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Reala
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 Posted - 2006/04/09 : 22:37:08
Hi,
I am relatively new to remixing / mixing / creating music. So far I only have virtual DJ. Can you guys please recomend me some softare for sampling, editing, mixing, remixing, making beats, etc.
Thanks so much,
Marc.
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 00:24:02
for producing i recomend you start on FL studio... i think everyone starts using it
find more info and download a trail version at
http://www.flstudio.com/
just have a few mess abouts and if you like it then buy it...
also i recomend you browse the net and download your own list of samples as FL ones are SHITE!!!
aswell get yourself a libry of VST's... superwave for eample... very good :D
for DJ/mixing... virtual DJ is defo the best place to start... getting hold of unmixed hardcore on mp3's is a diffrent story tho... but once you do i would recomend you study how a track is made and "strucered" so that you can mix your own tracks...
if you want to go a bit more complex with your mixing tho... get hold of "Traktor DJ Studio" - alot better!!!
However if your a bum like me you still use VDJ as its more tradish lol...
anyways... have fun :) as your only starting out just have a little mess about and have fun with your music... don't try going seri like we all do when we start cuse it never goes down very well lol... we all look back on are first ever stuff and laff our tits off evan tho back then we buzzed out tits off it lol
take care mate :)
and i'll be intressed to see what you come up with :D
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Chris Deeside
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 00:40:14
go straight for cubase sx pointless startin on fruityloops
wen i went up to sx it was basically learnin from scratch again...
u need as many plugins an vsti's as u can get ya hands on aswell...and decent hardware/soundcards etc, otherwise yal get poor results.
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Blue Frequency
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 01:00:03
Ableton 5 for arranging/production/live mixing/remixing.
Wish I would have found this bad boy YEARS ago. I wouldn't have picked up reason or recycle.
http://www.ableton.com/
Get some decent monitors, vsts, and a midi controller.
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Reala
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 04:21:58
Thanks for the replies, keep them coming!
Will deffiently post results up here eventually =)
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 10:42:28
Not picking on you in particular Reala but why do people these days seem to think that mixing and making tunes are connected??? Sure allot of people do both but I mean... IMO all these tits who think a remix is two tracks mixed together need burying alive as they are corrupting the minds of possible future DJ's/producers.
If you want my advice you want to DJ at parties get some decks. Mixing software is great if you want to have a bit of a mess about maybe do some sets to upload to the internet but you will not be getting booked to play out.
If you want to produce get a production studio FL Studio, Reason, Cubase & Logic are the main ones. Get ready to put in allot of work, it's not easy!
Sorry if I sound like a tit right now I'm just trying to get something across which may seem a little harsh but I don't care.
Reala - This is not a personal attack against you :) Welcome to the board and all that.
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 10:53:35
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
why do people these days seem to think that mixing and making tunes are connected???
A very good point mate but it seems that most people are already corrupted into thinking that DJs and producers are the same thing. ffs.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 10:58:51
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
why do people these days seem to think that mixing and making tunes are connected???
A very good point mate but it seems that most people are already corrupted into thinking that DJs and producers are the same thing. ffs.
I must admit it does annoy me when people as the question in the track id section "Who's the DJ who made this" ect...ffs, not all tunes are made by DJ's!! I guess alot of people just don't grasp that.
I think it comes down to the fact that in many interviews alot of DJ's & producers alike have said that in order to get into the "scene" as a DJ you tend to get noticed by the tracks you produce. Good DJ's are ten a penny these days, but good producers are still a rare breed.
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 11:19:44
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I think it comes down to the fact that in many interviews alot of DJ's & producers alike have said that in order to get into the "scene" as a DJ you tend to get noticed by the tracks you produce. Good DJ's are ten a penny these days, but good producers are still a rare breed.
