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The VEC bassdrums aren't cutting it for me. They don't have the "Bewm" thing to them like with a lot of the drums I hear from classic happy hardcore (and some newer tunes too).

Anyone know of a good sample pack that has some good bassdrums for happy hardcore?


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by bewm i almost assume you mean high q kick drums?

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quote:
Originally posted by Starstruck:
by bewm i almost assume you mean high q kick drums?



Here's an example:
http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/62087701/file.html

That's what I mean by "bewm" (it has that sound).
I would use that myself but a clap is on top of it, there's some vinyl distortion, and IMO it's kind of stealing (a bit of a different story though with the amen break).


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thats like an oldschool slightly distorted kick

reminds me of the kcikdrum in popcorn by dj vibes.

maybe u could rip it from there.


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quote:
Originally posted by Starstruck:
thats like an oldschool slightly distorted kick

reminds me of the kcikdrum in popcorn by dj vibes.

maybe u could rip it from there.



There are a lot of other oldschool kicks I would like to be able to use too.


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use equalizers and distortion on a simple tr-909 kick sample

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quote:
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use equalizers and distortion on a simple tr-909 kick sample



I got some 909 samples, but no matter what I do I can't get that sound. This is my best result I could get, and it's WAY too distorted.
http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/18446938/file.html


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The kickdrum pack at dancemidisamples.com is pretty good, though it's more new skool'ish.
you could also try layering.there's endless combinations to be made with a few raw samples.

btw, and excuse my ignorance, what are the VEC Bassdrums?


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vec are the vengeance kicks which 90% of hardcore producers use these days......granted they are top quality kicks but do my ****ing tits in as every kik sounds the same its why hardcore kik n bass are shit now imo........they are everywhere ffs

make your own......seriously

its not that hard just put some time and effort in.......read tutorials


personally i dont sample kicks from other tunes......they arnt clean enough and are too processed......get some clean samples and experiment :)


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...and to top it off, excessive bouncing and re exporting can lead to your quite low quality sample to sound like its underwater and half low passed.

you wont get anywhere these days unless you use really high quality kick samples.


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quote:
Originally posted by mj-dream:
vec are the vengeance kicks which 90% of hardcore producers use these days......granted they are top quality kicks but do my ****ing tits in as every kik sounds the same its why hardcore kik n bass are shit now imo........they are everywhere ffs

make your own......seriously

its not that hard just put some time and effort in.......read tutorials


personally i dont sample kicks from other tunes......they arnt clean enough and are too processed......get some clean samples and experiment :)


What's a good tutorial that a idiot like me can read?

Seriously I'm a douche when I try to wrap my head around this stuff.


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im not sure of any specific tutorials but youtube is your friend mate has allsorts of info on there ive learned a few things myself from there :)

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quote:
Originally posted by mj-dream:
im not sure of any specific tutorials but youtube is your friend mate has allsorts of info on there ive learned a few things myself from there :)



I can't find anything specifically there either.

Is there a walkthrough of any kind? Because I've been messing around for about 2 ****ing hours now I can't get a result anywhere near what I want. It always either comes out as way too weak or way too distorted.



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its just a process of layering,distorting,eq,filter etc and just play till you get what you want

tbh as good as a tutorial would be you really do need to play yourself as frustrating and time consuming as that is lol.......otherwise you will never get the sound you want.......just a generic distorted 909 kick


put a sample up of what you want and ill see if i can come close in one of my folders......ill send you it over:)


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Posted - 2008/07/20 :  15:35:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Rayovac's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by mj-dream:
its just a process of layering,distorting,eq,filter etc and just play till you get what you want

tbh as good as a tutorial would be you really do need to play yourself as frustrating and time consuming as that is lol.......otherwise you will never get the sound you want.......just a generic distorted 909 kick

Well I'll keep messing around... I hope I can eventually figure it out.


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Originally posted by mj-dream:put a sample up of what you want and ill see if i can come close in one of my folders......ill send you it over:)


Pretty much the sample I posted above.



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ive got a few clean kicks together for you.......as close to the sample as i can get and couple of extra kicks aswell :)

get me on msn and ill send em over

[email protected]


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