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Jax
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 Posted - 2006/07/08 : 18:38:31
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815&q=911
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whispering
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Posted - 2006/07/08 : 19:06:08
If you like propaganda, that is a good one ->
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf
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djDMS
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Posted - 2006/07/08 : 22:39:14
Looks convincing to the untrained eye - but there are counter arguments for every one of the conspiracy theories.
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Jax
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Posted - 2006/07/08 : 22:43:56
cheers for that link whispering
id the government to see that video and give comment on it. there are lots of interesting point being made, i dont believe half of them but there is a lot of it that seems feasible
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whispering
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Posted - 2006/07/08 : 23:00:33
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Looks convincing to the untrained eye - but there are counter arguments for every one of the conspiracy theories.
Yea, theres a site for that Pentagon clip somewhere that explanes most of the stuff. But there are some conspiracy theories that are true, like ECHELON
"ECHELON is a highly secretive world-wide signals intelligence and analysis network run by the UKUSA Community (otherwise described as the "Anglo-Saxon alliance"). ECHELON can capture radio and satellite communications, telephone calls, faxes and e-mails nearly anywhere in the world and includes computer automated analysis and sorting of intercepts."
"In May 2001, the European Parliament produced a report on ECHELON which, among other things, recommended that citizens of member states routinely use cryptography in their communications to protect their privacy. In the UK, the government introduced the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act which gives authorities the power to demand that citizens hand over their encryption keys, without a judge-approved warrant."
Its believed that US with UK has spied on companys in EU member countries to win contracts etc. Most encrypt all data now. Fun stuff when you cant trust even your allies :P
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djDMS
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Posted - 2006/07/08 : 23:13:29
I wouldn't say the existence of ECHELON was a conspiracy theory. Just one of those things that is rightly kept a secret due to the potential shitstorm that would arise if it ever became public!
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mnmcandiez
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Posted - 2006/07/08 : 23:14:36
the government did it
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whispering
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Posted - 2006/07/08 : 23:29:09
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I wouldn't say the existence of ECHELON was a conspiracy theory.
My point exactly. It was a conspiracy theory, after the EU investigation, it wasnt considered a theory anymore. I wouldnt say rightly kept a secret when your own allies spy on government secrets. That should never happen in the first place.
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2006/07/09 : 00:22:47
http://bcrypt.sourceforge.net/
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cant trust your government, really...
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jenks
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Posted - 2006/07/09 : 01:57:18
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Originally posted by mnmcandiez:
the government did it
Definatly.
I've read all the debunking I can find, and none of it really proves the conspiracy theories proof wrong...
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/07/09 : 17:47:00
WOW!!! asif i sat and watch the whole of that [:P] lol
I gotta say its really f*cking intressing, i beleave half the sutff thats pointed out, some of it don't add up... but most of it is like "oh no" lol
Its just basicly feeding me more info to rant about down the pub or something lol... nice one... Very good stuff 
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whispering
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Posted - 2006/07/09 : 17:54:24
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
I gotta say its really f*cking intressing, i beleave half the sutff thats pointed out, some of it don't add up... but most of it is like "oh no" lol
Its just basicly feeding me more info to rant about down the pub or something lol... nice one... Very good stuff
If you want to go "oh no", you should watch those two documents ->
America: Freedom To Fascism
An Inconvenient Truth
Should be intresting, especially that Al Gore document.
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2006/07/09 : 17:55:08
all this talk about ECHELON reminds me off my favourite quote on bash.org
<Mercy> It's (assassinate the president) fun to annoy (charter a plane, pentagon) the NSA by (shoot George Bush) inserting crap into innocent (blow up congress) sentences.
<Mercy> Or so I've been (nuke Washington) told.
<@Ixnorp> One would think that the NSA would have slightly more advanced filtering techniques than regexp.
* Mercy Quit (Ping timeout)
<@Ixnorp> Or maybe not.
seen that video quite a while ago, gotta say i really do think there is some government involvement up to some level
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Hard Daze
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 Posted - 2006/07/09 : 22:58:48
It's probably the most diabolical conspiracy in american history. Alot of good evidence is from the eyewitnesses and statements made on 9/11 before the republican government could get their story straight. New yorkers reported hearing explosions before the planes crashed. And in a statement made by Donald Rumsfeld, the terrorists hijacked a plane that was carrying civilians, and the missile. The Alex Jones Conspiracy is another good documentary about the 9/11 plot.
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