Very eruditely put mate. ....(this common misunderstanding f**ks me off so much I can't explain it without undue invective) : )
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charlieee
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 11:20:55
yeh i use trakktor dj studio n mixed vibes der alright but yeh
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Chris B
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 11:29:50
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IMO all these tits who think a remix is two tracks mixed together need burying alive as they are corrupting the minds of possible future DJ's/producers.
take it you mean the bootlegging generation bulby mate. At the end of the day yes now the kids think a dj is someone who makes tunes or remixes, most arent that bothered about music to look further into it so it suits them to think that.
I think there was actually a similar argument years ago though, when it became the dj who was star of the show instead of the producer when live mixing took off. To people like me thats what i grew up with, we'd listen to tapes and it was all about who mixed it not who made the tunes on them.
Marc smith, bass generator etc they did all also produce but we wouldnt even have new track names back then, just the big letters of the person who mixed the tape on the front. There was live pa's where you did see all of a certain artists work but we were defo more interested in the dj than who actually made the track, unless you were a dj and had to no names.
Anno its not the exact same thing but i cant get worked up about bootlegging as much as others do, hardcore started with people sampling all sorts from other tracks and throwing them together. As i said it isnt exactly the same thing but it isnt as far off as some people make out.
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Reala
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 18:12:54
I know the different between producing and mixing, the reason I asked for so much genre related software is because I am interested in both. I been working on mixing for about a month now, and I have enjoyed it, but really I want to give making my own stuff a go.
What is the difference between Fuity Loops and Cubase, which would you recommend? Both seem very, very popular!
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 18:31:07
I suggest trying out the free trials and look at the format of the software.
see what you can work with easiest, thats what I needed to do.
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mj-dream
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 18:43:37
pioneer have brought some dj software out....not sure if its anygood though.
google it
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Blue Frequency
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 19:04:43
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If you want my advice you want to DJ at parties get some decks. Mixing software is great if you want to have a bit of a mess about maybe do some sets to upload to the internet but you will not be getting booked to play out.
That is completely false. As long as you are doing something that isnt stale you will get booked. Just put out the effort.
The things you can do with a laptop over a pair of decks is absolutely insane. I suggest if you are looking to make AND mix your own tunes to go with software or at least a pair of CD decks.
http://www.ableton.com/index/artists/sasha
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"If I'm going to start DJing with this piece of software, as well as use it in the studio, suddenly, everything is tied together, and I'm always going to be looking at the same piece of software and in the same head space, doing the same thing, whether it be DJing or working in the studio, and that's what excites me the most. I found something that's a bridge between the two [sides] of my careers."
"Even though DJs are playing other people's records, it's the way you play it, the records you choose, the way you drop records, the way you program it, and your style. That's what it's about. This piece of software is allowing me to evolve that whole thing, push it forward into directions that I never thought would be possible."
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 19:08:55
Yeah sorry like I said it wasn't directly aimed at you, something that you said made me go into an off topic waffle.
Personally I'd give fruity loops I try first to see if you enjoy producing. Cubase cost allot of money so if you dive straight in and buy it and then decide you can't hack the amount of geeking involved in production or you just don't enjoy it your going to have wasted allot of money. Fruity loops is also easier to use so you can concentrate on getting to grips with things like track structure, music theory, effects how to use synthesisers etc without getting as bogged down.
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Originally posted by Baldo:
Anno its not the exact same thing but i cant get worked up about bootlegging as much as others do, hardcore started with people sampling all sorts from other tracks and throwing them together. As i said it isnt exactly the same thing but it isnt as far off as some people make out.
Yeah I know what your saying but I just can't agree. Throwing two tracks produced by someone else over each other in time (or not in time as the case seems to be) is as far off as you can get to producing a tune and using a sample/samples IMO. When your producing a track there is a hell of allot of work involved wheras any moron can badly (please note badly DJ's, thank you ;)) mix two tunes together.
It seems to me that these people simply want to claim credit for other peoples work to make themselves look good which in my opinion is bloody awful! If someone gives them friendly advice on how to take things further and to produce for themselves they shove it back in their faces which just goes to show they have no interest in doing anything but stealing credit for things other people have done. Anyway I'll stop ranting about that as I was trying to avoid going into too much on that side of things as it can go on forever ;)
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