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whispering
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 Posted - 2005/03/07 : 16:32:57
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Originally posted by mustapha:
Say it was a CD you were after for ages, really hard to find and you were struggling for cash....would you turn and walk away?
Yes, not very happily though. But it wouldnt be that hard, ive been wanting to get an iMac for ages, yet i dont try to steal one, or buy cheaper a stolen one either. Everyone knows, or rather should know, that they cant have everything they want. You've probably noticed too, that these days theres shitloads of people that think the world owes them something just cause they were born. Those people, in my eyes, are not any better then the filthy rich corporate crooks. Cause they would be the same, if not worst, if they had the chance. Blaah, im getting way offtopic now :p
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Originally posted by DjSamination:
what the **** is that for kind of reply? buying it when you can get a free copy. That's a reply from someone who sees himself being over the rest.
No, the exact opposite actually. I dont see why i would see myself being over the rest, if i want to pay for the stuff i use. Wouldnt it be you that thinks hes over the rest, cause you think your someway better then the rest of us, cause you dont have to pay for the stuff you use? ;)
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Originally posted by DjSamination:
I'm with all the chinese on this one, i'd take the copy instead of the original, depending on how many good tracks are on that CD.
And remember this, this is a reply from someone who lives in a nation that has one of the highest paying wellfair or unemployment wellfair in the world so Im not a poor ****tard in asia (im not offending asian people, im offending people who's moral is twisted).
Why is my moral twisted, cause i pay for the products i use? Would you really rather support mafia, then pay a little more and support the right people? ...and you say my morals are twisted? (referring to the chinese pirating industry that you brought up)
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Originally posted by DjSamination:
people can't see 2 sides of a coin at the same time
True :)
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Samination
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Posted - 2005/03/07 : 22:38:08
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Originally posted by whispering:
No, the exact opposite actually. I dont see why i would see myself being over the rest, if i want to pay for the stuff i use. Wouldnt it be you that thinks hes over the rest, cause you think your someway better then the rest of us, cause you dont have to pay for the stuff you use? ;)
Got me there, but then that's your view while I have mine. by the way, "dont have to" or "will not"?
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Why is my moral twisted, cause i pay for the products i use? Would you really rather support mafia, then pay a little more and support the right people? ...and you say my morals are twisted? (referring to the chinese pirating industry that you brought up).
I dont know why you refered to the mob, but then i used moral incorrect anyway, and it wheren't meant to mean you. (well it aint only in china, but it's only known that the chinese mob runs the chinese piracy part, while the other countries or more brought up with cheaper stuff).
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people can't see 2 sides of a coin at the same time
True :)
This part might be the only serious thing I took up, but It's very true tho.
Those who is against piracy only sees it harms the grow (imo, their money source as mj-dream put it very gently).
While people like me (well partially like me) considers copyright being a threat to a free society and grow of imagination.
To be honest, I'm not a high positioned 'Pirate', because I buy must stuff I use when coming to media (music, games, software), while true 'Pirates' wants everything to be free.
On this subject I'm very torn. I want to buy my products as cheap as possible, to the extend that the programmers/makers/producers still get their money for everyday products. Those who take the most money is those inbetween.
To be honest, when it comes to the larger scenes, it's not the artist (there's alot of artists that goes against their recordlabels on the issue that piracy harms artists), but the record labels that 'nags' the most, Those are the scum I dotn want to pay a red dime to.
-==[[[ I'm the most paying pirate on the face of the web, j00 d1g? ]]]==-
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/03/08 : 15:28:43
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Originally posted by DjSamination:
While people like me (well partially like me) considers copyright being a threat to a free society and grow of imagination.
Well, basicly i do agree with you here... partly. Copyright, when used well, is a good thing. Unfortunately this is not always the case. Big corporations will try to get as much money as possible, in all "industrial" areas. The current way is the only one that works at the moment, so untill someone finds out a better way, i see no reason to change it to worse.
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Originally posted by DjSamination:
To be honest, when it comes to the larger scenes, it's not the artist (there's alot of artists that goes against their recordlabels on the issue that piracy harms artists), but the record labels that 'nags' the most, Those are the scum I dotn want to pay a red dime to.
Your generalizing it too much. Many of the smaller labels are very respectful, few of the bigger ones too, i would believe.
Basicly me buying music is little bit like voting. I vote with my money, i use them to buy records from artists i like. Same thing goes to all products, if a store treats me like shit, ill never use their services ever again. I never go to Lidl, cause they treat their emplyees like shit and dont go by the laws they should etc. Money isnt that big deal for me, i much rather pay a little extra when it goes to the right people. Too much saving is like digging a hole to fill another one. But yea anyway if you can come up with a fool proof system thats better then the current one, id be happy to hear it.
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Posted - 2005/03/08 : 16:32:51
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Originally posted by djritalin:
don't forget to read your labels on your vinyls either, it says on there that you are not to use that record for public display or to be paid for it. every dj on here is a criminal. lock me up and throw away the key for hardcore beeawtch!!
don't stand and stare, just kick your legs in the air
Strangely apart from promos.
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