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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/08/30 :  23:57:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Still makes my record a rare one :)


Oh yeah, rare records. Which one are you referring to again ;-) lol

On a slightly different tangent, one of the most expensive records at any given time that I own is one of the Silk Cut 10" Picture discs, a rip of the Savage Garden track to the moon and Back. A few years ago it was selling for £75-80 on ebay. Why oh why didn't I sell it, I don't even like it :-/




You'll never get that much for it now!


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Posted - 2009/08/30 :  23:58:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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The record is "Dux Dux - This Is a Sound" ;)


It's the opposite of rare. Anything that is hugely commercial is pretty much always going to be easy to get hold of.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2009/08/30 23:59:07
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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The record is "Dux Dux - This Is a Sound" ;)


It's the opposite of rare. Anything that is hugely commercial is pretty much always going to be easy to get hold of.


Yeah I think I tend to agree with you here, they'll be a lot if these records in circulation. And there's quite a few copies for sale. What makes a rare record to me is one with limited pressings, and that you can't get hold of easily.
I guess peoples opinions vary on what makes a rare record though looking at others posts.



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Having looked into it I think that this record is my rarest, for the simple fact that I can't find it anywhere. It's a white label, and just says Donna - Gotta Believe limited to 500 pressings (or was that 200? I don't have access to my vinyl at the mo :-( )
I've not copied the whole track so hopefully not breaking any copyright issues?
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Edited by - Triquatra on 2009/08/31 19:23:24
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yeah over 4 minutes for a "clip" and at good quality is pushing it rather a little.




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Originally posted by snerkler:
Having looked into it I think that this record is my rarest, for the simple fact that I can't find it anywhere. It's a white label, and just says Donna - Gotta Believe limited to 500 pressings (or was that 200? I don't have access to my vinyl at the mo :-( )
I've not copied the whole track so hopefully not breaking any copyright issues?
**removed as per forum rules**



I didn't hear the clip but i know the tune, and it is by far the best mix of it! As for copyright issues, honestly who cares; the song isn't even on a label and even if it was the artist isn't going to care enough to take anyone to court over an mp3 clip, LOL.
Put the entire tune on youtube or something as i've not heard it for ages and it's impossible to find elsewhere.


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the forum mp3 rules care :)

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Posted - 2009/08/31 :  20:17:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
Having looked into it I think that this record is my rarest, for the simple fact that I can't find it anywhere. It's a white label, and just says Donna - Gotta Believe limited to 500 pressings (or was that 200? I don't have access to my vinyl at the mo :-( )
I've not copied the whole track so hopefully not breaking any copyright issues?
**removed as per forum rules**



I didn't hear the clip but i know the tune, and it is by far the best mix of it! As for copyright issues, honestly who cares; the song isn't even on a label and even if it was the artist isn't going to care enough to take anyone to court over an mp3 clip, LOL.
Put the entire tune on youtube or something as i've not heard it for ages and it's impossible to find elsewhere.



isnt it on JAL?

Donna - Gotta Believe != Donna - I Believed?
http://www.discogs.com/Donna-I-Believed/release/238744 this one is limited to 200 copies
9 sellers, the most expensive one is almost 10 pounds, undervaluated?


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Edited by - Samination on 2009/08/31 20:25:54
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Posted - 2009/08/31 :  20:27:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
Having looked into it I think that this record is my rarest, for the simple fact that I can't find it anywhere. It's a white label, and just says Donna - Gotta Believe limited to 500 pressings (or was that 200? I don't have access to my vinyl at the mo :-( )
I've not copied the whole track so hopefully not breaking any copyright issues?
**removed as per forum rules**



I didn't hear the clip but i know the tune, and it is by far the best mix of it! As for copyright issues, honestly who cares; the song isn't even on a label and even if it was the artist isn't going to care enough to take anyone to court over an mp3 clip, LOL.
Put the entire tune on youtube or something as i've not heard it for ages and it's impossible to find elsewhere.



isnt it on JAL?

Donna - Gotta Believe != Donna - I Believed?
http://www.discogs.com/Donna-I-Believed/release/238744 this one is limited to 200 copies
9 sellers, the most expensive one is almost 10 pounds, undervaluated?



I've got the same record and it wasn't on JAL, it's a white label limited to 200 copies, no name of the remixer.


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Posted - 2009/08/31 :  20:47:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Samination:and unlike anything else more popular







ehm, you need to read the complete post rather than just quoting a part of it.
I wasnt on about how it changed, I just said I didnt want it to revert back to that slow speeds, as it's alot quicker than most pop, trance, house and rock music out there (well except metal maybe), and that's the reason I liked it.

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Each to their own to the speed. I'm not saying I don't like the fast hardcore becasue I do, I love it, I just prefer oldskool.
But I would disagree with your comment how you imply that if hardcore went back to 120bpm it would be the same as any other music. Even when hardcore was slower it was still different from anything else, and it still is. It's the style, not the tempo that differentiates it. People can obviously differentiate it, otherwise older hardcore, trance, house etc etc would all be classed as one style if it was down to tempo alone.
And I personally think that oldskool hardcore and happy hardcore up to 1998 ish was/is far more different than any other music. I think that hardcore now is much more similar to other forms of dance music than it's ever been. I would even go as far to call some of it fast trance rather than hardcore, becasue all that differentiates it is the tempo rather than the style.
But that's just my opinion, and hey we're all entitled to our own view. But just consider mine fully before you dismiss it too quickly




yeah iv always said that, that at least in the past hardcore had its own style, now as you said its too much like trance.


