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Si Thompson
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 Posted - 2020/08/07 : 07:35:13
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
As a general rule in today's world, you know you're on the winning side when they resort to calling you racist. It's all they have.
It's an endless battle here in the US. That sort of nonsense is why Trump will win reelection, whether we like him or not.
In all honesty, Biden is such a scary prospect, Trump will romp home just based on that.
He's senile. Not in any fit state to even speak now. Sad.
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2020/08/07 : 07:44:03
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Anon.:
You clearly have a chip on your shoulder.
Just like most tory voters.
And if you dont think the NHS wont be up for sale, then you're the spastic.
You are a fking joke son, lol, absolute ringnut, just like every lefty i've had the misfortune to speak to. Cannot win any argument but throw the racism and xenophobic cards about.
Absolutely fking pathetic. Oh and btw, the crap you read in the Guardian isn't actually true.
Are tories much better when they keep calling lefties for anti-semites?
You're making the mistake of grouping people together. I have conservative views but I'm not a classic Tory voter. There's a big difference. Plenty of people only lent their vote in December to this Government. I don't use those pejoratives either, there's good and bad on both sides. I don't even use the term lefty. I use 'far left' and 'radical left' for the extremely useful idiots. I don't like far left or right.
Debating ideas is the way forward and truth seeking. Two people having a debate should be working together (non-partisan) and coming to a conclusion via facts and information. Political debate has always been a bit iffy but now it's completely toxic, and that needs to change.
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Posted - 2020/08/07 : 09:06:24
You think I follow left wing Politics because im against The Conservative Party ?
Whats there to debate ? All political parties are as bad as each other. We can come here and counter each others points til we are blue in the face. You keep banging on about illegals coming into the UK, that will never change. The UK is too soft .
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2020/08/07 : 11:52:32
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You think I follow left wing Politics because im against The Conservative Party ?
Whats there to debate ? All political parties are as bad as each other. We can come here and counter each others points til we are blue in the face. You keep banging on about illegals coming into the UK, that will never change. The UK is too soft .
That's a Strawman fallacy there, cos I didn't accuse you of being left wing. However, I think you've got a point in that all parties now are weak and ineffective. These politicians are influencers and not real leaders. I keep banging on about the invasion because it's a serious issue at the moment, which is now getting more and more attention because of people like me speaking out.
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Posted - 2020/08/08 : 07:35:20
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Originally posted by Anon.:
You think I follow left wing Politics because im against The Conservative Party ?
Whats there to debate ? All political parties are as bad as each other. We can come here and counter each others points til we are blue in the face. You keep banging on about illegals coming into the UK, that will never change. The UK is too soft .
Stuff you've said before might as well be taken from the labour party manifesto, so you are obviously left wing.
But i'll agree, none of us will get anywhere arguing about it. There are no real viable political options in the UK, it's totally been destroyed by corruption and greed. But as i've always said, its better the devil you know, and in the current scene, Boris is the only choice, but i'd still never put an X next to a tory candidate no matter what.
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Posted - 2020/08/13 : 18:48:26
Time to start voting besides Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat and any other stupid lefty party.
Time to vote for something alternative.
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2020/08/13 : 20:24:38
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Time to start voting besides Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat and any other stupid lefty party.
Time to vote for something alternative.
Nothing out there at the moment. It's all shifted left and far left.
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Posted - 2020/08/13 : 22:05:07
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Time to start voting besides Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat and any other stupid lefty party.
Time to vote for something alternative.
The Tories are not left wing.
The left leaning parties are as follows:
Labour
Green
Lib Dem
SNP
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Posted - 2020/08/14 : 08:04:06
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
Time to start voting besides Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat and any other stupid lefty party.
Time to vote for something alternative.
The Tories are not left wing.
The left leaning parties are as follows:
Labour
Green
Lib Dem
SNP
Smoogie. I've already explained why the Tories are a left wing government.
The following are left wing policies and/or actions that are typical of the left.
- Diversity quotas
- Uncontrolled immigration
- Policing of speech
- Far left Ideology taking over institutions like police and home office
- Failure to tackle illegal economic migrant invasion
- Failure to tackle BLM anarchists and bending the knee to the mob
- Weak on crime
I also explained earlier in this thread how the Overton window has shifted and so have people's political positions with that shift. This government are like Labour 10 years ago.
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Posted - 2020/08/14 : 08:08:51
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[quote]Originally posted by Mental_Adam:
The left leaning parties are as follows:
Labour
Green
Lib Dem
SNP
Left leaning? LOL
Try far left communists.
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Posted - 2020/08/14 : 09:25:08
SNP - Globalist/Socialist party who aren't for free speech.
Lib Dems - A party that deliberately gets into bed with foreign powers to subvert a democratic election/vote.
Labour - A party that calls each other comrade and are riddled with antisemitism whilst playing identity politics.
