| Author |
Thread |
|
NeXuS
Advanced Member
United States
1,627 posts
Joined: Nov, 2004
81 hardcore releases
|
 Posted - 2007/06/25 : 23:15:25
"Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11 Report claims hit the Pentagon. Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction, approach, and altitude. The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor. This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the buillding."
View source here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20070621/bs_prweb/prweb534642_1
__________________________________
We're gonna start a new revolution...
One that will rock and roll your senses
Alert moderator 
|
dee_licious
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
513 posts
Joined: Oct, 2006
|
Posted - 2007/06/25 : 23:35:58
Interesting......
__________________________________
We all wanna be hardcore....
Alert moderator
|
Meph751
Advanced Member
United States
1,488 posts
Joined: Dec, 2005
|
Posted - 2007/06/25 : 23:43:18
edit because i am angry and this post was very belligerent 
__________________________________
Buy my records! :)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=Meph
Alert moderator
Edited by - Meph751 on 2007/06/25 23:50:54 |
NeXuS
Advanced Member
United States
1,627 posts
Joined: Nov, 2004
81 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2007/06/25 : 23:51:10
The only thing this documentation is proving is that NO boeing 757 ever hit the pentagon which is what the 911 commission stated to be what happened.
Nothing yet on WHAT hit the pentagon, just not a 757.
__________________________________
We're gonna start a new revolution...
One that will rock and roll your senses
Alert moderator
Edited by - NeXuS on 2007/06/25 23:52:57 |
Meph751
Advanced Member
United States
1,488 posts
Joined: Dec, 2005
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 00:01:46
i assume you're replying to the post i edited; yea that's why i edited it. i was venting because i'd had a similar discussion with a kid i know a while back and he kept insisting that the US government fired a cruise missile into the pentagon, and explained to me how the world trade center was not attacked by terrorists, etc. i apologize if you were offended by that post, that wasn't my intent.
though for the record, i still don't buy into it. 
__________________________________
Buy my records! :)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=Meph
Alert moderator
Edited by - Meph751 on 2007/06/26 00:02:07 |
DarrenJ
Advanced Member
Australia
2,626 posts
Joined: Jul, 2003
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 07:29:52
I heard a fireman did kyokushin karate, and chopped the support beam, which made the building collapse
__________________________________
☻hardcore
Alert moderator
|
Da Cunney Bugz
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,222 posts
Joined: Oct, 2005
25 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 08:00:28
747?
__________________________________
GaMMeR WoTs It
GaMMeR Do Do
GaMMeR GaH GaH
*I LOVE YOU*
Alert moderator
|
whispering
Moderator
Finland
8,453 posts
Joined: Nov, 2002
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 08:44:08
This is probably the type of conspiracy theories Meph751 ment, but i think it raises intresting questions:
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf
Note, a lot of stuff on that are taken out of context. But if its actually now true that it wasnt 747 then that doesnt sound so much as a conspiracy theory anymore.
Alert moderator
Edited by - whispering on 2007/06/26 08:50:46 |
Hard2Get
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
12,837 posts
Joined: Jun, 2001
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 09:32:48
quote:
Originally posted by DarrenJ:
I heard a fireman did kyokushin karate, and chopped the support beam, which made the building collapse
I heard it was indeed Chuck Norris!
Alert moderator
|
charlieee
Advanced Member
Australia
1,422 posts
Joined: Dec, 2005
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 09:50:51
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by DarrenJ:
I heard a fireman did kyokushin karate, and chopped the support beam, which made the building collapse
I heard it was indeed Chuck Norris!
hahaha Chuck Norris.
i find dats find bull plot
__________________________________
iv got a purple monkey dishwasher do u?
Alert moderator
|
Stony McTony
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
534 posts
Joined: May, 2004
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 16:37:27
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by DarrenJ:
I heard a fireman did kyokushin karate, and chopped the support beam, which made the building collapse
I heard it was indeed Chuck Norris!
It's true. Chuck had heard that morning that they were going to take 'Walker Texas Ranger' off T.V. Knowing that the networks wouldn't listen he had to go for the people he knew would take notice, the government. Unfortanately you're claim that he karate chopped the pentagon seems to be false as many eyewitness report a roundhouse kick flying through the walls seconds before the incident. But as a result his gamble payed off, you can still catch Chuck Norris Mondays to Fridays on Bravo. That man knows how to make himself heard.
