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Mansy
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 Posted - 2022/07/04 : 19:22:34
So i dont know if anyone really knows me but ive been a solid hardcore listener/collector now for about 18 years and a producer for around 17 years as i instantly fell in love with it and wanted to learn the trade myself...its actually before tho as my dad listened to everything bonkers 1 era for years as i was growing up in the early 90's and i always enjoyed it.. i became fully hooked on hardcore when i listened to scott browns mix on bokers 11!
anyway as a long time fan i always wonderd what the scene was like around 1999 (bonkers 7) as thats when hardcore aparently died before being ressurected in the 01/02 (bonkers 8). did people still do events? did people still make tracks? would we even know if thats appening now? i sometimes feel its like that now because events dont always seem that full, htid in the sun doesnt happen and that was huge! anyway just wonderd if anyone could shed any light on it.
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2022/07/05 : 02:48:09
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Originally posted by Mansy:
did people still do events? did people still make tracks?
I lived in Southern California the between '96 and '99. Started raving in '98 while I was there. Due to use and abuse of drugs I was forced to return to Colombia (where I'm from). Long story short: if it wasn't for the internet, this site included, I would've lost touch completely of what was going on in the hardcore world.
Right before I left LA I found out about a few record stores that sold hardcore like subsonic underground. I kept up with the releases as much as I could. Again, I could still observe the evolution hardcore went through, even if at a distance.
I think part of the change was technology. People were still using/pressing vinyl. Computers were getting better. So good you could make it all inside the box. Keep in mind that back in '99 it was all hardware still, minus the sequencer (cubase in my case).
so yes, people still made tracks. This website is proof of that as well as of it's evolution.
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2022/07/05 : 12:55:09
During 1999/00 there was only really Scott Brown, Sy & Unknown, Vinylgroover, Brisk & Ham consistently releasing stuff. Scott Brown carried Hardcore for sure during that period.
I actually really liked 1999. I also liked Bonkers 7. Others didn't.
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Samination
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Posted - 2022/07/05 : 14:09:26
when I got into hardcore in very late 2001 (even though I already own Off Yer Nut!! 1 and 2 by summer 2000), Dutch Happy Hardcore had already died a horrible quick death and the brittish side was on lifesupport. Bonkers 8 was just around the corner to re-vitalize the scene. But tbh, I still prefer the 99-01 era over most other.
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Gazza1712
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Posted - 2022/07/05 : 16:07:28
Yep loads of promoters were still putting on events, helter skelter, slammin vinyl bought the hardcore heaven brand and were putting events on in 99 plus the United dance events,
Was also a couple of dreamscape events in 1999.
Music wise there was some very good music made in 99. Like already mentioned Scott brown. Sy and unknown, etc, I also enjoyed the Hixxy stuff that him and slowed down slightly and featured on his bonkers 7 mix. Labels like B Trax, cover up, legendary music.
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2022/07/05 : 23:36:54
For us Stateside peeps, this was when Happy2bHardcore Chapters 5, 6, & 7 were released. Frolic did a great job at finding what happy hardcore was still going around during that time between Bonkers 7 - 9. Happy2bHardcore Chapter 5 had more happy hardcore tracks on it than Bonkers 7 did, so it's odd that Bonkers 7 only featured 4 tracks out of the 15 that were on H2bH5.
I was just discovering Happy Hardcore in the 2001/2002 era so the Happy2bHardcore series was pretty much all we had here at the time.
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Sc@r
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Posted - 2022/07/06 : 12:10:28
I been listening to the music since 94 and raving since 2000, depends who you talk to but theres always stories about when the scene died, on who saved it and kept it going even in the 90s... its 2022 and its still dieing to some people, longest death ever! ha ha even though theres events every weekend, no producers all the time and we even survived the pandemic . gotta love this scene, we ain't going no where!
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Mansy
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Posted - 2022/07/06 : 18:39:27
Nice one guys! A nice little gap of knowledge filled in now as ive always been curious!
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2022/07/12 : 09:26:27
quote:
Originally posted by Si Thompson:
During 1999/00 there was only really Scott Brown, Sy & Unknown, Vinylgroover, Brisk & Ham consistently releasing stuff. Scott Brown carried Hardcore for sure during that period.
I actually really liked 1999. I also liked Bonkers 7. Others didn't.
