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xpinkyogurtx
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 Posted - 2008/03/17 : 22:12:59
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
Eat healthier products.
Are you sure you can technically get addicted to chocolate? You don't get addicted to coffee but caffeine. Is cocoa techniclly a drug or is it just people with low self-esteem that get the buzz from the sugar and use addiction as an excuse?
I think it;'s just a psychological addiction, your body doesn't actually become dependent on it...
yea, and of course our taste buds practically control us
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 00:19:53
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
Eat healthier products.
Are you sure you can technically get addicted to chocolate? You don't get addicted to coffee but caffeine. Is cocoa techniclly a drug or is it just people with low self-esteem that get the buzz from the sugar and use addiction as an excuse?
I think it;'s just a psychological addiction, your body doesn't actually become dependent on it...
Well all adicitons are psychological surely, not like the body needs heroin/crack/nicotine. They're detrimental to the health of the body so the it wouldn't be yearning for them to harm it.
I used to smoke for 2 years from when I was 16. Never found it hard at all to stop, just gave up cold turkey and never lapsed and never get yearnings for one.
Research though says peoples suceptions to eating is programmed into our DNA from birth, basically almost programming you to have a high appetite and essentially become fat from birth. Even sexual preferences including gender and even age is inbuilt to our DNA. Kinda scary to think paedophile's are created with that defect from birth. Maybe even people's susceptions to different drugs are inbuilt. I do always find it incredibly hard whenever I go into the kitchen not to walk out without some sort of snack or maybe that's more to do with my past memories and feelings.
I just realised I've gone from a topic slandering the price of chocolate bars to raising the philosophical question of nature vs. nurture. Staying on topic obviously isn't my strong point.
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chappy_hardcore
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 13:38:36
It aint just choccy either, i remember when cans of coke were like 30 - 40p
I remember getting a Mars bar for 35p from a vender!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 14:14:04
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
Eat healthier products.
Are you sure you can technically get addicted to chocolate? You don't get addicted to coffee but caffeine. Is cocoa techniclly a drug or is it just people with low self-esteem that get the buzz from the sugar and use addiction as an excuse?
I think it;'s just a psychological addiction, your body doesn't actually become dependent on it...
Well all adicitons are psychological surely, not like the body needs heroin/crack/nicotine. They're detrimental to the health of the body so the it wouldn't be yearning for them to harm it.
I used to smoke for 2 years from when I was 16. Never found it hard at all to stop, just gave up cold turkey and never lapsed and never get yearnings for one.
Research though says peoples suceptions to eating is programmed into our DNA from birth, basically almost programming you to have a high appetite and essentially become fat from birth. Even sexual preferences including gender and even age is inbuilt to our DNA. Kinda scary to think paedophile's are created with that defect from birth. Maybe even people's susceptions to different drugs are inbuilt. I do always find it incredibly hard whenever I go into the kitchen not to walk out without some sort of snack or maybe that's more to do with my past memories and feelings.
I just realised I've gone from a topic slandering the price of chocolate bars to raising the philosophical question of nature vs. nurture. Staying on topic obviously isn't my strong point.
Most drugs are not physically addictive, but heroin and alcohol are for sure :P
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 14:15:21
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Originally posted by chappy_hardcore:
It aint just choccy either, i remember when cans of coke were like 30 - 40p
I remember getting a Mars bar for 35p from a vender!
There is a shop local to me that sells cans of Cola for 27p; absolute bargain!
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kathryn
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 15:51:28
I am going on a chocolate bar strike cos i have been eating to many and my skins really suffering
Thinking of swapping for grapes.
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ruroken
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 16:58:57
You guys are gonna get fat (and broke) from eating too much candy. Try some good old celery or carrots. Yummmmmmmmmmy.
On a serious note if you can get addicted to caffeine then you can get addicted to chocolate, because chocolate contains caffeine. You can also become addicted to sugar which is plentiful in chocolate bars.
Prices in the US have been pretty high for a while, at least in vending machines. I've seen over a buck. Glad I don't really buy candy any more, I'd be broke.
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 17:33:49
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Most drugs are not physically addictive, but heroin and alcohol are for sure :P
Never heard an alcoholic say his addiction is physical. Or any drug addict to be honest.
On topic, use the rising prices as an incentive to start eating healthier. Stop filling your faces with so much unhealthy stuff.
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ruroken
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 18:36:11
Nah there are certain addictions that are physical, smoking for example. I'm not sure exactly how they work, but it's probably how your body reacts to the chemicals.
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jenks
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 20:55:43
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
Eat healthier products.
