billybigballs2005
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 Posted - 2005/12/01 : 00:03:52
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by billybigballs2005:
but hixxy owns raver baby sonny boy.
Its his project, its not some faceless corporation he works for!
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Regardless of your views, music is there to be enjoyed thats the bottom line and even if a record label did make some money giving people music they enjoy why is that a problem?
Because good music is good music, and bad music is bad music.
Yes I know music may be "subjective", but once you listen to it enough, once you get to know it well enough you develop a better appreciation for things because you can compare and contrast many many diffrent artists, styles, production techniques, labels, sub genres,etc.
The problem I have (ok, not just singaling out raverbaby here, talking about generic UK hardcore that is churned out on any label) is that when I hear something like the aformentioned:
It make's me cringe the same was as (a little metaphorical situation here) a anorak hip hop purist might cringe when they see 50cent or the black eyed pea's winning awards for outstanding contributions to rap and hear people talk about them as "the best hip hop artists of all time".
The vomit-enducing Eamonn's and Lil Bow Wow's of their world, are the breeze+style's of my world.
Not asking you to agree, just explaining my outlook on things.
It may be "his project" but it doesn't mean he has to put any money that he gets from other "projects" into it.
You may have been alive 4 more years that me but I can be pretty sure you haven't listened to a hell of a lot more music than me and can be sure I am capable of "comparing many many diffrent artists, styles, production techniques, labels, sub genres,etc".
50 cent and Black Eyed Peas was a bad choice of artist as they have been within their scene for a very small percentage of its existence unlike Hixxy, Breeze and Styles who have been in the hardcore scene for a big part of it's life. All three of them were major players in the happy hardcore era and all three of them are the main pioneers of the Nu skool sound, something of a similar nature could not be said about 50 cent and Black Eyed Peas.
You answered none of my questions regarding money, however... even if RBC have made buckets of money I don't care anyway, more power to them.
Peace.
Personally I think their sound is mearly a happy hardcore update, replacing stab's with more offbeat bass's, a juiced up bpm eurodance structure and generic pop-trance riff strucutre.
Took the ques from evoloution from 2001 on and set into a "comfortable sound" way way too early on.
To say they are pioneer's of a new skool sound, is in my books, an insult to the entire new skool sound at the moment (year 2k5) in general.
When I listen to an average RB release and compare it to say, something out on camel records or kreatrix (for example, two tiny labels who dont a 1/1000th of what RB make) it really makes me wonder!
And in regard to the comparison to 50 cent and Black eyed pea's.. ok if that comparison doesnt suit, lets just say Will Smith (lol) and MC Hammer so!
Ah no listen, we obviously see things diffrent so im not gonna grind away at this any longer.
Apples and oranges eh!
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Yes thats the name I was looking for, sounds like 'scouse house' on fast forwards but I supose we all like different things. By hard dance I meant hard house or hard trance
How does raver baby sound like hard house? (bar say, cheesey dutch style hardhouse or something from 2001, but even at that, it wasnt exactly "happy", just too slapstick)
and hard trance? Deffintley doesnt sound like hard trance either. (german, dutch or UK hard style anyway)
BK? Dark by design? Fred Baker?
Maybe your confusing, hard trance with euro trance? (think rocco and bass t, brookyln bounce, 666, etc)
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