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Chicken
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Posted - 2004/11/05 :  00:41:44  Show profile Send a private message
Ok, so I installed service pack 2 cuz microsux would not stop bothering me to put it on my poor compy. So it totally screwed my comp over, and I had to restore my windows and lost all files/fun stuff I had on my comp for the last 4 years (cuz I never backed any of it up). Stupid decision on my part. As soon as I figure out a way to fix my crap, I'm switching to linux, cuz MICRO$OFT CAN KISS MY ASS! ok, I'm done with my rant now. Beware of Service pack 2.
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Posted - 2004/11/05 :  01:12:24  Show profile  Send a private message
I had a lot of problems with it on my pc, fortunately I didn't lose any files (sorry to hear that happened to you). In the end I removed it. I did however buy a laptop recently with it already pre-installed, and it seems to work fine on that.

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Posted - 2004/11/05 :  01:18:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit virus's homepage
You didn't need to reinstall windows and delete all your files, I looked on the microsoft website, and it told me how to remove it. It didnt mess up my computer, i just didnt like it. And after about 10 times of telling me to install sp2, it has stopped.

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Don't run XP run windows 2000.

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Posted - 2004/11/05 :  05:11:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
XP does suck, i never had any problems with 2000 Pro.
now im running xp pro as a few VST's wouldnt work in 2000.
you can change the settings in SP2 so that it doesnt bother you with noises and downloads and security stuff.

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Posted - 2004/11/05 :  11:36:47  Show profile  Send a private message
My soundcard (delta 66) wouldn't work properly after installing SP2 and I had to do a reinstall, Though I allways back-up so I didn't loose anything apart from 4 hours, which is a pain in the arse. Im thinking of getting norton ghost, does anyone use this and is it anygood.

Also I read that microsoft are bringing out a new version of XP called, XP release 2, Great name, NOT!



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After installing the SP2, windows media player is the only program that doesnt work properly anymore :)

Theres a video clip about windows ->
http://www.StupidVideos.com/?VideoID=191 :p

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Posted - 2004/11/05 :  12:52:18  Show profile  Send a private message
Having said that my laptop seems to work fine, I'm having real problems trying to network it to my pc, for some reason I just can't get it to work. Maybe it's SP2 causing this problem, as the problem seem to be on the laptop side.

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post got delted when I clicked a link. B-e-a-utiful.

Anyway, linux is hard. But good.

go here:
http://www.ss64.com/bash/ <-- these are the basic filesystem commands
http://www.kde.org <-- the best window manager
http://www.linuxquestions.org <-- the definitive source of all linux knowledge in the world
http://www.kde-look.org <-- "skins" for KDE

and finally

the linux community is here for you.
http://iso.linuxquestions.org/version.php?version=2
^^^ I recommend the above if you have a good comp. Start DLin'!

Alternitavly, you can support open source by going out and buying a copy or a book that comes with a copy (as I did).

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Chicken: Although a powerful OS Linux is generally not for n00bs make sure you check out what your getting yourself into before you take the drive.

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I'm in the process of switching to Linux..... XP is the only MS product I still use these days...... and yes kiddies, don't do SP2..... SP2 is bad mmmkaaaayyy

And Chicken, Silver is right, Linux isn't for the faint hearted. I do alot of my work on unix machines and they're not easy to get your head round at first!

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Posted - 2004/11/08 :  17:04:33  Show profile  Send a private message
The worst thing about SP2 is that it strips 'professional' from the windows startup screen, so it just says windows XP. Now there really is no reason at all to pay the extra 80 quid for it over the home edition!!



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Posted - 2004/11/09 :  01:04:57  Show profile  Send a private message
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Originally posted by alimcpill:
The worst thing about SP2 is that it strips 'professional' from the windows startup screen, so it just says windows XP. Now there really is no reason at all to pay the extra 80 quid for it over the home edition!!





Not so bad if you actually have the home edition though.


