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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  13:56:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
The piano in the CLSM tune sounds really nice!

I'm really pleased about that though, it's good to see though that not everyone in the scene is comforming to commercialisation!




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DiGiC
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  15:16:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
IMO The Hardcore euphoria was the biggest beginning of the end album ever and alot of scence kids bum off it, and hardcore classics too, when was the last time helter skelter even held an event? Why do people know of the name helter skelter? Cos they went o the internet n heard that it was one of hardcore's high points n decided to bum it too. I've loved hardcore for a few years now and ill love it for aslong as there is still a few decent artists n tunes going around but the scence will eventually fill up with non scence dire remixs like cascada's bull and other stuff, when that day comes where its all like that it'll be a VERY sad day but atleast the decent stuff will be underground

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jenks
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  18:38:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Phoenix:

CLSM are right, though, in my opinion anyway. It's really starting to piss me off as to how many new 'Hardcore' CDs that are coming out.
Ministry of Sound can f*ck right off as well, as they are the main culprates. I mean there's ANOTHER Helter Skelter CD coming out now!



I little reasoning would be nice :p

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I find it quite funny that i can walk past some of the chavs in my area with my HTID hoody on, and they don't even look my way as if to say 'oh cool, he likes Hardcore too' - because they don't even know what the HTID logo IS!


So what? Hardcore isn't a club, and if it was, recognising the HTID logo certainly wouldn't be a membership requirement!


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MegaJynx
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  18:38:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
I find it funny that everyone thinks that hardcore is in danger because it might CHANGE!!! god forbid ... Hardcore has been the one genre to take on SO many different styles, that they should just call it hodge podge hardcore or something. I can easily see it being in danger from greedy corperations and crap tunes, but new styles shouldn't be instantly rejected. Sure people from other genre's are slowly introducing their styles into hardcore (cascada), but it's still stayin within the realms of hardcore. Perhaps the way I think is because I discovred hardcore shy of two years ago, and I don't care for the older styles.

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jenks
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  18:41:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
^^ The thing that annoys people, is the idea that some artist will compromise their music just to make it more commercially successful, in other words - doing it for the money and not the music.



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MegaJynx
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  18:59:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by jenks:
^^ The thing that annoys people, is the idea that some artist will compromise their music just to make it more commercially successful, in other words - doing it for the money and not the music.



Ok, now THAT is what is killing the scene.


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Doc_Oxygen
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  19:06:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
This expresses my thoughts exactly. The commercialization of hardcore is a scary thing for me, people are trying to cash in on hardcores newfound populatarity and through this are watering down the scene. Tracks are going to turn very quickly to garbage if this continues as the scene is still very small and the current producers variably have a monopoly on what gets released and played. This has bothered me for a while, and i keep my fingers crossed that nothing more happens on this front, because it would invariably spell out the death of the scene.

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SCOOTHTID
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  19:35:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
hahaha

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Samination
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  20:48:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by jenks:
^^ The thing that annoys people, is the idea that some artist will compromise their music just to make it more commercially successful, in other words - doing it for the money and not the music.



Refering to this post, people would still slag me for saying that Scott Brown' shits sounds the same, and I dont need to mentioned Raver Baby crew right? =P


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Edited by - Samination on 2006/12/06 20:49:12
Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  23:34:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sk8SiM's homepage  Reply with quote
ahaha! I've been saying all this shit since day one guys!

to be honest i'm getting bored of it... just like i did UK hardcore praticlly almost a year ago! lol

I think you guys should know by now, my pradictions are almost always right... i pradicted all this ******** back then... and now your all sitting here talking about it, while me and a few others have been ranting about this ALL GOD DAMB YEAR!!!
and all we ever got in return was norrowmindedness! people thought we was in fact digging at the scene and artists themselfs rather then expressing an extremly important point!

So with that... 100% respect to CLSM! nice job boys! You've finally got people listening! Cuse me and the others voices havn't been powerful enough! Hey, I'm just a guy from a shithole known as birmingham! haha! no one could give a shit!

But indeed... give it a few years and alot of old timers will be wiping there arse with hardcore - FACT!

