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darson
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 Posted - 2007/04/14 : 15:36:17
Ive read a few threads and see people talking about many different styles of hardcore eg upfront, breakbeat, gabba
I was wondering if some one could list me all the different types of hardcore they know out there, and if so, a song you think would best represent it.
[[[links 2 song demos would be good but necessary!!!]]]
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Dj Fonz
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 15:37:20
IMO there is only 2
Good and Bad
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 18:06:18
soft pop softcore - anything by raverbaby.
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Pope C XXIII
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 18:06:40
Gabber - 160 to 200 bpm, distorted kicks, frequently accompanied by a piercing synth sound known as a hoover. Examples: Angerfist, Ophidian, Nosferatu, Neophyte, DJ Pain, and Evil Activities.
Speedcore - 240 to 1000 bpm. Gabber, but extremely fast and intense. Lots of sampling and guitars too. Examples: Disciples of Annihilation, Fraughman, and Gabber Front Berlin.
Terror - 170 to 400 bpm. Fast gabber, but spooooooky! Lots of horror movie samples. (not sure of any examples.)
UK/Happy Hardcore - 170 to 180 bpm. Like a very happy trance song, sped up and paired with an offbeat bass. Examples: Hixxy, Cube::Hard, Sy & Unknown, Breeze & Styles, Brisk, Ham, and recent Scott Brown.
Freeform - 170 to 180 bpm. Like UK, but without all the happy. Lots of acid sounds, extremely complex melodies, and only very rarely vocals. Examples: Alex Szhala, DJ Rx, Sharkey.
Breakbeat Hardcore - 120 to 155 bpm. Breakbeats + lots of very classic sounds (like the M1 Piano, the original Hoover, etc.) Includes (very early)happy hardcore (which has a huge emphasis on being fun, and often has pitch shifted vocals) and darkcore, which is the precursor to modern darkstep, with bigger basses and lots of horror movie samples. Examples : Luna C, Acen, and early Prodigy.
Rotterdam Hardcore - 140 - 180 bpm. The earliest form of hardcore. Basically gabber with a less distorted kick, more sampling, and a lot of the sounds of breakbeat hardcore. Examples: Mescalinum United, Rotterdam Termination Source, and lots and lots of Dutch dudes in their 20's in the 90's.
Bouncy Techno - 160 - 185 bpm. Scotland's early 90's answer to the UK based Breakbeat scene. Pretty much the happy version of the Rotterdam sound, although many bouncy tracks are still pretty dark. Examples: early Scott Brown, some Paul Elstak, Bass Generator, and some recent revival by DJ Stormtrooper.
Oldskool Happycore - 165 - 180 bpm. Everyone got really angry at breakbeat for getting really cheesy sounding, and they started to shift towards darkcore. Then, out of nowhere, comes the SMD series, which put back the 4beat (though not the distortion) of early hardcore, and ramp up the cheesiness like none other. As such, an entire scene is created of punchy kicks and enough cheese to keep France happy for a millenium. Examples: early Sy, early Billy Bunter.
Breakcore - 180 bpm - ???. Aphex Twin like drum programming, gabber kicks (though not always), and all the sampling you could ever want. Oh, and if you're really 1337, make it in 7/4 time. That's breakcore. Examples: Venetian Snares, Duran Duran Duran, Shitmat, Bong Ra, and Sickboy.
Songs that represent each genre:
Gabber - One of these Days - Neophyte
Speedcore - New York City Speedcore - Disciples of Annihilation
Freeform - Dryad Machine - Alex Szhala
Breakbeat - Trip II the Moon - Acen
Rotterdam - Poing - Rotterdam Termination Source (or We Have Arrived by Mescalinum United, considering it is the first hardcore track ever.)
Bouncy - Check out some of the mixes by JSPR that he posted on the forums. They're a nice mix of Bouncy and Rotterdam.
Breakcore - All the Children Are Dead - Venetian Snares
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Leto
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 18:52:10
^^Pretty good, although I would change your title of breakbeat hardcore to hardcore breaks.
Breakbeat hardcore is the same speed as UK hardcore and freeform, and is along the lines of songs by Ponder, Cube::Hard, Milo, Darwin, Poison Rain, etc. etc.
And don't forget about Lee UHF and Nu Foundation in your Bouncy Tekno section.
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darson
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 19:36:27
damn pope u did ur homework
thanks for all the input guys
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Hard Daze
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 20:43:34
Hey don't forget happy-gabber, which is just as the name implies, a mix of happy hardcore and gabber. Mostly it's sped up happy vocals set to gabber beats.
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Chris B
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 21:26:43
Can someone link me to some bouncy techno by stormtrooper or Lee , maybe its just my definitions different but whatever i heard of them jus sounded like the banging end of uk hardcore or freeform.
I do like it but not sure if i'd call it bouncy techno, some stuff by nu foundation and scott majestik though i would say has "that" sound
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Leto
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Posted - 2007/04/14 : 22:17:25
^^Lee has some stuff along the same lines. Or at least his label does...
Stormtrooper and Robbie Long & AMS made some pretty banging tuff mixes, weren't really bouncy techno though.
Don't forget about Devastate, where the hell does he fall under hardcore?!
