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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  15:42:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage  Reply with quote

^^^This is the generally the good sign. It's used in Wiccan/Pagan practices to symbolize the combined elements. (correct me if I'm wrong)


^^^This is the satanic symbol. This is the one you need to be worried about.

It's all based on whether the star point is pointed up, or pointed down.


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Edited by - warped_candykid on 2007/11/21 15:42:41
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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  15:46:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
on a spinning piece of vinyl, it's sometimes both . and like i said, it wasn't just pentagrams... other stuff too. i just wanted to know everyone else's opinion on it.

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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  16:04:56  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
Whether this 'dark' stuff is used deliberately or not who knows?

I reckon it's not good to use anything in ignorance just because it might look cool.

It's said that ignorance is bliss

but sometimes I'm not so sure....


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Vitalism
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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  17:26:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
good point.



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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  21:34:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lilley's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:

^^^This is the generally the good sign. It's used in Wiccan/Pagan practices to symbolize the combined elements. (correct me if I'm wrong)


^^^This is the satanic symbol. This is the one you need to be worried about.

It's all based on whether the star point is pointed up, or pointed down.



hmm. essentially all signs/symbols that are taken to be 'evil' were originally pagan symbols. Also a lot of the christian festivals we celebrate were pagan festivals. back in the day, the church used the festivals for their own purposes, and gave them a meaning that the rest of the world could understand, not just some tribe. im fairly sure scholars think jesus died roughly middle febuary or march cant remember which.

but yeh thats more or less the only thing in the da vinci code that was accurate


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Edited by - Lilley on 2007/11/21 21:37:29
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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  22:07:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
'Jesus said get down on your hands and knees and prey for forgivness, Saton has corrupted your mind with his evil temptations, temptaions, temptaions...' Baba Nataion: Jesus Words, VHU 001, 1995. One of the greatest Old Skool Gabber tracks I have had the pleasure of listening to! I dont think their os much evil in Hardcore! Its all good and fun to me, even Old Skool Gabber!

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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  22:21:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
"in this life we can all be free"

Scary Stuff.


quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:

^^^This is the satanic symbol. This is the one you need to be worried about.




No you don't.


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Vitalism
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Posted - 2007/11/21 :  23:33:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
no one was talking about scary anything last time i checked...

and it was more so the line from that song coupled the lovely picture on the label of burningly hot flames that i was getting at. that line on it's own doesn't have much relevance to anything.


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Posted - 2007/11/22 :  01:03:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meph751's homepage  Reply with quote
i'm not to worried about al storm or styles sacrificing a goat in the name of satan.

angerfist... not so sure about those guys!

in all seriousness though, i would be incredibly surprised if ANY hardcore artist (uk, dutch, italian, whatever) used the imagery you're talking about to actually represent devil worship.


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Posted - 2007/11/22 :  04:09:45  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Audio X's homepage  Reply with quote
Evil is relative anyway. Christianity is probably considered evil to some people.



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Posted - 2007/11/22 :  05:43:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
everything is relative. lets not get into the philosophical end of things.



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quote:
Originally posted by Audio X:
Evil is relative anyway. Christianity is probably considered evil to some people.



Without a doubt.


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Posted - 2007/11/22 :  11:01:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lilley's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by alex_e:
everything is relative



bahahahaha


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Posted - 2007/11/22 :  12:59:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
.......?

i think i'm missing something here, is there an explanation that follows that bhahahaha?

good is relative, evil is relative... what is perceived as one thing to by someone can be something completely different to the next. i don't see what's funny about that statement.


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Posted - 2007/11/22 :  14:17:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
Many hardcore producers are uneducated...
Consequently, many don't know the meaning of the samples/images they use in their tunes/records.

I don't think you should read into any of this - the producers in question simply don't understand or think "it's cool" to use such imagery.

To be honest, I would use weird samples without thinking twice about it because I don't believe in what you're describing.


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