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Edited by - raindancerob on 2009/08/31 20:56:07
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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We're not talking about the 90s, but about 1988, just for your info (maybe you could read ?). And sorry but I don't see many people listening to Hardcore from the 90s. I bet you don't even like the 120 BPM ;-)

And if everyone would have liked it, it wouldn't have changed.. take a track from 1988 and take one from 1992, you'll see the difference. It has completely changed... but WHY !?!??!?!? I thought everyone loved it Oo



Ok I am starting to get the impression you don't know what you're talking about. The progression and change within music is nothing to do with how popular it is, it is purely evolution. People are constantly wanting to push the boundaries and introduce new sounds. Without change music would get stale. And that goes across the board with music, whether it be dance music, rock music or jazz. Next you'll be saying that The Beatles weren't popular because their style of music changed many times since the 60's :-/
In 10 years time will you be saying that no-one likes hardcore from 2008-9 because the style has completely changed?
And I like hardcore from the 80's and 90's, and have many vinyl at around 120bpm. I would love it if hardcore went back to 120-135 bpm :-)



exactly & he clearly cant get it into his head as iv already said most of what you have.



Uhh you haven't said anything, you had poop arguments and 5 post after each other like everytime you post. There's a EDIT button, dunno if you noticed..

Yeah I agree with Snerkler this time, Breakbeat, as he said, allows you to be more expressive ( like you can dance to half beat, you can dance to 4 beat etc etc ) which isn't the case of 4-to-the-floor. Well actually this is the reason why I switched to DnB and Breakbeat Hardcore, I think it's more interesting than DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM :P

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It wasn't like one week we were all dancing to Hardcore at 120bpm, then the next week we were bouncing around at 170-175bpm.





yea well I didn't know about that :P

Still makes my record a rare one :)



if you read my posts you will see that i have said something.


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Posted - 2009/08/31 :  20:50:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
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Originally posted by raindancerob:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:











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Still makes my record a rare one :)


Oh yeah, rare records. Which one are you referring to again ;-) lol

On a slightly different tangent, one of the most expensive records at any given time that I own is one of the Silk Cut 10" Picture discs, a rip of the Savage Garden track to the moon and Back. A few years ago it was selling for £75-80 on ebay. Why oh why didn't I sell it, I don't even like it :-/




You'll never get that much for it now!



haha i was just thinking the same thing lol


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Posted - 2009/08/31 :  20:52:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by snerkler:
Having looked into it I think that this record is my rarest, for the simple fact that I can't find it anywhere. It's a white label, and just says Donna - Gotta Believe limited to 500 pressings (or was that 200? I don't have access to my vinyl at the mo :-( )
I've not copied the whole track so hopefully not breaking any copyright issues?
**removed as per forum rules**



its this one mate: http://www.discogs.com/Donna-I-Believed/release/238744 i also have it & every other mix/version of it, including the RSR versions. wicked tune btw.


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Posted - 2009/08/31 :  20:54:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
Having looked into it I think that this record is my rarest, for the simple fact that I can't find it anywhere. It's a white label, and just says Donna - Gotta Believe limited to 500 pressings (or was that 200? I don't have access to my vinyl at the mo :-( )
I've not copied the whole track so hopefully not breaking any copyright issues?
**removed as per forum rules**



I didn't hear the clip but i know the tune, and it is by far the best mix of it! As for copyright issues, honestly who cares; the song isn't even on a label and even if it was the artist isn't going to care enough to take anyone to court over an mp3 clip, LOL.
Put the entire tune on youtube or something as i've not heard it for ages and it's impossible to find elsewhere.



isnt it on JAL?

Donna - Gotta Believe != Donna - I Believed?
http://www.discogs.com/Donna-I-Believed/release/238744 this one is limited to 200 copies
9 sellers, the most expensive one is almost 10 pounds, undervaluated?



I've got the same record and it wasn't on JAL, it's a white label limited to 200 copies, no name of the remixer.



the cat # is the give away as to the label that its on Just Another Label & it is listed in JAL's printed catalogue from back in the day that i have in front of me :o) btw its not a remix its just that Donna Grassie who also sung the RSR versions did some versions of her own.


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Posted - 2009/08/31 :  21:06:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
anyways back on topic iv got some acetates/dubplates:

Wildchild - Renegade Master (Tall Paul Remix) - 1995 Master Room
Scott Brown versus DJ Rab S - Now Is The Time (Brisk Remix) / Babylon Zoo - Spaceman (Dougal Remix) - 1996 Acetate / Dubplate
Jazz & The Brothers Grimm - Get Flat - 1988 Polydor / PZ 21
Jinny - I Wanna Be With You - 1995 The Exchange / 12 MULTY 8
Michelle Gayle - Freedom - 1995 The Town House


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