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Gav001
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Posted - 2007/04/15 : 16:43:45
Check out this site it might help you tell the difference
http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html
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jack5724
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Posted - 2007/04/15 : 17:07:00
skill the pope knowing his stuff lol
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darson
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Posted - 2007/04/15 : 18:30:40
thanks gav that website was extremely helpful, il enjoy looking through the whole thing. it should really help me find myself in my search for good tasting dance music.
excellent stuff
and i had no idea this was on di.fm!
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Marshy88
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Posted - 2007/04/16 : 14:47:03
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Originally posted by Pope C XXIII:
Gabber - 160 to 200 bpm, distorted kicks, frequently accompanied by a piercing synth sound known as a hoover. Examples: Angerfist, Ophidian, Nosferatu, Neophyte, DJ Pain, and Evil Activities.
Speedcore - 240 to 1000 bpm. Gabber, but extremely fast and intense. Lots of sampling and guitars too. Examples: Disciples of Annihilation, Fraughman, and Gabber Front Berlin.
Terror - 170 to 400 bpm. Fast gabber, but spooooooky! Lots of horror movie samples. (not sure of any examples.)
UK/Happy Hardcore - 170 to 180 bpm. Like a very happy trance song, sped up and paired with an offbeat bass. Examples: Hixxy, Cube::Hard, Sy & Unknown, Breeze & Styles, Brisk, Ham, and recent Scott Brown.
Freeform - 170 to 180 bpm. Like UK, but without all the happy. Lots of acid sounds, extremely complex melodies, and only very rarely vocals. Examples: Alex Szhala, DJ Rx, Sharkey.
Breakbeat Hardcore - 120 to 155 bpm. Breakbeats + lots of very classic sounds (like the M1 Piano, the original Hoover, etc.) Includes (very early)happy hardcore (which has a huge emphasis on being fun, and often has pitch shifted vocals) and darkcore, which is the precursor to modern darkstep, with bigger basses and lots of horror movie samples. Examples : Luna C, Acen, and early Prodigy.
Rotterdam Hardcore - 140 - 180 bpm. The earliest form of hardcore. Basically gabber with a less distorted kick, more sampling, and a lot of the sounds of breakbeat hardcore. Examples: Mescalinum United, Rotterdam Termination Source, and lots and lots of Dutch dudes in their 20's in the 90's.
Bouncy Techno - 160 - 185 bpm. Scotland's early 90's answer to the UK based Breakbeat scene. Pretty much the happy version of the Rotterdam sound, although many bouncy tracks are still pretty dark. Examples: early Scott Brown, some Paul Elstak, Bass Generator, and some recent revival by DJ Stormtrooper.
Oldskool Happycore - 165 - 180 bpm. Everyone got really angry at breakbeat for getting really cheesy sounding, and they started to shift towards darkcore. Then, out of nowhere, comes the SMD series, which put back the 4beat (though not the distortion) of early hardcore, and ramp up the cheesiness like none other. As such, an entire scene is created of punchy kicks and enough cheese to keep France happy for a millenium. Examples: early Sy, early Billy Bunter.
Breakcore - 180 bpm - ???. Aphex Twin like drum programming, gabber kicks (though not always), and all the sampling you could ever want. Oh, and if you're really 1337, make it in 7/4 time. That's breakcore. Examples: Venetian Snares, Duran Duran Duran, Shitmat, Bong Ra, and Sickboy.
Songs that represent each genre:
Gabber - One of these Days - Neophyte
Speedcore - New York City Speedcore - Disciples of Annihilation
Freeform - Dryad Machine - Alex Szhala
Breakbeat - Trip II the Moon - Acen
Rotterdam - Poing - Rotterdam Termination Source (or We Have Arrived by Mescalinum United, considering it is the first hardcore track ever.)
Bouncy - Check out some of the mixes by JSPR that he posted on the forums. They're a nice mix of Bouncy and Rotterdam.
Breakcore - All the Children Are Dead - Venetian Snares
Respect dude you know a lot for a 14 year old are you really that old?
When i was forteen i could only roughly tell you what happyhardcore was nevermind the rest :)
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Dave Tee
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Posted - 2007/04/16 : 15:04:12
Has no one mentioned Trancecore?
That was probably one of the most important as it lead the way for the Uk happy stuff to turn into trance inspired hardcore.
Tunes like 'Slashing Funkids - Immagination' which was on 1 of the early Bonkers cds
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Gav001
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Posted - 2007/04/16 : 16:33:57
if you check out the link i posted its all in there and it gives u examples of all the genres!
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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2007/04/16 : 18:19:47
Bouncy Techno- Mostly from Scottland and Halland in the 1993-1996 era...
'A combination of techno staccato riffs with off-beat stabs at a fast tempo, this basic sounding hardcore music popularized by record producer Scott Brown'
There is a now a bebo 'band page' for Bouncy Techno: http://TartenTechno.bebo.com
Classics include:
Bass Reacation- Technophobia (1993)
Genaside- Mutations (1995)
Pheonix- Now whos in control (1995)
Bass X- Hardcore Disco (1993)
Q-tex- This fukka (1995)
Bouncy Techno also has links with the Old Skool Dutch Gabber scene
The big names were the likes of:
Scott Brown
Paul Elstak
Bass Generator
Bass X
Q-tex
Well known labels include:
Evolution
Jolly Rodger
Bass Genorator
Twisten Vinyl
Rotterdam Records
Ruffneck
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