"Dance Album" chart piss's all over the hardcore industry!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/dancealbums.shtml
With only 1 album (hardcore 2007) being at number 17! - which was at number 13 last week (meaning its gone DOWN the chart!)!
Sorry guys ^^^ its the truth!
False hope is a bastard ay 
But on the topic though, i don't really care how well hardcore is doing in the charts! lol, if its successful then fair play! if its not then oh well!
It won#t change my views! on whether its good or shit!
Cuse in my opinion - as someone else pointed out... half the stuff in the charts isn't really what i would call "hardcore" anyways! |
| Meathead |
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
"The charts" are not and never have been a reflection of what's good and what isn't.
gotta agree wiv bulby more often than not its got nowt 2 do wiv quality
i mean wats top of the singles chart... thats rite leona lewis wiv a crap song (that im sure ive heard b4).
the charts are all about popularity and as bulby said clever marketing thers no real credability 2 them n hardcore dosnt deserve 2 b dragged down 2 that level.
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| Underloop |
quote:
Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
Erm, I'm confussed!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/compilations.shtml
^^^^ I'm only seeing 2 (Hardcore 2007 & Clubland extreme!)
At number 7 is Hardcore 2007 which has been in the charts for 3 weeks and is going "down!!"
Then all the way down at number 17 is clubland extreme, which has been in the charts for 5 weeks (so fair play on that front!)
As for the other one? - erm i'm not seeing it!
Best of Bonkers was released on the 15th, so didn't make it for this chart. End of week charts should see it enter quite high though tomorrow.
Hardcore Adrenaline is out on Monday, and should see it enter next week. Where it will enter is anybody's guess, but I think it should do quite well. |
| The Doc |
quote:
Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
Erm, I'm confussed!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/compilations.shtml
^^^^ I'm only seeing 2 (Hardcore 2007 & Clubland extreme!)
At number 7 is Hardcore 2007 which has been in the charts for 3 weeks and is going "down!!"
Then all the way down at number 17 is clubland extreme, which has been in the charts for 5 weeks (so fair play on that front!)
As for the other one? - erm i'm not seeing it!
and check it!
"Dance Album" chart piss's all over the hardcore industry!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/dancealbums.shtml
With only 1 album (hardcore 2007) being at number 17! - which was at number 13 last week (meaning its gone DOWN the chart!)!
Sorry guys ^^^ its the truth!
False hope is a bastard ay
But on the topic though, i don't really care how well hardcore is doing in the charts! lol, if its successful then fair play! if its not then oh well!
It won#t change my views! on whether its good or shit!
Cuse in my opinion - as someone else pointed out... half the stuff in the charts isn't really what i would call "hardcore" anyways!
The dance album chart on BBC charts is s*ite! (even Madonnas album is there) and it doesn't tally with actual sales! (check out some of the releases) The comp chart is what its about because you've got every Various artists release on there! with the albums being sold in every music sellig shop in the country! That chart is official and from monday BOB will be top 20! and the week after so will HA! but if you go to HMV, Virgin , Woolies , Asda ect on Monday, there WILL be 4 Hardcore albums in all their charts in the top 40! Like I said this has never happened before ever! and My oppinion, your oppinion or anyones oppinion doesn't affect an album selling! sales figures do though! so the longer hardcore is selling albums the longer it stays around! at when it slows down, I will still listen to it, buy it and love it!
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| TomKav |
I feel too much over exposure of hardcore will end up destroying the scene by attracting the wrong kind of crowd that are being produced by listening to this commercial hardcore in the charts at the moment, i think i'm speaking for alot of people when i say that we are worried that this change is being induced by an untrue reflection of the music we love and the outlook doesn't seem good.
Hardcore CD's in the charts?... yes its a good thing, but keep it real instead of contantly remixing the same commercial dance tracks & artists, cascada being one of them.
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| phewcharyztik |
The best album in the chart next week that will really reflect hardcore is Best Of Bonkers as it isn't your usual chart remixed shit. It's got a nice selection of old tracks on there to give new listeners to hardcore a taste of what things used to be like, a good selection of freeform, and well, Scott Browns CD, which has some good tracks from the last few years.
As for attracting the wrong type of crowd, yes, we'll probably get a load of dickheads starting to go to raves but hopefully it will attract a lot more open minded people to the scene, maybe with fresh ideas and other influences that could make hardcore even better. |
| bulby_g |
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
wel thn wots th problem pal we both agree cd2 is th best :S
No problem, just don't agree with you that CD1 isn't very good. I didn't realise I'd made out that there was a problem... :s
Well yi dun a fair bit eh moanin like so ther wis a problem pal
What? |
| kathryn |
Do you think Aaron is from the wigan pier crew lyk?
wtf scouse is teh shit innit?
ya no tlk lyk tht innit? |
| jenks |
Sounds more like a Gerodie to me... |
| Meathead |
na i bet u anythin hes scottish... |
| Meathead |
check his profile hes a jock |
| Aaron-Htid |
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
wel thn wots th problem pal we both agree cd2 is th best :S
No problem, just don't agree with you that CD1 isn't very good. I didn't realise I'd made out that there was a problem... :s
Well yi dun a fair bit eh moanin like so ther wis a problem pal
What?
Nutn m8 |
| kathryn |
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by Aaron-Htid:
wel thn wots th problem pal we both agree cd2 is th best :S
No problem, just don't agree with you that CD1 isn't very good. I didn't realise I'd made out that there was a problem... :s
Well yi dun a fair bit eh moanin like so ther wis a problem pal
What?
Nutn m8
You didnt get a dictionary for christmas then Aaron? |
