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do you think the name 'raver' needs redefining?

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Smoogie
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Posted - 2007/03/11 :  20:03:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
I went to a club the other night! Am I a raver then? hmm. I say im raving when listening to Bouncy Techno on my I-pod and buzzing on pills, its not being at a rave but it is good enough for me!

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Knightmare
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Posted - 2007/03/11 :  21:44:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Knightmare's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by bent_bananna:
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I dress in all black, wear eyeliner,


So your a cross dressing raver?



you have a very loose definition of crossdressing mate :p


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Posted - 2007/03/11 :  21:53:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Marshy88's homepage  Reply with quote
95 you are so boring

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bent_bananna
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Posted - 2007/03/11 :  22:40:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bent_bananna's homepage  Reply with quote
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quote:Originally posted by bent_bananna:

quote:I dress in all black, wear eyeliner,



So your a cross dressing raver?



you have a very loose definition of crossdressing mate :p





Yes because men wearing make up is normal.....


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charlieee
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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  09:33:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit charlieee's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Knightmare:
since we don't really have kandi culture here and stuff, to me a raver is just someone who likes to go to raves and has lost his or her heart to electronic music.

What bothers me about todays meaning of "raver" is that when you mention to ppl you're a raver they automaticly assume that you run around in clothes with clashing colours, pants that seen too big, a pacifier around your neck waving glowsticks around like a raving idiot.



i agree with you their 100% with both statments.
for me though peeps at my skool they automatically think pretty much wat u said about clothes and glowstick and also they think take e and have a fit for a style of dancing.
so gay i hate it especially when dis one person at my skool who is a wanna be lad who tags n all and into hip hop and then bags me out cause i go to raves (only 2 lol) and the music i listen to. n im lyk hello? most lads go to raves and listen to this style of music...kinda mostly gabber and hardstyle but dats close enough


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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  09:45:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit luminate's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by charlie4u:
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Originally posted by Knightmare:
since we don't really have kandi culture here and stuff, to me a raver is just someone who likes to go to raves and has lost his or her heart to electronic music.

What bothers me about todays meaning of "raver" is that when you mention to ppl you're a raver they automaticly assume that you run around in clothes with clashing colours, pants that seen too big, a pacifier around your neck waving glowsticks around like a raving idiot.



IMPORTANT LIFE LESSON: ppl are stupid, why listen to what they say? do ur own thing n hav fun doin it
i agree with you their 100% with both statments.
for me though peeps at my skool they automatically think pretty much wat u said about clothes and glowstick and also they think take e and have a fit for a style of dancing.
so gay i hate it especially when dis one person at my skool who is a wanna be lad who tags n all and into hip hop and then bags me out cause i go to raves (only 2 lol) and the music i listen to. n im lyk hello? most lads go to raves and listen to this style of music...kinda mostly gabber and hardstyle but dats close enough





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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  11:22:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bulby_g's homepage  Reply with quote
  • You clearly know nothing about studios & production or illegal/free raves.

  • You chat a whole load of crap.

  • You're a tit.


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Righteous9
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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  12:39:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Righteous9's homepage  Reply with quote
I would say anyone who goes to raves, listens to Rave music (Any Genre, not just Hardcore) or likes the EDM/Underground scene is a raver... Ravers are very diverse, you can't put a label on them... I know most of you are in the UK, but America is way different, P.L.U.R. remember?!, you don't even need to know how to dance, just move your body to the music, or chill in the corner, I would say the music is really what raving is about, drugs yeah, but don't exclude anyone, color, race, creed, etc., etc.!, you know I think about this all the time with myself because I don't have a lot of money to get to every party... But yeah, even hicks can be ravers!, There's a lot of country kids out there, and some ravers I know listen to Punk Rock outside of the scene.... My best "Raver" friend spins UK Garage & French House!, he's been in the scene since forever, like 92', I started out listening to Jungle, Drop Bass Network & Massive, in 96'........) People like DJ Snuggles (First ever all DnB Show in America) when Kandi raves we're the culture, Just enjoy what you want, the kids have grown up a lot and live totally different lives, $$$ you need!, Don't listen to the fn jaded wannabes!, That's my opinion, You're talking about HTID, 95?, well find out if it's a rave, most people don't know at all why it's music, it's Underground, only a few people get it... Respect people's opinions!

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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  15:57:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
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Knightmare
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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  17:15:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Knightmare's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by bent_bananna:
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quote:Originally posted by bent_bananna:

quote:I dress in all black, wear eyeliner,



So your a cross dressing raver?



you have a very loose definition of crossdressing mate :p





Yes because men wearing make up is normal.....



I defy the standards of society...
and eyeliner looks ****in' cool :p (if you don't go overkill with it)


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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  19:03:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
ok, define raver, I'll define modern-raver for you.... AND IN ONE WORD......'HYPERCRIT' no really. I see that thread where you all hate that ravers-choice line up, I take it most of you voted, and looking that in perspective, doesn't that make you hypercits? I'm sure it's not been fixed.... so raver is all about lying is it? you say you don't like darren styles and all that softcore but really YOU DO??? eh? I'm not trying to stir things up and if you think that then fair enough because this message will come across that way but REALLY, I'm not trying to stir things up. I really don't understand what a raver is these days.... Turning up to a HTID doesn't make you a raver, listening to clublandextreme hardcore 5 in your soaped up corsa really loud doesn't make you a raver, it just makes you stupid.

you even NEED mc storm to tell you are a raver, how low can you be? I would expect it from 14 year olds, but most of you like me are in your 20s right?