__________________________________
Theres nothing wrong with the boat those big holes help keep our feet cool.
Alert moderator
|
Simon
Advanced Member
Belgium
5,001 posts
Joined: Dec, 2001
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 18:01:08
Chuck Norris......No one messes with him, he always gets his own way!
__________________________________
"...The Outsider"
Alert moderator
|
Meph751
Advanced Member
United States
1,488 posts
Joined: Dec, 2005
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 18:19:01
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
Note, a lot of stuff on that are taken out of context. But if its actually now true that it wasnt 747 then that doesnt sound so much as a conspiracy theory anymore.
anyone can form a committee and come to whatever conclusion they wish, the fact still remains that american airlines flight 77 is gone, the people on board are all gone, and the families of those people that boarded the flight have lost loved ones. try telling them that flight 77 did not hit the pentagon. they want you to think what provides support to their goals/point of view; whether they are right or wrong, you can't trust them just because they've formed some scholarly committee.
__________________________________
Buy my records! :)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=Meph
Alert moderator
|
Underloop
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,895 posts
Joined: Mar, 2002
91 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2007/06/26 : 23:24:08
black boxes can be not 100% accurately calibrated - fact.
These things are usually aimed at recording flight heights in 1000s of feet, not approx 100feet. Accuracy is bound not to be great. Also, bear in mind the environments these things are subjected to - pressure changes, temperature changes etc. Errors of this size are no big deal for regular use.
__________________________________
"We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing."
- George Bernard Shaw
Alert moderator
|
NeXuS
Advanced Member
United States
1,627 posts
Joined: Nov, 2004
81 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2007/06/27 : 00:12:52
Although I cant say for sure, I am pretty sure while working with the data "scholors" would calculate in the error margin before they would make a statement saying it would be impossible for it to hit the pentagon. I mean its pretty bold.
When in the right circumstances the possiblities are endless when you think about what happened to that flight and everyone on board. No one is trusting them just because they are labeled as a comittee.
Here are a few points of arguments which they yse to contradict what the official report has said:
(1) The hit point at the Pentagon was too small to accommodate a 100-ton airliner with a 125-foot wingspan and a tail that stands 44 feet above the ground; the kind and quantity of debris was wrong for a Boeing 757: there were no wings, no fuselage, no seats, no bodies, no luggage, no tail! Not even the engines were recovered, and they are practically indestructible.
(2) Of an estimate 84 videotapes of the crash, the three that have been released by the Pentagon do not show a Boeing 757 hitting the building, as even Bill O'Reilly admitted when one was shown on "The Factor". At 155 feet, the plane was more than twice as long as the 77-foot Pentagon is high and should have been visible. There are indications of a much smaller plane, but not a Boeing 757.
(3) Indeed, the aerodynamics of flight would have made the official trajectory--flying more than 500 mph barely above ground level--physically impossible, because of the accumulation of a massive pocket of compressed gas (air) beneath the fuselage; and if it had come it at an angle instead, it would have created a massive crater; but there is no crater and the official trajectory is impossible.
(4) Flying low enough to impact with the ground floor would have meant that the enormous engines were plowing the ground and creating massive furrows; but there are no massive furrows. The smooth, unblemished surface of the Pentagon lawn thus stands as a "smoking gun" proving the official trajectory cannot be sustained.
__________________________________
We're gonna start a new revolution...
One that will rock and roll your senses
Alert moderator
|
Lilley
Advanced Member
Australia
3,740 posts
Joined: Jul, 2006
|
Posted - 2007/06/27 : 04:46:06
they are some good points. there is still the problem of the mysterious flight 77. i seriously doubt it got sucked into a time warp and is gona reappear in 50 or so years. i don't like government withholding information from the public, but as meph said, the people on the flight are gone, and i feel that the families of those on the flight would rest much easier knowing when and how they died, if they are dead (probable). so i dont really think it was too tactful of the commitee to release the findings before solving the mystery of flight 77, and saying to the families of those on the flight "we dont know how or where they died".
__________________________________
nearly in line....
.....strange continuity problems
Alert moderator
|
Printer friendly