Are you sure you can technically get addicted to chocolate? You don't get addicted to coffee but caffeine. Is cocoa techniclly a drug or is it just people with low self-esteem that get the buzz from the sugar and use addiction as an excuse?
I think it;'s just a psychological addiction, your body doesn't actually become dependent on it...
Well all adicitons are psychological surely, not like the body needs heroin/crack/nicotine. They're detrimental to the health of the body so the it wouldn't be yearning for them to harm it.
I used to smoke for 2 years from when I was 16. Never found it hard at all to stop, just gave up cold turkey and never lapsed and never get yearnings for one.
Research though says peoples suceptions to eating is programmed into our DNA from birth, basically almost programming you to have a high appetite and essentially become fat from birth. Even sexual preferences including gender and even age is inbuilt to our DNA. Kinda scary to think paedophile's are created with that defect from birth. Maybe even people's susceptions to different drugs are inbuilt. I do always find it incredibly hard whenever I go into the kitchen not to walk out without some sort of snack or maybe that's more to do with my past memories and feelings.
I just realised I've gone from a topic slandering the price of chocolate bars to raising the philosophical question of nature vs. nurture. Staying on topic obviously isn't my strong point.
Your body starts to rely on it, and can't function properly without it.
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Most drugs are not physically addictive, but heroin and alcohol are for sure :P
Never heard an alcoholic say his addiction is physical. Or any drug addict to be honest.
Of course they do, why do you think it's so hard for them to quit? Because they feel like shit and their body is screaming out for it.
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 01:11:32
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Of course they do, why do you think it's so hard for them to quit? Because they feel like shit and their body is screaming out for it.
They get the sensation that they need it to function when in actual fact it's the opposite. That would make it psychological as it's your mind convincing you to do something completely against the bodies needs.
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SPOOX
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 03:09:13
Just bought my kids & nieces their easter eggs & thought that they were quite cheap this year.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 04:52:57
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
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Originally posted by jenks:
Of course they do, why do you think it's so hard for them to quit? Because they feel like shit and their body is screaming out for it.
They get the sensation that they need it to function when in actual fact it's the opposite. That would make it psychological as it's your mind convincing you to do something completely against the bodies needs.
In terms of physical addiction, it occurs when the body gets so used to a drug functioning within its system that your body adapts and accepts the new drug as a normal function. When the body is suddently subjected to no form of this drug, the central nervous system goes haywire. Digestion, concentration, mood, appetite and normal thinking are all things that are affected by a physical addiction.
Psychological addiction is where you feel like you need it, but your body's central nervous system wont go crazy if you dont have it. Its a want, not a need. But you really REALLY want it.
Im sorry, but you're truly naive to think that an alcoholic can "convince" themselves that they don't need alcohol and all that pain goes away. Have you ever dealt with a family member who is an alcoholic, or maybe something rougher like methamphetamine? I can guarantee you, it definitely is a physical thing. Ive seen people vomit non-stop, break out into cold swears, shake, foam at the mouth and even be unable to control their bowel movements because of the lack of the drug they're body has become addicted to (in the case of methamphetamine)
Obviously drugs that tax your body will have more adverse reactions. Cigarettes arent as bad as ice for example.
In saying that, not all drugs have a physically addictive properties; but nicotine and caffeine are two drugs that can cause your body to be physically addicted.
In terms of getting addicted to chocolate itself, well that'd be a hybrid of physical and mental addiction along with some form of mental association with chocolate.
You can become physically addicted to caffeine, but i DONT KNOW if there is enough caffeine in chocolate to make you addicted to it. Sure if you ate enough on a regular basis every day then it could happen - but having to have that fix of caffeine through chocolate would be a mental association. Its like when you quit smoking - ive quit twice (and back to smoking again unfortnately) and every time i quit i found it hardest to abstain from cigarettes when i was drinking alcohol, drinking coffee and driving. Thats because of the mental association my brain makes with smoking to those actions.
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jenks
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 06:25:10
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
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Originally posted by jenks:
Of course they do, why do you think it's so hard for them to quit? Because they feel like shit and their body is screaming out for it.
They get the sensation that they need it to function when in actual fact it's the opposite. That would make it psychological as it's your mind convincing you to do something completely against the bodies needs.
You're not listening. Your body begins to depend on the drug you're addicted to, it can't work anymore properly with out it, your brain gets so used to the drug that it will rely on it being in your system for almost any rewarding experience. Withdrawal symptoms are a result of physical dependency, a psychological addiction can't make you feel physically ill, it just makes you crave things.
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