Everyone knows that Bonkers 7 was underrated. It was not quite Bonkers 1 but there where a lot of hidden and a few unreleased gems on there. I think had Bonkers 8 been released in 2000 that would have been what it sounded like. There where some pretty good tunes from 2000 even though in a very small number from some of the bigger names which sound like a continuation of the late 90s. I have discovered a Hixxy mix from 2000 with a couple of tracks that he eventually released in 2001 as the first of the Raverbaby releases so he was clearly still producing then.
I think that 2001 might have had a bit more to it though. In 2000 every one seemed to be trying their hand at being a Trance DJ and I think even Scott Brown did give in and had one or two mostly unknown Trance releases
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silver
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Posted - 2022/07/18 : 03:59:24
what you talking about? hardcore will never die :)
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Samination
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Posted - 2022/07/18 : 16:02:23
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Originally posted by Sparkz_LuckyStrike:
Hixxy was even out of ideas come bonkers 5 in 1998 as his mix consisted of makina released songs.
Here's Hixxy's tracklists for his 4, 5 and 6th Bonkers mixes
Bonkers 4:
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Slashing Fun Kids*? Imagination 5:07
Los Bonitos? The Lights 4:10
Sequel Base*? The Third Chapter 3:05
O.M.G.*? Different Outlooks 5:22
The Saints? Fire 4:56
Sub-Ace & Aura? A Guiding Light 2:12
O.M.G.*? 14th Dream 4:58
Bananaman & Blitz (2)? The Quickening 1:51
Q-Tex? Equazion Pt. 9 4:03
2 Without Heads? U & Me (Scott Brown Mix) 2:23
Visa? Don't Go Away 4:03
Devil Licious*? By My Side 5:30
O.M.G.*? The One 4:24
Q-Tex? The Power Of Love (Scott Brown '98 Remix) 3:40
Unique? Distant Skies 3:20
Devil Licious*? Better Days
Bonkers 5:
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Hixxy & UFO? Eternity Has Passed 4:43
Elevate (2)? Virtual Dreams (Euro Mix) 4:08
O.M.G.*? Definition Of Hardcore 5:30
Quest (6)? Reach For Love 6:21
Hixxy & UFO? Back In Business 4:00
Hixxy & Sunset Regime? New Day Dawning 5:05
Vinylgroover & Ed C*? Bright Eyes (Select Remix) 4:21
Hixxy & Sunset Regime? Legends 5:37
Elevate (2)? Together Again 4:10
Sy & Unknown? Listen To The Ace (Hixxy Remix) 4:21
Hixxy & Sunset Regime? Desire 4:10
Sy & Unknown? Scratchin' (Remix) 4:54
Triple J? Follow The Sun (Hixxy & Sunset Regime Remix) 6:00
Scott Brown? Hardcore Vibes 4:10
Scott Brown? Rockin' Strong 4:43
Scott Brown? Liberation 4:08
Bonkers 6:
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Innovate? Captured 5:11
TKM? Sitar 5:16
Dougal & Mickey Skeedale? Revival 4:08
Force & The Evolution*? Perfect Dreams (DB7 Back For 99 Mix) 4:21
Innovate? Higher Ground 5:16
DJ Seduction? Holding On (Vinylgroover Remix) 3:45
Eumovator? Funk Rave Brother 3:23
Dougal & TKM? The Chant 5:56
Breeze*? I Feel U 3:35
Ramos? Sunshine (Dougal & Skeedale Mix) 3:01
Brisk & Trixxy? Eye Opener (Remix) 4:09
Mickey Skeedale & Doctor Who*? Emotion 4:42
Stealth? See Me Climb (Brisk's Electro Flava Mix) 4:39
Eumovator? Musical Life 4:19
Bang!? Hyperspace (Brisk Mix) 2:42
The Projek? Rhythm On Time 5:51
Euphony? Space Invader (Scott Brown Remix) 4:08
Quest (6)? Yin Yang 4:25
Neither of this mixes (all from 1998) had Makina. The only 3 outliers are the 3 first tracks on Bonkers 4 which are german hard trance, which spanish dj's tend to play faster with their makina sets. The track closest to being Makina-ish was Vinylgroover's The Rave Theme, which was on DJ Vibes' Bonkers 5 mix
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Icewind
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Posted - 2022/08/20 : 06:29:12
Bonkers 7 is mint...Innovate (dougal & tkm) made some great tracks.
The hardcore fans are still out there, waiting for a comeback in a big way, and personally I'm glad this site is still up. Without it, the only place left to discuss hardcore would be...Facebook! Wow.
Up and coming producers with some hidden gems abound...
