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DJ_FunDaBounce
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 Posted - 2007/06/26 : 19:53:03
I agree on hardcore feeling stale.it's become somewhat formulaic.I mean how many tracks can be made between 165 and 180 bpm before we start repeating ourselves?
one thought that has passed my mind is what would happen if we all stopped making hardcore and just stepped back and play with whats already done?I mean,limit ourselves to exploring the past for a while.
"Those who don't learn from the past are destined to repeat it" someone said.
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2007/06/27 : 04:17:30
I think Hardcore is fine, as long as it's happy and fast, I am satisfied. I would like to hear chipmunk vocals again, and those fast little happy melodies, and that loud kick drum.
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2007/06/27 : 14:36:35
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I agree on hardcore feeling stale.it's become somewhat formulaic.I mean how many tracks can be made between 165 and 180 bpm before we start repeating ourselves?
one thought that has passed my mind is what would happen if we all stopped making hardcore and just stepped back and play with whats already done?I mean,limit ourselves to exploring the past for a while.
"Those who don't learn from the past are destined to repeat it" someone said.
Well said mate! That's exactly what we need to do! let's face it half the people nowadays, who call themselves ravers don't really know the history of the scene. The real raves!
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Mansy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2007/06/28 : 11:06:43
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Originally posted by Luna-C:
all of the current big names should quit (including me) lol...this would allow new people with new ideas to come through
I definetly agree with half of that luna, i dont think the big names should quite but they should allow the new talent to come through, iv heard alot of fresh talen out there, just to name a few:
DJ Chaos
DJ Barley
DJ Rocket Pimp
Kev Willow
Bounce
Ben Fable
P11 (aka Rave)
All these deserv a big shot in this scene as there productions are top class
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novaboy
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Posted - 2007/06/28 : 12:04:27
well, tbh, i think the scene is centering too much. i mean just in uk and some in usa you know. Even though Australia has its labels, there isnt enough scene. I really wanted to produce more hardcore when i finish school, which is my passion. But i think i may just have to do something more commercial. It sucks when no one co-operates.
But i do agree with what Chris said aswell, it's okay reaaally that its changing, but it needs to be varied in my opinion. Or i dont think it will last long tbh, it will probably get old really soon. That why we need different ideas from new producers. The children are the future =D
I daresay hardcore is on its rapid slump.
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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2007/06/29 : 07:08:37
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tru bass
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Posted - 2007/06/29 : 21:51:24
people always experiment
i just think we should take into account that this genre is so easily morphable!
a 4/4 beat and a complete different sub-genre is formed
i think we need a competition or something asking for the most "different" tracks to be produced and see how it goes!
everything changes eventually anyway so why not change it now
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The Doc
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Posted - 2007/06/30 : 00:44:29
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
I agree on hardcore feeling stale.it's become somewhat formulaic.I mean how many tracks can be made between 165 and 180 bpm before we start repeating ourselves?
one thought that has passed my mind is what would happen if we all stopped making hardcore and just stepped back and play with whats already done?I mean,limit ourselves to exploring the past for a while.
"Those who don't learn from the past are destined to repeat it" someone said.
I think the problem is the big DJ's from the past, who have now finally made a (bit) of money from Hardcore are scared! Its commercial, and won't stop for now, so they need the commercial side more than the music side! Good luck to them I say, a lot of them have been in the scene for 10-15 years and if they can finally make a bit of money from the hardcore scene, which has always been hard to do, I've got no problem with that! But to me whats changed in the last few years is the DJ alter ego! the days when one DJ/producer made tracks in different names, the tracks that were for the Joe Public raves, and then the tracks that meant something to them. Thats when you would get a track that was either great, different, original, stupid or "what the fu*k was that" type of thing! It seems now that they are gearing up to their next album release! which gives you boring, same heard it before shite!
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2007/07/04 : 04:52:47
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Originally posted by _nova_:
well, tbh, i think the scene is centering too much. i mean just in uk and some in usa you know. Even though Australia has its labels, there isnt enough scene.
Australia DOES have a scene.good stuff is produced over there plus you get big name djs spinning every now and then.Try coming down to Colombia...then you'll see what it means to not have a hardcore scene.