a real raver, is all about going to illegal events and traverling the west coast of the UK with gypsies, that's what a REAL raver is all about, a real raver is all about having friends who are members of greenpeace. a real raver is all about having tapepacks from 91-95 and ripping them onto your stolen computer, (not that I have a stolen computer)

yeah, I know what a damn raver is 4sure, I've had a bit to drink tonight but even if i was sober id still saying be same thigns anyway so don[t even judge me.

as for that ush dot net lot, they've got fed up of the whole styles bashing, it seems like it's a religion so we don't need to tell them, their safe, they know what REAL hardcore is about

oh and while im on the subject of real hardcore i can tell you, mnost of you UK ppl anyway i don't care about the rest of europe, (you're behind us on music anyway but i don't mean that in a nasty way) ok ok, so real hardcore is about 20somthing in a small town knowing a mate of a mate of a mate who has like a real out of date computer, making the best ****ing hardcore on a really ****ing crap, lo fi tracker, and using breakbeats instead of lazy 4/4 kicks, if you go back to 91, and without me sounding like a ardkore gramp-pa which i aint, is somthing you 20somthings kids now should be listnienng to,

a bit like folk music, you need your roots, so why are all these kids disrespecting the grampa like theories of **** off breakbeats, i want kickdrums at 175bpm, you lot blatently aren't skaters n that, you are just idiots who look like you go to too many of those handbag house nights, driving in your modern sports cars because your family is rich and you don't jack to desearve the money you are wasting,

also, you are the same ppl who if you are a producer, you want your studio to look like a hair salon place, with it all done by a ****ing wood carpenter whos just ripped you off, with a big **** off mixing desk just to make the studio look good, HELL! AND WOW! if i had a studio, mine would just be a floating shed on a swamp with my pentium 1 PC running a tracker and maybe an akais1000, that, would do my fine....

now look at it, 14 year old mums being asda-ardcore for their babies now is it? wow that how it looks on perspective,

its a shame realleh (haha i sounded northern there int it) cause i can't do shit, if i had the power, i OR actually, if i could see the future as a kid in 1991, cause i was about 6 or 7 in 1991 if i could see the future i probably would of said right! i'm FINE with the split of late 93, that doesn't bother me, it's just the post 2000 era im worried about, and yeah, it REALLY did go down hill from there

what even happened to ruffness? and real ravers huh? cause i would class my self as a real raver even when i've only been to aqfew raves, ive seen so much scum who know NOWT about the scene, all they wanna do is party??? yea h wel that's what you would say! i mean come on, you don't get folkies at folk festivals who just go there for the booze, they go there for the tunes man! i mean, when i hear some of that clubland shite, i can't stop thinkin im gonna put on a folk cd anyway

ok. So i've talked about the realness of ravers, i've talked about studios and stereotypes and hypercrits, Now i'm going to talk about Narrow-mindiness.

ok, i'll start off by telling you that i grow up listening to soo many bands, when i was 14, 15 i DIDN'T just stick to one genre, and god help all those narrowminded bastards now eh? like, you ONLY listen to hardcore cause drum'n'bass is for other ppl or somthing? wtf is all that about, i remember at college some one saying to me if you're gonna be a dj, you don't just mix 1 style you mix all styles, RIGHT? so how can anyone come up with so much shit? actualyl, ts not the dance heads who think like that, it's mainly the rockers, if it's not got guitars in it, they won't listen to it, .... < and when you get that in the dance heads mind, things can only get worse for the scene

ok, now i'm going to talk about adverts., Now most of the adverts i've seen would be a pass in america for trash tv, i mean, wtf has a semi nacked girl got to do with hardcore? ok, i see the pun? but it really does givr hardcore a bad eimEGJG

roh **** IT! I;M NOW GONNA TELL MY MEATS I DON'T EVEN MAKE HARDCORE NO MORE BECAUSE OF THAT IMAGE STUCK ON BY YOU FOOLS, im not gonna just say i work with breakbeats and leave it at that,

sorry but it's too late, you've destroyed my scene righ tnow.

too bad,



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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  19:49:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit wong's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
I went to a club the other night! Am I a raver then? hmm. I say im raving when listening to Bouncy Techno on my I-pod and buzzing on pills, its not being at a rave but it is good enough for me!




av u got the dj vince set from raveworld 96. f*ckin wicked bouncy techno set from the legend that is vince


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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  20:09:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris B's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by wong:
av u got the dj vince set from raveworld 96. f*ckin wicked bouncy techno set from the legend that is vince




Respect mate, noticed recently you've got wkd taste in the harder stuff.

Vince is amazin whatever style, the real early rave or bangin old hardcore and that set your talkin about is probs the best of his i've heard.



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Originally posted by Chris B:
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Originally posted by wong:
av u got the dj vince set from raveworld 96. f*ckin wicked bouncy techno set from the legend that is vince




Respect mate, noticed recently you've got wkd taste in the harder stuff.

Vince is amazin whatever style, the real early rave or bangin old hardcore and that set your talkin about is probs the best of his i've heard.





to be honest mate ive only just discovered vince the last couple a months ago or so, but every mix i download from him is top notch bouncy techno or new style gabba, its funny really, just as i think i no everythin bout hardcore n heard everythin sumthin else pops up its wicked thats wot i luv bout the scene, learnin more bout it every day.

big up man, respect


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Posted - 2007/03/12 :  20:24:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris B's homepage  Reply with quote
Jus keep looking mate there is feckin loads int they, sure you said your on livesetsonline i must start goin. Get basically all my sets off ush or nioldskool.

Next time i have some time will upload a couple sets you'll like.


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