Enough is enough you know
I just find it funny how people expect this not to happen lol... you really think something could go commercail and not have people cash in!

holly crap - and now you probs understand while pps like me wanted a scene like hardcore to remain underground!


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Brian K
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Posted - 2006/12/06 :  23:49:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
you didn't predict anything, this has happened before and I'm sure it will happen again

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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2006/12/07 :  01:42:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit 95_was_the_time's homepage  Reply with quote
chavs and hardcore-comercialism = death to teh scene.

shall I tell you where the real scene is at? or should you know by now? ok I'll tell you. It's the 'squate juice' guys, call em tramps, call them greasy crusty pissfaces but don't call them ravers... ravers are now clearly clubbers/chavs.

and for music, upfront hardcore will never be REAL 'rave' music, real rave music is being made on labels like...........well, you know that 'hardcore projectz' online vinyl shop? all the ****ing lables on there basically. the chavs won't go near it because it is pure 100% rave.


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jenks
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Posted - 2006/12/07 :  01:59:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:

shall I tell you where the real scene is at? or should you know by now?



If the 'real scene' is full of dickheads like you I don't want anything to do with it, you're more annoying than any chav I've ever met.

I can't believe you don't realise how sad you are, you've already stated that you'd stop listening to hardcore breaks if chavs started listening to it, how pathetic is that? You know some people are part of the 'scene' just for the music, they aren't particularly bothered about its image or wether it's 'real rave' or not. People like this music for what it is, music. It could be underground or on TOTP it makes no difference to most people, can't you just accept that not everyone is as shallow as you are?

I'll stop listening when I think it's shit, at the minute I don't think it is, or is likely to be... on the other hand I'll start listening to hardcore breaks more if/when its good, in my opinion it's not there yet, could be because it isn't at its best at the min or because it isn't really my thing... regardless, I'll listen to what I like no matter how popular or unpopular it is, personally I'd rather let my own preferences dictate what music I listen to rather than some over opinionated tit on an internet forum.

If you pick your music by who else listens to it or who doesn't then I pitty you, but each to their own eh?


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Edited by - jenks on 2006/12/07 02:00:15
Xenochrome
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Posted - 2006/12/07 :  02:05:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Xenochrome's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
upfront hardcore will never be REAL 'rave' music



Oh please, oh mighty god of hardcore, give us your definition of "real rave music"!

























This should be good for a laugh.



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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2006/12/07 :  02:10:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit 95_was_the_time's homepage  Reply with quote
you talk a big load of ****ing shit i ****ing hate you when ever you ****ing reply to my messages, please stop follwing me around you stupid wanker. everything in that post you have said is WRONG...

where in my post did I mention 'hardcore breaks'? go on... ****ing look for that word. so why bring it up, I mentioned an online record shop (Im suprised thick shits like you didn't think i was just spamming it). the record shop has what I and the majority of real ravers call real rave/hardcore.

what you are listening to USED to be hardcore, it evolved to become un-hardcore by the time scouse house lovers got into it.

to be honest, if you are into any sort of 'hardcore' music and you wear shit clothes (like burrbery and addidas trackies) you are clearly trying to kill the scene. I want the scene to be full of cool people so when people go up to me in public and ask 'so, what sort of music do you like?' and you go 'hardcore' they aren't all like 'ooohwerrrr, chavvy music then?'

****in pricks

and by the way, why would I give a flying **** about opinions? what I told ya weren't even an opinion it was a fact. I've been into rave music since i was 14 so I think i know what i'm ****ing talking about. I KNOW when somthing or some type of social group could kill a scene.

I think hixxy is a bellend now, I remember talking to him at a rave about bonkers1&2 and how they could never be defeated, and he just starred at me... I couldn't beleive it. a few other bellends in the scene are darren styles who makes 'softcore' and is claiming it's hardcore and he's real 'hardcore to the bone' etc. what a ****ing joke. it's fools like him that loose respect after doing somthing fantastic ('force and styles' anyone?)

the whole scene is a JOKE now, it HAS to be, mc storm just goes on any forum slaggin peoples opinions off, ush.net do way to much 'freeform' arse licking, AND i'm probably the only real raver left on planet earth listening to hardcore that has the hardcore sound of 91-94 because that actually IS hardcore. and I'm talking UK there.


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