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Posted - 2004/11/09 :  01:13:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chicken's homepage
Thx guys, I'm actually gonna partition(sp?) my hard drive so I can keep windows and get linux as well. My friend is doing this and it's working out really well for him. I gave him old computer parts to play with from a computer I took apart last weekend, so he owes me a favor- hes gunna help me with this one whether he likes it or not


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Edited by - Chicken on 2004/11/09 01:13:30
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Posted - 2004/11/09 :  03:19:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
so nobody else use's XP media then? interesting

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Just came across this... interesting!

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CRN TEST CENTER REVIEW
Windows XP Service Pack 2: Install With Care

By Frank J. Ohlhorst and Vincent A. Randazzese, CRN
9:00 AM EDT vr. jul. 23, 2004
The real surprise with Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 isn't potential compatibility issues, but the mayhem that can occur when SP2 is downloaded onto a system.

CRN Test Center engineers evaluated a release candidate two (RC2) version of SP2, and upon completion of the install on three out of five systems, the machines blue-screened. A message stated that "winserv" was missing. The blue screen occurred on both Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) and Intel platforms, and all systems were running Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 1 installed. Every possible avenue to get back into Windows failed.

To remedy the problem, CRN Test Center engineers reached out to Microsoft. The company provided instructions on how to work around the blue screen and uninstall SP2, but it didn't answer questions on what causes the blue screen or the specific systems that may be affected. Microsoft recommended using the Windows XP recovery console to boot the system and then accessing the "%windir%\$NtServicePackUninstall$\spuninst" folder.

Once in the folder, engineers had to rename "spuninst.txt" to "spuninst.bat" and execute the batch command "batch spuninst.bat." When that process was completed, a rollback of the Service Pack file should have occurred. That didn't happen. So the batch file had to be executed a second time, and then access to Windows XP was restored--but with some caveats. Once back in the Windows operating system, Test Center engineers had to open the registry and set " HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\RpcSs\Objec
tName" to "LocalSystem." Next, engineers executed the " windir%\$NtServicePackUninstall$\spuninst\spuninst
.exe," which prompted additional rollback changes to the registry.

After that process finished, some interesting events occurred. The rollback process uninstalled every device that existed in the PC. Network cards, video cards and all system resources were uninstalled. The PC was able to recover all of the uninstalled items, except one, upon a reboot. The graphics card, the Matrox Millennium P650, couldn't be recovered. Engineers tried to reinstall the drivers but, oddly enough, the Matrox folder was erased from the system and unable to be recovered. The only way to correct the problem was to go to Matrox's Web site and download the drivers from the support page.

The rollback also removed SP1; absolutely no remnants of SP1 existed anywhere in the system. To verify that problem, CRN Test Center engineers went to the Windows update page, and SP1 existed as a critical update, which needed to be installed again.

Before applying Service Pack 2, make sure a full backup of the PC is implemented. Imaging software, such as Symantec Ghost or Acronis True Image Backup, probably offers the best defense against problems caused by ill-behaved patches.

Microsoft's objective with Windows XP SP2 is to make it easier for end users to configure and manage security resources via new functionality and stronger security settings. Microsoft hopes the new settings will translate into safer Web browsing and improved security infrastructure for both businesses and individuals.

The smoke around the campfire, though, is that SP2 will wreak havoc on many security and firewall software utilities, forcing a redesign of antivirus suites, e-mail clients and firewalls. Test Center engineers installed SP2 on systems with utilities including Panda Software, Trend Micro, Symantec and Avast antivirus software, and all worked seamlessly. Symantec recently claimed that folks who download SP2 will need a Norton patch to co-exist with SP2. Yet Test Center engineers found that not be the case.

The functionality that SP2 brings to the table may make many third-party security utilities--such as popup blockers and software firewalls--obsolete. That functionality may push many security ISVs to rethink their marketing strategies.


Matthew aka DJ Underloop


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