On the subject though,I feel many producers nowadays have their chops down in terms of quality.I feel my main worry is at times that the scene moves too fast for new people to stay on top of what's coming out.That and the fact that perhaps due to the fast pace of things the new stuff might not be so well thought out by many of those who produce it,hoping to make a quick buck on some acquired formula for making hardcore.
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novaboy
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Posted - 2007/07/04 : 08:51:19
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
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Originally posted by _nova_:
well, tbh, i think the scene is centering too much. i mean just in uk and some in usa you know. Even though Australia has its labels, there isnt enough scene.
Australia DOES have a scene.good stuff is produced over there plus you get big name djs spinning every now and then.Try coming down to Colombia...then you'll see what it means to not have a hardcore scene.
On the subject though,I feel many producers nowadays have their chops down in terms of quality.I feel my main worry is at times that the scene moves too fast for new people to stay on top of what's coming out.That and the fact that perhaps due to the fast pace of things the new stuff might not be so well thought out by many of those who produce it,hoping to make a quick buck on some acquired formula for making hardcore.
<3 JD.
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XenatR
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Posted - 2007/07/04 : 22:36:27
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I think Hardcore is fine, as long as it's happy and fast, I am satisfied. I would like to hear chipmunk vocals again, and those fast little happy melodies, and that loud kick drum.
agreed!! bring back the happyhardcore!!
Blaze! - Till The Day (Blizzard Mix)
Q-Tex - Power Of Love '97 (Digital Boy Italian Rave Mix)
Scott Brown - Super Sharp Beatz
JDS - Higher Love (Slipmatt Remix)
Critical Mass - Burnin' Love (DJ Weirdo & DJ Sim 173.683 Remix)
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Back 2 Bass - Beating Of My Heart
BRING 'EM BAAAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2007/07/05 : 04:36:02
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Originally posted by _nova_:
well, tbh, i think the scene is centering too much. i mean just in uk and some in usa you know. Even though Australia has its labels, there isnt enough scene. I really wanted to produce more hardcore when i finish school, which is my passion. But i think i may just have to do something more commercial. It sucks when no one co-operates.
But i do agree with what Chris said aswell, it's okay reaaally that its changing, but it needs to be varied in my opinion. Or i dont think it will last long tbh, it will probably get old really soon. That why we need different ideas from new producers. The children are the future =D
I daresay hardcore is on its rapid slump.
uummmm doesnt Australia have some of the biggest raves in the world? we get like 15,000 attendance at raves. That doesnt seem to me like Australia doesnt have much of a scene...
Why do you think youll have to do something more commercial? to make money? Well thats what you get with an UNDERGROUND scene. You cant make money AND have an underground scene, it doesnt work like that.
What i want to know is, take a look at a punk rock band. Same instruments all the time, same lyrics, same structure.... Hardcore is more varied than that and after about 7 years of new skool, it needs to change? Why? If you change a genre every time one group of people gets sick of it, how are there ever going to be any new people to the scene? Instead of looking to change hardcore, why dont the people who think its stale explor other genres? Changing hardcore would make it not hardcore any more. Why make a new genre? Theres PLENTY of dance genres out there already.
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2007/07/05 : 08:17:13
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Changing hardcore would make it not hardcore any more. Why make a new genre?
The definition of hardcore has changed alot over the years dude, wouldn't be the first time thats happened.
But what would most likely happen, i think in these days, is a label will create another off-shoot of hardcore.
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Fluffbomb
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Posted - 2007/07/05 : 12:43:16
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Changing hardcore would make it not hardcore any more. Why make a new genre?
By your own definition then current Hardcore isn't hardcore anymore. Check out any '90-'93 Hardcore track or even '93-'95 Happycore and it sounds bugger all like any mainstream Hardcore being produced today!
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2007/07/05 : 12:55:52
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Changing hardcore would make it not hardcore any more. Why make a new genre?
By your own definition then current Hardcore isn't hardcore anymore. Check out any '90-'93 Hardcore track or even '93-'95 Happycore and it sounds bugger all like any mainstream Hardcore being produced today!
old skool/nu skool?
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