They couldn't be any further left if they tried. Totally detached from reality and not what the vast majority of working class want. The Tories are left wing, but the best of a bad bunch, something LeVzi mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Posted - 2020/08/14 : 13:44:29
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
The following are left wing policies and/or actions that are typical of the left.
- Diversity quotas
- Uncontrolled immigration
- Policing of speech
- Far left Ideology taking over institutions like police and home office
- Failure to tackle illegal economic migrant invasion
- Failure to tackle BLM anarchists and bending the knee to the mob
- Weak on crime
I also explained earlier in this thread how the Overton window has shifted and so have people's political positions with that shift. This government are like Labour 10 years ago.
The migrant thing is being looked at right now I believe so that will soon be sorted. Johnson was not the one who bent the knee over BLM either. That was Starmer and Starmer has been slammed for it.
My view is this:
Conservative: Social Conservative working man's party
Labour: Deeply divided by different factions. Some more further to the left than others but all power mad. Support comes from middle class dimwits, upper class sociopaths and single parents on benefits.
SNP: Want independence for Scotland. Power mad yet not a clue.
Green: Tree huggers
Plaid: Welsh version of SNP
Brexit Party: Protest group and threat to splitting the leave vote to let a remain/ rejoin party in. Labour supporters and or remainers seem to pretend to be angry Tory voters switching to this party to split the vote to help Labour/ remain out. Be careful of temptation.
Lib Dems: Who?
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Posted - 2020/08/14 : 17:45:28
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
The following are left wing policies and/or actions that are typical of the left.
- Diversity quotas
- Uncontrolled immigration
- Policing of speech
- Far left Ideology taking over institutions like police and home office
- Failure to tackle illegal economic migrant invasion
- Failure to tackle BLM anarchists and bending the knee to the mob
- Weak on crime
I also explained earlier in this thread how the Overton window has shifted and so have people's political positions with that shift. This government are like Labour 10 years ago.
The migrant thing is being looked at right now I believe so that will soon be sorted. Johnson was not the one who bent the knee over BLM either. That was Starmer and Starmer has been slammed for it.
My view is this:
Conservative: Social Conservative working man's party
Labour: Deeply divided by different factions. Some more further to the left than others but all power mad. Support comes from middle class dimwits, upper class sociopaths and single parents on benefits.
SNP: Want independence for Scotland. Power mad yet not a clue.
Green: Tree huggers
Plaid: Welsh version of SNP
Brexit Party: Protest group and threat to splitting the leave vote to let a remain/ rejoin party in. Labour supporters and or remainers seem to pretend to be angry Tory voters switching to this party to split the vote to help Labour/ remain out. Be careful of temptation.
Lib Dems: Who?
The illegal migrant situation is NOT being sorted, saying it will be sorted soon is hoping on your part. 10 days now in a row, even coaches are available before boats land. To me, this seems organised and is becoming another national embarrassment just like the grooming gangs. A guy was even arrested for filming this. The police force took the knee for BLM. They are under a Tory government. See previous posts about mob rule and strong leadership (That is so lacking right now).
No. A Tory government has never been for the traditional 'working man', that was supposed to be what Labour stood for. Even now with their leaning over on the left to appease leftists. They still are out of touch with working class Britain. This is all a big hangover from Cameron and his Lib Dem Tory Government.
Whilst I have no issues with your political opinions, usually, I agree with you. However.. What you've just replied to me, is a load of drivel.
Here's my solution.
Get back to solid, free, liberal values. Unite the country through this and British values. Sack anyone in the party or civil service that doesn't toe that line. Absolutely drain this insipid swamp within the institutions. **** these far left idiots. Destroy their narratives, push back, embarrass them at every turn. People follow strong leaders. Time to shut the borders now until a stringent plan is set up for LEGAL migration. I would have patrols all across the shores using the navy, and/or army.
Time to replace Saqid Khan and Cressida Dick too. Get proper recruitment into the Police. Get tough on crime.... Need I say more?
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Posted - 2020/08/14 : 18:43:23
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Time to replace Saqid Khan and Cressida Dick too. Get proper recruitment into the Police. Get tough on crime.... Need I say more?
I defiantly agree that Cressida Penis needs to go. Khan will have to be voted out but he is in Labour London so no chance there.
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Posted - 2020/08/14 : 19:28:19
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Time to replace Saqid Khan and Cressida Dick too. Get proper recruitment into the Police. Get tough on crime.... Need I say more?
I defiantly agree that Cressida Penis needs to go. Khan will have to be voted out but he is in Labour London so no chance there.
Khan is already at 40 odd per cent in the polls for re-election from what I've seen floating about. He needs to go right NOW.
Boris should cast a vote of no confidence and get it passed, and then have that man removed. This is what I'm talking about. Strong leadership, sending a message. Time for tough action..
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