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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  20:03:20  Show profile View artist profile Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage
In the topic (slagging match) 'hardcore was better 10 years ago' we posted this -

http://www.ionosphere.co.uk/AUDIO/Ionosphere_NOISE.mp3

as an example of evolution.

We did it because we wanted to,
regardless of 'genre', OldSkool, NewSkool, Freeform, Nuform, MyBudgieWearsBovverBootsform....

We did it because we can. It was fun. It was different.... but

it's not finished & only low bitrate but, at 170bpm, is it still Hardcore?


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UKr4veR
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  20:07:41  Show profile  Send a private message
that makes me cringe man (sorry)



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yaddam205
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  20:08:24  Show profile  Send a private message
Its intresting, and wow thats new. fresh sound.

I would say its hardcorem, cause later in the track it sounds alot like it, reguardless of 170 BPM

Love to hear uncharted elements of hardcore


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Negator
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  20:09:34  Show profile  Send a private message
sound nice ;)
a little bit like house....but i dont know it...


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NeXuS
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  20:12:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NeXuS's homepage
alot of what makes hardcore hardcore (to me at least)
is not only the bpms, but the energy that flows from it,
the rythm the music makes u move to, and the beats
that make you bump your head. And thats only just to
name a few. I felt sort of towards the end it picked up
the energy and felt a little more hardcore.

*EDIT*
needs somthing extra. the lead isnt interesting enough.


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Edited by - NeXuS on 2005/10/04 20:14:03
mnmcandiez
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  20:25:08  Show profile  Send a private message
Its nothing special. But not hardcore.

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Edited by - mnmcandiez on 2005/10/04 20:25:32
zippy
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  20:25:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit zippy's homepage
good tune...but i suuuper hope hardcore doesnt go down that road....bring back catchy melodies!

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whittle1
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  21:10:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit whittle1's homepage
It's unique i'll give it that!!!!

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bulby_g
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  21:35:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage
I would still class it as hardcore even though it does sound like london techno mixed with a bit pf phsy and sped up. I really enjoyed it, found it a refreshing listen. When the kick came in at the start I didn't think I was gonna like it but as soon as it got going I was loving it (HONEST OPINION:)) You gotta let me play that at a free party they would go absolutely mad for it!

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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  22:26:40  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage
Thanks for your opinions and strangely enough there's nothing there that I disagree with,
there's even a bit that makes me cringe (sorry UKr4veR) and that will be changed.

The point is if we liked it enough to put it out on vinyl and it got played enough, and
bulby g has already kindly asked for a copy to play out, and other 'underground' producers
liked it and had a go at something similar then the Evolution continues.

The desire to do the same old thing has gone, it's no longer exciting, creative or fresh.

This is 'Underground' and has bugger all to do with making money or gaining fame.
That only comes when the 'Underground' becomes 'Surface'.

To the producer it's still Hardcore, or D&B, or Trance, or whatever.....

but to the 'fans'..... ?



PS. Zippy, if you like catchy melodies, have you listened to the track posted on here,
'The Best Night Of My Life'?





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Edited by - Ionosphere on 2005/10/04 22:44:15
GaryMaguireXL
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  22:54:01  Show profile  Send a private message
One word for that.

Experimental.

I Like it and I love the acid Line.Reminds me of Future sound of London.
Kick is nice and punchy .

Good Tune

Fair Play :):):)




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SERA
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Posted - 2005/10/04 :  23:10:15  Show profile  Send a private message
not hardcore imo... has its own style... it is sort of grungey house + sped up.
(i dont know how to describe it!)
enjoyable though!


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zelachang
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Posted - 2005/10/05 :  00:34:46  Show profile  Send a private message
I wouldnt really consider it hardcore as of now.. but that could change within the coming years
still sounds good though


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mnmcandiez
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Posted - 2005/10/05 :  00:35:06  Show profile  Send a private message
I think hardcore will change but I never think itll be as soft as that.

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Needforspeed
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Posted - 2005/10/05 :  00:58:30  Show profile  Send a private message
lol it sounds like german/dutch old skool rave ...but it sounds like a noob did it



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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/10/05 :  01:14:09  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message
its dark and atmospheric and sounds kinda like psy trance. But by definition, it is freeform. At least, the way freeform was meant to be. Hardcore without boundaries.

I like it. A lot. Its progressive and acidy.

If you want a remix let me know. But I won't be able to get to it for a while. Like 6 weeks

Stupid being busy.


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