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atomicb
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2004/03/31 : 19:14:53
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The said for every 150 download you get one sale... holy crap that's pathetic... that means 150 downloaded it instead of buying it...
No, ure looking it at wrong. The people that downloaded it and didn't buy it may never have bought it anyway. I.e. If I rip off a big expensive program, and use it, they've not lost any money - I could never afford to buy the program anyway, so either way they get no cash from me.
It's talking more about outside of ure market, for every 150 downloads, you'll get an *extra* sale.
The RIAA do have some explaining to do . . .
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"While some people seemed to buy less after file sharing, more people seemed to buy more," Sinnreich said. "It was more likely to increase somebody's purchasing habits."
Just read this bit.. had to read it again to be sure.. thank god people are seeing sense are realising that, by and large, it's a good thing \o/
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whispering
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Posted - 2004/03/31 : 19:48:40
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Originally posted by atomicb:
The people that downloaded it and didn't buy it may never have bought it anyway.
So i can download as much as i want, as long as their not worth buying? So lets say i hate Hardcore, and that gives me the right to get the tunes free. But if i love hardcore i have to pay? Isnt that like, going against your own?
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Menion
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Sweden
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Posted - 2004/03/31 : 23:44:01
a little bit off-topic buy anyway!
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Originally posted by atomicb:
If I rip off a big expensive program, and use it, they've not lost any money - I could never afford to buy the program anyway, so either way they get no cash from me.
Had this descussion with a friend before:
say if you pirate a copy of photoshop that you never could afford to buy, then they dont loose any money BUT you could afford to buy paint shop pro which probbably could do the job just as good, so in the end the company behind pain shop pro looses, big time!
have no idea how to connect this to cd-sales 
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silver
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Japan
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Posted - 2004/04/01 : 09:28:41
^^^ That's an interesting point, if you download tunes and are satisfied with the fact you have enough music to listen to you would not go out and buy any CD, whether or not you were going to buy the music you downloaded or not.
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Kyle_Buffrey
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Tanzania
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Posted - 2004/04/01 : 10:22:16
I think broadband has changed things. In the past when everyone had dial up access, nobody could be bothered to wait long enough to download a whole album. Therefore the odd mp3 would only affect singles sales. Now people can download an whole album in very little time. THey can even download a whole film without worry. It's quite possible that my knowledge of this issue is limited, because you cannot get broadband/ADSL where I live. Whereas my friends often have little gatherings, in which music not brung to the party, but downloaded as required. It all sounds like the I-Pod parties that some promoters organize, but it's great because everytime, someone will hear a record they have not heard before, people will take it in turns to choose which track to download, e.t.c. that's all in the village next to me! just 1 mile away dammit!
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So i can download as much as i want, as long as their not worth buying? So lets say i hate Hardcore, and that gives me the right to get the tunes free. But if i love hardcore i have to pay? Isnt that like, going against your own?
Yeah, but you don't want to pay from music, you don't actually like, do you?
MP3 can make sure, that we all have great cd collections, because not a single one is purchased blindly, without a preview. Some may say that this is the job of the music video, not mp3.
Although this only has slight relevance to the matter, i must say that it's about time larger hardcore labels such as raver baby and evolution started selling cd singles, because there is a big market for their tracks, not every raver is a dj , so it would great if they sold cd singles. They would be much more than 2000 sales for sure.
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Squishy Star
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Posted - 2004/04/02 : 03:23:26
...There aren't any places in NYC where you can purchase hardcore cd's or vinyl's?? And an iPod costs like $300. With that money you could buys decks if you don't have any already, like me. ...Like a month ago I bought this CD Player which suxs! I could have bought a cd! Anyways...
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whispering
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Posted - 2004/04/02 : 10:41:29
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Originally posted by Squishy Star:
...There aren't any places in NYC where you can purchase hardcore cd's or vinyl's??
Same here in Finland, thats why i order my CD's from UK, Germany, Japan, US, Netherlands or wherever the store is that has the record i want :)
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atomicb
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Posted - 2004/04/02 : 20:43:47
I dnt buy hardcore because I want to be legal. I don't care about that at all, I freely admit to half-inching a lot of software I shouldn't.
I buy hardcore, because I want to hear more of it. I pay my money, the artists gets thier money, and hopefully continues to make hardcore. If I hate it, I dnt want it to continue, so don't have to pay for it.. but why would u rip off something you hate?
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hy5
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Posted - 2004/04/03 : 07:59:16
No, ure looking it at wrong. The people that downloaded it and didn't buy it may never have bought it anyway. I.e. If I rip off a big expensive program, and use it, they've not lost any money - I could never afford to buy the program anyway, so either way they get no cash from me.
Here here man..........I one hundered percent agree with this.
the main problem we have is that electronica wasn't ever something you are supposed to get rich from.I see it as any promoter who makes mad cash isn't putting enough money into his parties.
Some things are worth more than money.
(P.S. my tracks are still free.Look for the title free freeform and I will always release some free tunes even if I decide to sell any cd's)
Ok so I took an IQ test and apparently im a genius....But what good is genius when its wasted on insanity!
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