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DJ PS PROJECT
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 Posted - 2008/03/18 : 09:49:53
Hey guys,
was just wondering if any1 no's wat type of vst's the likes of darren styles or squad-e (hypasoinc) use.
i think hypasonic use bass-station but im not to sure
thanks
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Torpex
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 10:04:44
The current euro sound (which is also the sound of mainstream and some non-mainstream UK hardcore) relies heavily on Access Virus - a great all-around hardware synth. The older Roland JP-8000/8080 is quite popular as well.
You can get pretty much the same sound with vst romplers like reFX Nexus (most of its patches are from Virus anyway) and good analogue-modelled vst synths like V-Station, z3ta+ or Korg Legacy. Having (and knowing how to use) decent fx plugins - filtering, distortion, warming etc. - wouldn't hurt.
Remember that even if you have exactly the same tools and sounds as your fav producers have, it won't sound good enough unless you learn how to properly use what you've got... Like they had to. :)
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Synesthesia
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Posted - 2008/03/18 : 10:38:38
You pretty much covered it Torpex, the most important thing is not which vst's you have but how you use them. I know Styles definitely uses Nexus, some of his recent stuff sounds like a demo showreel for the thing.
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DJ PS PROJECT
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 08:57:55
yea i no how to get a similer soundin riff
but i wana no wat they use 4 der basslines and pads (strings)
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Torpex
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 09:07:30
Basslines are mostly samples (sometimes layered and/or beefed up with synths).
Pads - anything goes. Virus is very capable here, so are the virtual analogue synths... Romplers like Spectrasonics Atmosphere come in handy as well.
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DJ PS PROJECT
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 09:40:13
yea i hav atmosphere
i like zeta as well
i have 1000z of vengence samples too haha
see on a build up wat do u think is better
drum roll wif an up lifter and the a crash on to a downlifter
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drum roll wif da kick on it and then a crash on2 the break
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Torpex
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 09:50:36
Mate, it's a totally pointless question. It all depends on the tune. It's not a freakin assembly line, it's a CREATIVE process. ;)
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DJ PS PROJECT
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 10:50:48
so wat ur sayin is u dnt no :)
u say itz not an asembly line
if u no wat ur talkin about den obiviously u no u hav to put everythin in raw even b4 u layer and side chain everythin
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 11:15:42
Errr mate. You're basically asking "from this choice of two build-ups, which do you prefer to use in your tunes?" What has that got to do with layering and side chaining?
A build-up should be specific to the tune... Whatever goes.
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DJ PS PROJECT
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 11:21:33
i would side chain alot of things and do other things
got a class wee tip from chris henry from ultrabeat on how to make a few sound that ya hav layered to sound more like they r 1 sample
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JAKAZiD
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 11:26:12
The guy voluntarily answered a question for you; there's no need to mock his intelligence with comments like 'u obviusly dnt no den'!
And he's right anyway; different tracks necessitate different kinds of builds. It's all up to the producer to decide what works best for the track. If everyone making hardcore stuck religiously to a rulebook, it would become a pretty formulaic genre.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 11:39:08
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Originally posted by DJ PS PROJECT:
i would side chain alot of things and do other things
got a class wee tip from chris henry from ultrabeat on how to make a few sound that ya hav layered to sound more like they r 1 sample
That really didn't answer my question.
You would bring a load of samples together using standard compression and effective EQ'ing, not side-chaining. Side-chaining is used to give two sounds that would usually interfere with each other (say bass and kick) their own space. That's my understanding anyway...
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Torpex
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 11:57:28
The original question was:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ PS PROJECT:
see on a build up wat do u think is better
drum roll wif an up lifter and the a crash on to a downlifter
or
drum roll wif da kick on it and then a crash on2 the break
I answer and you follow up with:
quote:
if u no wat ur talkin about den obiviously u no u hav to put everythin in raw even b4 u layer and side chain everythin
Sorry but... What? What does it have to do with different types of snare rolls? o.O
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Orbit1
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 12:12:44
quote:
Originally posted by Torpex:
Sorry but... What? What does it have to do with different types of snare rolls? o.O
Buzzwords, buzzwords and more buzzwords!!!
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 12:21:11
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Originally posted by Orbit1:
quote:
Originally posted by Torpex:
Sorry but... What? What does it have to do with different types of snare rolls? o.O
Buzzwords, buzzwords and more buzzwords!!!
:D Sounds about right.
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DJ PS PROJECT
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Posted - 2008/03/19 : 12:24:34
i no side chaining is used for brinin the likes of the kick threw the bassline and sound more cleared
but on a finished product after everythin has bein done and mastered if ya done the side chaining properly it would make the tune sound more better compared to 1 wif poorly side chainin in it
there is alot of ways ya can side chain stuff
yes i no wat its main purpose is but u can use it in a lot of different wats for various samples
anywayz da weather over ere is fkin mad lol
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