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Thumpa
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Posted - 2022/08/21 : 18:38:01
I went raving a lot in 99 including a few Skelters and to be honest the raves I went to were absolutely rammed, yes a lot of cheesy stuff was being made including a lot of rip offs but hardcore always had a healthy amount of rip offs from 92 onwards.
Scott Brown's music got played by everyone during 99 and Hixxy would play whole sets of B Trax at Skelter etc, it was an exciting time musically if you could ignore the cheese...but then again looking back some of it wasn't too bad.
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Craigavon raver
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Posted - 2023/08/27 : 19:27:46
I actually got into hardcore properly in 1999! A guy from school got bonkers 6 and i heard that and i then bought bonkers 7 later that year, my first bonkers cd! (dougals mix is my fav) and the rest is history, i obviously own all the bonkers cds plus hundreds other, and i like and listen to all types of hardcore, though happy hardcore is my favorite style, don't listen to or buy as much now as don't have as much time and obviously not as much released these days, but like been said heard its died how many times over the years and its still here, HARDCORE WILL NEVER DIE!
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Craigavon raver
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Posted - 2023/08/27 : 19:29:50
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Sparkz_LuckyStrike:
Hixxy was even out of ideas come bonkers 5 in 1998 as his mix consisted of makina released songs.
Here's Hixxy's tracklists for his 4, 5 and 6th Bonkers mixes
Bonkers 4:
quote:
Slashing Fun Kids*? Imagination 5:07
Los Bonitos? The Lights 4:10
Sequel Base*? The Third Chapter 3:05
O.M.G.*? Different Outlooks 5:22
The Saints? Fire 4:56
Sub-Ace & Aura? A Guiding Light 2:12
O.M.G.*? 14th Dream 4:58
Bananaman & Blitz (2)? The Quickening 1:51
Q-Tex? Equazion Pt. 9 4:03
2 Without Heads? U & Me (Scott Brown Mix) 2:23
Visa? Don't Go Away 4:03
Devil Licious*? By My Side 5:30
O.M.G.*? The One 4:24
Q-Tex? The Power Of Love (Scott Brown '98 Remix) 3:40
Unique? Distant Skies 3:20
Devil Licious*? Better Days
Bonkers 5:
quote:
Hixxy & UFO? Eternity Has Passed 4:43
Elevate (2)? Virtual Dreams (Euro Mix) 4:08
O.M.G.*? Definition Of Hardcore 5:30
Quest (6)? Reach For Love 6:21
Hixxy & UFO? Back In Business 4:00
Hixxy & Sunset Regime? New Day Dawning 5:05
Vinylgroover & Ed C*? Bright Eyes (Select Remix) 4:21
Hixxy & Sunset Regime? Legends 5:37
Elevate (2)? Together Again 4:10
Sy & Unknown? Listen To The Ace (Hixxy Remix) 4:21
Hixxy & Sunset Regime? Desire 4:10
Sy & Unknown? Scratchin' (Remix) 4:54
Triple J? Follow The Sun (Hixxy & Sunset Regime Remix) 6:00
Scott Brown? Hardcore Vibes 4:10
Scott Brown? Rockin' Strong 4:43
Scott Brown? Liberation 4:08
Bonkers 6:
quote:
Innovate? Captured 5:11
TKM? Sitar 5:16
Dougal & Mickey Skeedale? Revival 4:08
Force & The Evolution*? Perfect Dreams (DB7 Back For 99 Mix) 4:21
Innovate? Higher Ground 5:16
DJ Seduction? Holding On (Vinylgroover Remix) 3:45
Eumovator? Funk Rave Brother 3:23
Dougal & TKM? The Chant 5:56
Breeze*? I Feel U 3:35
Ramos? Sunshine (Dougal & Skeedale Mix) 3:01
Brisk & Trixxy? Eye Opener (Remix) 4:09
Mickey Skeedale & Doctor Who*? Emotion 4:42
Stealth? See Me Climb (Brisk's Electro Flava Mix) 4:39
Eumovator? Musical Life 4:19
Bang!? Hyperspace (Brisk Mix) 2:42
The Projek? Rhythm On Time 5:51
Euphony? Space Invader (Scott Brown Remix) 4:08
Quest (6)? Yin Yang 4:25
Neither of this mixes (all from 1998) had Makina. The only 3 outliers are the 3 first tracks on Bonkers 4 which are german hard trance, which spanish dj's tend to play faster with their makina sets. The track closest to being Makina-ish was Vinylgroover's The Rave Theme, which was on DJ Vibes' Bonkers 5 mix
Hixxy didn't mix bonkers 6, thats dougals mix, and vibes mixed bonkers 6 FYI
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